"Green" policies are destroying this country

Banana Republic 1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118533355#Comment_118533355

I know why you use the term #gaslight.

Banana Republic 1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118533510#Comment_118533510

All of it, but rather then tackle the whole pink elephant !

_Kaiser_

Eamon Ryan on Pat Kenny talking about his plan for reclaiming the streets of inner city Dublin (Gardiner St, around Busaras and the Customs House) while the traffic levels are at historically low levels to create attractive living spaces for retailers and people to move back into the city etc...

The man hasn't a bloody clue..

- Employers are starting to call staff back into offices so traffic levels are increasing rapidly and have been for months. The Government's new WFH regulations have already been shot down as largely pointless and ineffective as the employer retains all the power to refuse it

- He clearly hasn't a notion of the cost of renting/buying an apartment in that area, never mind the antisocial issues around those streets

- His great plan would dramatically worsen not just private traffic but all the buses and Luas trams passing through or terminating at Connolly or Busaras.

Letting this deluded idealist on the airwaves does far more damage to any "Green" agenda than anyone else could do. This is the same guy who has talked about reintroducing wolves to the countryside and people having window boxes to grow food - he's probably one of the most sincere politicians and Green members in fairness to him, but he lives in his own little fantasy world with no concept of reality.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118533995#Comment_118533995

Well even when Eamon Ryan, the chief architect of misery on all of Ireland (especially rural Ireland), is gone after the next elections, councils will continue to take space away from cars to make places more suitable to pedestrians and cyclists, and just to make places more pleasant. This is happening all over Europe and even in car centric Britain. What's deluded is giving the entire city over to private cars over the course of the 20th century, we need to take it back.

SomeGuyCalledMi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118533995#Comment_118533995

Clean air and safe streets would be nice. But you are right, anti-social behavior is a major problem.

I live in a small town near Dublin and there is no way I would let my kids cycle to school which is only a 2km away. Almost no cycle paths. Angry drivers. Speed limits ignored.

Ryans point that other cities can achieve this is a fair one though. Are the irish too dumb to even try?

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118534090#Comment_118534090

The anti-everything brigade say we can't make any changes until we have a metro built and world class public transport - we're never going to have either of those so do we just allow more and more traffic and cars in the meantime or try and encourage more walking and cycling?

Chips Lovell

Although much maligned, one impact of gentrification is that it correlates with lower petty crime rates.

Having said that, the people who tend to bang on the most about inner city or urban crime are those who'd turn their nose up at living in the city not matter what the crime rate.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118534114#Comment_118534114

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118524819#Comment_118524819

A thousand? More like millions.

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118534114#Comment_118534114

So no wheelchair users or people with limited mobility allowed in the Green Utopia?

The xenophobia and a hatred of the disabled, there was another vegetarian with similar views a while back, wee short dude with a funny moustache,shouted a lot, should Poland be concerned?

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536464#Comment_118536464

Yeah the old pretending to give a f**k about the disabled trick, all you car-ists are the same.

iColdFusion

Turns out Russia and China are investing heavily in maintaining climate change as it has opened up new arctic shipping routes for goods and especially oil, Russia's goal is to ship 100 million tons of oil along it by 2030 and here we are arguing about moving parking spaces away from houses 🙄

https://youtu.be/pvy9usF7ohE

Mecanudo

Meanwhile in Germany (whistles)

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-much-does-germany-need-russian-gas-2022-01-20/

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536464#Comment_118536464

This is so dumb it nearly deserves a reward.

How tf did you make the leap from that post to Hitler? Had you the second paragraph written in a draft and just had to use it somewhere?

tom1ie

Are the Green Party agains an LNG terminal being built in Ireland or just the importation of fracking gas in LNG form?

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536658#Comment_118536658

Investing heavily in maintaining climate change...

LOL we need to talk about greens and their God syndrome problem.

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118540889#Comment_118540889

An environment minister that can't be trusted with anything sharper than a butterknife, no quality control on who becomes a politician,

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538488#Comment_118538488

Have you read any of Theo's posts?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/time-to-reassess-what-is-sufficient-for-a-good-life-1.4786162

The model of economic growth must change from one that does not include the cost of environmental and social damage to one that does

cnocbui

People who seriously advocate mass unemployment, scare the hell out of me.

Banana Republic 1

Getting a nuclear plant built here in 10 years is just fantasy. I’m not against nuclear my concern in relation to this country is with the regulation or lack there off. Ireland would be a great country if they got rid of its anti enforcement laws. They can’t spec a printer right for the dail.

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118546823#Comment_118546823

It usually doesn't effect them, there's a sadistic streak in your common or garden Green,

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118546878#Comment_118546878

They are probably public sector workers who believe the goverrnment will forever be able to forego economic relaities and never sack them. Jobs for lifers.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118546860#Comment_118546860

Agreed 10 years is just to sort out planning and battle the NIMBYs. The country is likely to settle on Small Nuclear Power Reactors (SMRs) on the 2030s from the likes of NuScale Power. I expect to see moves in this direction by the end of this decade. The country already gets nuclear power from the neighbours and is currently running an extension cord to France, there are several issues with this not least that France already supplies its neighbours with power and the continental European grid has has several near misses in recent years as the thermal base-load generators have been removed. Germany expects to close it's last 3 nuclear generators this year. The point being there will not be enough power when the inevitable "Dunkelflaute" i.e dark doldrums occur, these are characterised by conditions of low wind and no solar lasting weeks and often in Winter. There are no reserves and this months electricity bills are just the opening salvo in an energy crisis that is with us for the rest of this decade.

Shannon LNG to seek approval to build €650m gas plant in Kerry

Shannon LNG will submit its new application against a background of growing concerns about the security of future electricity supplies.

Demand is rising, but several electricity plants face closure in coming years. Meanwhile, Ireland will have to import 90 per cent of its natural gas via a pipeline from Scotland by the end of the decade.

Organisations including State-owned Gas Networks Ireland say the country will need alternative sources of the fuel, vital to electricity generation, including potentially an LNG plant.

This is why Moneypoint coal plant will not be closed this decade, doing so ensures the inevitable power shortages arrive sooner and we end up like South Africa where load shedding is frequent. A grid with large amounts of random energy generation cannot remain stable without gas. Batteries can only be used to manage sudden dips in random generation and I'm sceptical of the new green hydrogen lark for the same reason random generation is not suitable to run an industrial process and deliver an economic yield.

RandomViewer

Wonder how the Greens are going to sell their snake oil to the upcoming generation telling them:

That they can't have kids

They can't own a house

They can't have a car

They can't eat meat

They can only have seasonal fruit and vegetables, no more bananas

They can't live or work in a rural area,

Power and heat will be dependant on wind speed,

Foreign travel will only be allowed if travelling by sailboat.

Biden pressing the big red button might be a mercy compared to that

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118560893#Comment_118560893

why do you think anyone is going to listen to a party that no one votes for? they wont be in power after the next election and people like you seem to think they control the world, it's fascinating how weird you people get over the Greens.

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118560988#Comment_118560988

Any Irish legislation brought in is very hard to get rid of, every minute the Irish Green(continuity Fine Gael) party stay in power ,the worse for everyone, so every little chip at them hastens the demise,

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118560893#Comment_118560893

It's not only the Greens, practically all elected TDs from political parties in this country have embraced the same global paradigm. There is nothing to distinguish them other than the degrees of political progressivism they have adopted. The modern political narrative in this country is shaped by outside influences on the population via the Internet, TV, Press and American multi-nationals work culture. American culture dominates, the political influences here originate from the New England area and West coast of the United States are dominant here. The Green movement in Europe is heavily influenced by Germany. Germany effectively controls the EU being the biggest net contributor, and the EU is strongly pushing technocratic governance of the world.  Irish people voted away our independence in various treaties and our politicians must embrace the EU who underwrite governments systemic deficits.  The Irish political system currently rewards obedience and mediocrity and it is why we are sleepwalking into an economic disaster because the majority are comfortable with the system and those that are not they just up and leave or bide their time.

The fertility rate in Ireland dropped below population replacement rate since the 1990s, though it rose during an echo baby boom from a previous generation combined with a massive inward migration surge during the 2000s, next census is April 2022. Nothing to do with the Greens, that's more to do with the availability of contraceptives, pregnancy terminations and work culture.

The monetary policy that favours cuckoo funds with investors from Israel and Germany buying up property is not bought about by the Greens. The suppression of interest rates and the killing of the bond markets for sovereign debt in the EU has meant that the property has become a high yielding asset. EU/ECB policy is the determining factor behind these as you will see much the same if you look at other property markets in major cities across the EU. Local building developments are a product of many decades of politics.  The Greens were responsible for the introduction of UN Agenda 21 across Irish county councils. 

I am not the only person to see the problems caused by restriction of access to cheap energy which is the logical end result of current policies. The politicians are being warned of the consequences by Eirgrid and industry, yet they pursue the policy of being good Europeans. People lead busy lives, media both established and new follows a particular narrative, it pushes sensationalism (the metric is engagement rate), the narrative does not allow multivariate analysis of a problem, instead reducing complex problems to simple catch phrases or slogans.

Everyone is looking at their electricity and gas bills this month and asking what the hell?. The media narrative blames Putin, it has little to do with Russia, The bills are a consequence of several major decisions about energy policy made over the course of the past two decades.

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118560988#Comment_118560988

They have TDs someone must vote them in! How do you feel about a half metre sea rise in the next 50 years? That's going to change our world more than any policy a Government can come up with.

Wouldnt be any harm if we got rid of SUV's, silly yokes

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2022/0201/1277072-suvs-ireland-fuel-safety-energy-climate-change/