The humblebragging dishonesty of LinkedIn

Sky King

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

Wow, talking about missing the point of the thread by a country mile.

Who everyone here, virtually without exception, is sneering it, are the fakers - the people copy-pasting 'inspirational' quotes without a hint of irony. The ones calling themselves 'senior manager for mobile petroleum resource operations' instead of someone who pumps fuel at a petrol station.

It's the ones who spout business babble ' outside the box blue sky thinking going forward' instead of actually having meaningful, insightful contributions which have some value and relevance.

It's the multitude of crap interchangeable 'life coaches'. Johnny who who did a middling leaving cert followed by a few years as a junior manager in Argos then did a distance learning course in business coaching and now has the audacity and complete lack of self awareness to approach genuinely successful people and offer them coaching.

Nobody is raggin on youngsters starting their careers. In fact if they were working their way up without resorting to the above it would be quite refreshing.

Do you think the people here who are interviewing others would accept someone who didn't throw around some jargon?

Sky King

Jargon is fine. That's just the esoteric vocabulary of a profession, be it IT, Aviation or whatever.

It's the meaningless buzzwords that are stupid.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

I can't understand how you get that from it (if you genuinely do).

The people who post the toxic sh1te on LinkedIn are also well established in their careers/business building. They are boasting and patting themselves on the back, or posting disingenuous tripe, like running a very successful social media analytics company... while bemoaning how technology has taken over our lives.

Where is the evidence that those commenting to this thread have those bullsh1t interview/recruitment expectations?! It's the people we are criticising on LinkedIn who are far more likely to have them!

These clowns are contributing to the way the world of work is now - a certain type of personality/playing a game is what's considered important to recruiters rather than just being an experienced hard worker, and I feel sorry for young people trying to navigate that shoite actually.

Also those on the other end. Saw a post from a guy who said he couldn't get a job because he's 50 (those happy clappy caring companies and recruiters - their virtue signalling is only for SOME stuff 😆).

Sleepy

Years ago, I thought LinkedIn was so useful I posted a guide to using it on the Work & Jobs forum here and it ended up as my most thanked post ever on boards.ie. It's still a useful way of connecting to people in other organisations and looking for new positions being posted etc but, dear god, the crap that makes up 99% of the feed is excruciating nowadays.

Wanderer78

social media truly is fcuking weird, ive always found sites such as linkedin really weird, its disturbing how much people have to try sell themselves, just to get job, where are we going with this stuff!

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

Some of us are just old enough and have been round the block and have seen enough bullshyte artists, without having to see it plastered all over the internet.

I don't use linkedin or any other social media because I find the whole lot is generally full of ar**holes thinking that other people should give a damn about them, what they are doing or have supposedly done.

I know of one manager whose Linkedin accomplishments are so far removed from the truth it is a running joke.

When you actually run into these spoofers in real life, it very quickly becomes apparent they are full of shyte.

The thing that worries me is that I will need to use it to move jobs, as now it seems to be one of the go tos to verify someone's credentials.

And if I am interviewing I always find if a candidate is honest it is actually more appealing than someone blowing shyte, which can be picked up on quickly enough.

Call me old fashioned.

Stark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

Better young inexperienced folk find out what people actually think of that shite by reading the honest opinions here than finding it out the hard way when prospective employers are laughing behind their backs at them.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222694#Comment_118222694

I don't really believe you I'm afraid. If some candidate was blunt enough to tell you in an interview I'm here for the money only and will be out the door at 5, I don't that candidate will get very far.

The hypocrisy of the people here sneering at others going OTT on fluff and buzzwords while expecting some fluff and buzzwords while interviewing others. They should take a look at themselves rather than sneer at others

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118223253#Comment_118223253

"People"? Which people commenting to this thread do you know for a fact are recruiters?

There's also a huge gap between the shyte on LinkedIn and saying "I'm only interested in the money and will be out the door at 5". You seem to be using non existent stuff to argue.

partyguinness

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

Another way to look at it is that after quite a few years down the line 'we' have the perspective to realise that it is all bullshit. And as an employer who interviews I can assure from my seat at least and IMO that Linkedin is overflowing with vacuous crap and corporate speak bingo bull ****. Sure, have a profile by all means and absolutely nothing wrong with that and indeed you should have one but from my experience nobody worth their weight in salt has the time to post inspirational trite nonsense.

Anyone up for 'touching base' later or 'chasing up' some bespoke non descript business Cloud solutions?

partyguinness

I had a hilarious sales pitch a few years ago via Linkedin. This kid who honestly thought he could just spam me with rubbish and he could bring my business into the 20th century...it still makes me laugh. I debated on whether to point out that he meant the 21st century but I thought "Nah. **** him."

Several years on and he was still pitching about the 20th century.

partyguinness

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118223253#Comment_118223253

Who expects buzz words and fluff at an interview? You are making quite a few assumptions there.

In my profession at least, the technical aspects of the role are never discussed at interview. It is taken as read that if you are called for an interview you have the techincal ability. It does not turn into an oral exam.

Perhaps candidates feel the need to throw out a few buzz words and say the right things but completely unnecessary in my role. It just shows you are probably trying to hard- it won't be held against you.

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118223253#Comment_118223253

As "Fever Dream" quite ably pointed out you appear to jump from one extreme to another.

No I wouldn't be impressed by someone that pointed out at a job interview they would be out at 5 on the dot if they got the job.

But I would be impressed if they said they were leaving their current job because of the money rather than some waffle about wanting to grow and reach their ultimate potential within a new organisational ecosystem such as ours.

Or some such waffle.

Lets face money is most often the unspoken truth why people are moving jobs.

And no I am not a recruiter, but sadly I got to know a good few of them quite well in a pass life.

Fook me pink some of them are as thick as pig shyte.

Oh and arrogant twats to boot.

partyguinness

AckwelFoley

A little bit of fluff is fine. Like you're selling a car.

A truck load of diahorrea isn't cool, and most people see through it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

When I interview people I try to establish two things:

a) Are you a pain in the hole?

b) Are you capable of saying "I don't know" when you don't know something? (This is related to point a.)

That's pretty much it for me.

mariaalice

Social media has addled people's brains.

Why would you be looking at what others say about themselves let them at it if it makes them happy and they think it will make a difference.

The interview is where people get offered a job they could say they are God on LinkedIn but it's still the interview that gets them the job, not Linkedin.

Has anyone here got to the stage of saying...They have no LinkedIn profile do they think they are that special! they don't need one.

It's similar to threads on dating profiles, pages, and pages of angry rants about what people have on their profile or don't have on their profile.

mariaalice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238195#Comment_118238195

Remind me of something my daughter says about her degree, it didn't teach her how to do the job it taught her how to find the information to do the job.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238448#Comment_118238448

Exactly. A degree is supposed to teach you how to think. It's shouldn't be about learning facts. A lot of people don't get this.

mariaalice

There is another aspect to this, someone's job evaluation could have a section asking how have they contributed to upping the profile of the organisation, so mentioning the organisation on LinkedIn is almost mandatory.

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

That post didn't really land on any level,did it?

OMM 0000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222021#Comment_118222021

Ah, as usual salonfire comes along with an insane angle on things.

I'll never forgot the classic conversations I've had with you where you claim software engineering is easy and anyone can do it... and then go on to repeatedly prove you understand nothing about software engineering.

OMM 0000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238462#Comment_118238462

Absolutely depends on the type of degree.

Philosophy degree? Mostly teaching you how to think.

Computer science degree? Mostly teaching you facts.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240554#Comment_118240554

Yeah true.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225394#Comment_118225394

Uggh recruiters. A cross between aa double glazing salesman and a Jehovas witness who you unfortunately you opened your door to.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222175#Comment_118222175

It's the lack of self awareness that baffles me.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240631#Comment_118240631

Absolutely not true. Engineering, computer science and pretty much any other STEM degrees teach you how to think first and then teach you facts as an additional benefit. You will be pretty useless in all these fields with just the stuff you learned for the degree.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240866#Comment_118240866

Ok fair enough, not my fields of study. Weird how you respond to me and not the originator.

Cordell

Don't take it personally :) I was just following the flow of the conversation and I can't go back and edit and replace the quote anyway.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238435#Comment_118238435

A lot of people have to have a LinkedIn account, and those people, whom we can't help but see at times, are unhinged - with the lies, condescension, insincerity, self aggrandisement and just incredible tone deafness. It's not harmless - it's toxic, and it's helping to bolster the world of hiring now, which is all this americanised nonsense about your persona rather than being a skilled hard worker.

mariaalice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240866#Comment_118240866

That is not true my daughter's degree is very skilled base, you can not learn everything you need to know in any degree so part of the learning is how to find the information you need to do the job and add it to the foundation knowledge you have from the degree.

mariaalice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118241016#Comment_118241016

That why I said it similar to the mad stuff people say about dating profiles there is no going back though.

A job ad so bit different to what we are discussing, but also on LinkedIn. Clowns. And of course they're looking for a zillion accomplishments from applicants. I've noticed that marketing types regularly can't write basic sentences.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240544#Comment_118240544

Oh here he is. The big important executive (in Japan don't you know), who reads code for a bedtime story. No doubt boring all those around him about code. Still finds the time to sh1t on those, younger people on Linkedin who try display some enthusiasm in order to (badly) impress the executives and interviewers like him.

Still haven't found a software engineer who come from an non CS background then? You can't be very experienced. Ever find a doctor that comes from a non-medical field who ends up in medicine after a 1-yr conversion course? The answer will tell you which is possible and which is not.

Young people trying to display enthusiasm aren't who this thread refers to. You're on a windup.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240544#Comment_118240544

I've noticed that since I challenged you, you've stopped spamming the Work and Jobs forum discouraging anyone expressing an interest in development. Unless they were eating, breathing and sh1tting code, then no one will succeed in it.

So you'd expect someone to spend all their free time to build a github portfolio. Maybe someone who already spent the day coding. Otherwise, they'd be beneath you.

Then you have the audacity to sneer and people who take themselves too seriously and go OTT on linkedin with their own thoughts and achievements.

I'm personally glad I stood up to you, wasn't intimated by your "CTO at multiple Fortune 500s" spiel and took you down off your hobby horse.

partyguinness

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238462#Comment_118238462

Indeed. That is why I find it peculiar when graduates say they have this and that "qualification". A BA or BComm or BSc or BCL degree etc does not qualify you for anything. It is not a qualification- it is an education.

It's what you do afterwards is what counts.

😊

StupidLikeAFox

Mother of god

retalivity

SAP, indeed.

Stark

Has to be a stick-on tattoo/wind-up, surely.

Okay, I think this comment from her in the replies explains everything:

 Life is tough and I chose to "self grow" over "self pity". Just survived a stroke and ready to start next chapter of my life. This tattoo means a lot to me and I am recovering every day looking at it.

AckwelFoley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118295291#Comment_118295291

It appears that she is serious. I've looked at the comments section.

Seriously ill

I thought the fuel injection technician job title was a joke until LinkedIn. 😳

CrabRevolution

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118244074#Comment_118244074

A degree is almost the definition of a qualification.

While I get the point you're trying to make, they're perfectly right to say they have a qualification.

The sheer overuse of words like "excited", "empowered", "delighted", "inspired" followed by some mundane work related shite. Come on now, you or your audience both know you are lying/talking shite.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118311137#Comment_118311137

You'll never be a rock star or ninja with that kind of attitude. Too much coloured chalk in your baby infants!

mariaalice

Its modern life. I added two local businesses on Facebook mainly to get in touch with them both businesses are owned by individuals who are both men, both business owners are big into the self-affirmations but with diametrically different approaches

It's hilarious, so one is all...when life gets tough the tough get going, toughen up, be a man, eat or get eaten, etc, the other is all peace and love to all mankind, stay kind, love yourself the love will come back to you, etc.

AckwelFoley

The world "focus" is thrown around LinkedIn like jizz at a bukkake party

Focus for 2022 is to focus the focus on our focus to achieve our company goals

Tossers

Pawwed Rig

I rarely use it other than when I was looking for a job but the notifications about nonsense are a pita. Things like work anniversaries are just cringey and notifications about some girl I never heard of being promoted or passing her professional exams annoy the crap out of me. I wouldn't be on it at all of it wasn't an expectation in my employment