"Green" policies are destroying this country

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122588595#Comment_122588595

No

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122588267#Comment_122588267

So first post you seem to have no idea about pesticides been used and next post you claim to know about pesticides been used? doesn't add up does it

Tillage I guess you refer to making silage/hay which is then fed to cattle over the winter. Also it's circa 5 days from memory after spraying and you can let livestock onto it

In terms of food production, we produce more food than we actually eat in the World. The waste is huge.

In terms of Woodies,the stuff in Woodies is extremely watered down compared to argi pesticides. Hence why you need a license and herd numbers etc to buy the stuff farmers use.

I sent link to confirm pesticides are used and additivies and perservatives are used in meat. Can you point to the store you claimed to buy meat without perservatives?

From the link:

What is an additive?

 An additive is a substance added to food for a specific technological function. For example:

• to preserve a food and increase its shelf-life - preservative

Anyway I made my point, as I said complaining about vegan or vegatrian diets is blinkered when you see what is included with meats/etc

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122588732#Comment_122588732

So what are you advocating other than a meat free diet of vegetables grown without the use of fertiliser, herbicides or pesticides ?

Other than that I cannot see what point you are attempting to make.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122588830#Comment_122588830

I didn't think you would

To repeat from the original post

Saying one type of food eaten by vegan is worse than another type of food shows a lack of knowledge on modern farming

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122588884#Comment_122588884

If you somehow believe you could feed the world on vegan produce without fertiliser, pesticides or herbicides then your knowledge of farming is very limited. Sri Lanka tried it and it was an abject failure.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122589178#Comment_122589178

I never posted any of that

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122589347#Comment_122589347

To have any kind of knowledge on farming, rather than rambling on about fertilisers, herbicides and pesticides, then it would perhaps have been a good idea to first familiarise yourself with what happened in real terms when an attempt was made to raise farm produce without them.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122589603#Comment_122589603

I wouldn't make assumption about the knowledge of strangers on the web about topics.

So far you have been caught out numerous times lecturing people on this thread when clearly you haven't the first clue on the topic

The imaginary comments you accused me of posting is odd to say the least, maybe time to walk away from the device for a while

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122589795#Comment_122589795

It was just a suggestion, as your knowledge from your posts as to what the real world results are farming without using fertiliser, herbicide or pesticide appeared to be very sketchy.

If you want to ignore that in your usual belligerent manner it`s no skin off my nose.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122589842#Comment_122589842

You lied about what I posted

You then made comments about my knowledge on farming when clearly you have no idea yourself

Now you start making personal comments

I have no interest in responding to this nonsense anymore so stop quoting me because you clearly have absolutely nothing of interest to add

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122588789#Comment_122588789

It appears I know a hell of a lot more about this than you. Proof? This line

Tillage I guess you refer to making silage/hay which is then fed to cattle over the winter. 

You haven't a scooby about agriculture and it's ways in this country. Not to mention any sprays used where, by who, and when.

Links showing stuff can be used doesn't mean stuff is used. I buy my beef from the butcher, who kills his own animals. Chicken comes from Dunnes. Usually their own brand stuff - https://www.dunnesstoresgrocery.com/sm/delivery/rsid/258/product/dunnes-stores-irish-chicken-breast-fillets-630g-id-100222327.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122590343#Comment_122590343

AS I said, it was just a suggestion that before rambling on about fertilisers pesticides and herbicides it might have been an idea to do a bit of research first as to what happens in the real world without them. If you are choosing to not inform yourself of that then that is up to you, so no point in attempting to have any discussion with you on the subject.

Still waiting on those costing for that offshore wind /hydrogen plan from you. No rush, but it has been some considerable time now.

ginger22

Looks like our 2 resident vegan posters don't know much about how their food is produced. Take the humble potato for example. First it gets a weed spray then 4 or 5 fungicide sprays for blight, then the wire worms, slugs, leatherjackets, and caterpillars have to be taken care of and finally a spray to burn off the stalks before harvest and then look at the other vegetables, carrots, parsnips, cabbage, cauliflower, sprouts as the supermarkets wont take them if they have any blemish they cant allow any little critters to have a nibble, so multiple sprays as well. Then on the other hand look at our beef produced off grassland that probably hasn't seen a sprayer in living memory and even our intensive dairy as most grass will be reseeded only once every 10 to 20 years, so only 2 sprays then, one to kill off the old sward and one to get the weeds after emergence. Then they bring up the old chestnut about grain imported from outside the EU that has been genetically modified, if anything it is probably better than EU grown grain as the genetic modification makes it resistant to many pests and diseases so doesn't need as many sprays. My advice would be to eat lots of dairy as your bones need the calcium and go to you local butcher to get the best quality naturally produced un adulterated beef and lamb and keep away from the processed Sh,,e