"Green" policies are destroying this country

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120779251#Comment_120779251

That's not in the EPA report so I couldn't tell you, they simply say most of the half million are using septic tanks

DJoSullivan79

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120776289#Comment_120776289

My concern is the likes of these companies have very deep pockets, and they wouldn't be coming out in favour of the NRL if there wasn't someway that they could get even more money off the back of it

The reason is quite simple. The big shareholders of these companies want to buy up large swathes of land at distressed prices, what better way of getting prices of land down by supporting laws that make farming unviable. We’ve seen gentrification of some city centres, rural gentrification is next.

Larbre34

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/19/business/airbus-indigo-plane-deal-biggest-history/index.html

Airline IndiGo of India just ordered over 500 new A32X family aircraft.

With pre-existing orders and replacement, their fleet will go from 313 to 990 in the next 6 years.

Yet here in Ireland, a number of interest groups are suggesting we ration our air travel, with an annual quota attached to our PPS number, which if exceeded would result in a premium payment to the State.

prunudo

Lads, did ya not get the memo, we're supposed to turn a blind eye to China and India because somehow they're owed their emissions in some weird back dating idea that, we, here in Europe and the States polluted on the way to being a developed countries so now its their turn.

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120781181#Comment_120781181

And we're to pay them trillions in the process! Laughable.

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120779531#Comment_120779531

Yeah but that's grand, we have to cull our herd, remove all cars/holidays and have everybody living in a shoebox in one megacity to save the world.

Larbre34

15 minute Megacity to you, peasant.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120781155#Comment_120781155

That is one hell of an increase in numbers.

It looks as if there is going to be either a massive increase in the numbers of Indians using planes to go on holidays, or India sees an opportunity to get an edge in the world market at the expense of others using that cheap Russian oil they are more than happy to buy from Putin due to his war in Ukraine.

But then not only are we supposed to turn a blind eye to that, we should be sending them trillions to help them do it.

It really is green comic gold.

Looks like Ireland is on the way to hit 1GW of solar by the end of the year..... potentially. Currently sitting at 680MW.

I reckon we're going to smash the 5GW target by 2025

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/06/28/ireland-surpasses-680-mw-of-installed-pv-capacity/

tom1ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784207#Comment_120784207

Must you post the same thing amongst multiple threads?

It’s like your account has become a green virus- you have become the green agent smith.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784207#Comment_120784207

5GW is nonsense, What is the average capacity factor for solar generation in Ireland per month?

Who is absorbing the cost of having to take generators offline every morning, have them on standby and spinning them up again later in the day? almost every day of the year.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784719#Comment_120784719

It's something between 11 and 18% per annum depending on the technology used and lattitude (according to an IET/Engineers Ireland presentation I attended a while back).

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784719#Comment_120784719

Your chances of getting answers are the same as asking a parrot to explain something he picked up and mimicked.

WishUWereHere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120777077#Comment_120777077

Here you go dumping rubbish about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the greens destroying this country, which is this threads title last time I checked.

So, it’s not interesting times.

antoinolachtnai

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785019#Comment_120785019

These idle queries the ravings of a lunatic though, maybe that’s why they are ignored? All generation needs spinning reserve. There is nothing special about wind or solar in that regard.

It should be obvious but maybe it needs spelling out. The benefit of being 70 percent wind and PV is that we will use less than half as much gas as we would use if we didn’t have them.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785200#Comment_120785200

The benefit of having gas, oil and coal is that it's largely dependable once committed. Wind and solar are variable and can change rapidly with cloud cover or moving fronts, requiring significant ramps in a short time from conventional plant. Those plant are far less efficient, especially during the fast ramps so you're not saving as much gas as you might think.

That's before you get to the folly of paying for oversupply of wind and solar because there's more installed than the island needs or can export. We don't pay the gas plant an energy payment for the time it's offline because it's not needed, why are we planning to pay so called renewables?

antoinolachtnai

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785243#Comment_120785243

None of this has anything to do with spinning reserve.

And the more wind and solar you have the less gas you will need.

We do in fact pay gas plants to be available when they are not needed.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785200#Comment_120785200

What is idle, raving or lunatic about asking someone who looks on solar as the missing link that will achieve our 100% green energy needs, what is the average capacity factor for solar generation in Ireland per month, who is absorbing the cost of having to take generators offline every morning and have them on standby and spinning them up again later in the day, almost every day in the year.

It`s the most basic information the poster should be able to provide on efficiency, cost and reliabilty, or have all those considerations now joined the green sacred cow list to be ignored similar to India powering their economy with coal and cheap Russian oil, tripling their holiday fleet of aircraft while we somehow should be sending them billions of euro ?

antoinolachtnai

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785415#Comment_120785415

That’s a new question.

You know or have ready access to the answers to these questions already.

your new phraseology sounds even more unhinged to be honest.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785316#Comment_120785316

If you only want to focus on spinning reserve, my understanding is that Eirgrid cover the loss of the largest infeed. Presumably these 1GW sized offshore windfarms change the minimum amount of reserve required online? They also differentiate between dynamic spinning reserve (conventional generation) and static (hvdc etc) so it won't all just come from batteries unless Eirgrid change how they dispatch reserve.

If you read my post correctly, you will see that I stated that we don't pay gas plant for energy if they are not online. This is not the same as the capacity market where plant are paid for availability regardless of being used. All generation types seem to be eligible for capacity payments except the Celtic Interconnector for some reason.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785316#Comment_120785316

Wind and solar powered grids are 100% dependent on gas. There are no cost saving for consumers, the paralel generating infrastructure has to be maintained, the plants must burn fuel while on standby producing nothing, we are already paying for gas capacity whether we use it or not, managing unreliable generation on a grid system is more complex and costly. The wind turbine manufacturers are discovering there are limits to the size of turbines, the bigger they make them the faster components like ball bearings and blades wear out (Siemens share price is reflecting the warranty costs). The capacity factors are so low that wind and solar will always be dependent on subsidies otherwise what is the return on capital invested? I don't know if people notice when they get up in the morning, it tends to be dark for much of the year with no wind, the wind picks up during the day as does not sun so if these things can deliver what the wind and solar lobbies say, they will be generating waste power, will have to curtail it or pay people to use it when its available, neither is sustainable. Then every day their output decreases as demand for electricity peaks, guess what happens, it already does in Germany, the reliable generators don't bid until the price is right and sometimes the grid managers have to figuratively get down on their knees and beg them for power.

antoinolachtnai

You are assuming that carbon emissions are free. They are not.

You obviously haven’t heard about the capacity remuneration mechanism?

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785534#Comment_120785534

There was no new question. It was the same question Pa ElGrande asked DaCor, but like DaCor you do not appear to be able to answer either.

Nothing unusual unfortunately. Greens have no problem coming up with figures on timelines, cost and efficiency when it is something their ideology does not like, but when asked for the same on their prefences it`s nothing but bluster and little personal barbs.

Ireland is seeing the effects of climate change and it's only going to get worse

https://www.rte.ie/news/weather/2023/0630/1391944-ireland-climate-change/

Met Éireann has said Ireland can expect more frequent and extreme weather events, including higher temperatures and thunderstorms, due to climate change.

The warning comes as provisional data from the forecaster indicates that June 2023 will be the hottest June on record in the country, breaking an 83-year-old temperature record.

The World Meteorological Organization recently warned that Europe is warming twice as fast as other continents and Ireland is feeling the effect.

roosterman71

Was there climate change 83 years ago that set the original record?

prunudo

We had a high pressure locked in over us for more than 2 weeks, at a time when the sun is at its highest in the sky, of course it was going to be warm. The temps barely got above the mid 20s yet it being painted as some doomsday scenario. Fear fear fear, thats all i see coming from government bodies. Met eireann, epa, rte are firmly aboard the climate change train with their 'worried' reports.

tom1ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786387#Comment_120786387

The weather was fantastic in June.

I imagine it was equally good 83 years ago also.

Any newspaper clipping citing climate change as the reason for a hot June 83 years ago?

Also you haven’t explained what new tram lines and stations were opened last year……..

ednwireland

Siemens could be having problems with wind turbines

https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/companies/arid-41172907.html

antoinolachtnai

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786461#Comment_120786461

Half of the warmest months have occurred since 2008 though? It’s not a case of one swallow.

roosterman71

Here's the June temperature records

We can see that the trend is hotter. I've 3 questions really.

1) Why is the average only calculated from 1961-1990 and not the full range?

2) Were we in a cooling trend in the early 20th century?

3) What happened in the mid 2000s that all of a sudden the temps go up for the month and stay up each year?