Bringing / Sending used / personally owned " Big Ticket " items from UK to ROI

jussurfin

Hi Guys,

Thanks to anybody who can help.

I am trying to work my way through the minefield of bringing or sending items to Ireland from the UK post Brexit.

My parents are Irish, emigrated to the UK and had children there ( me ).  I and my siblings were all born in the UK, live in the UK, we all have British passports ( would qualify for Irish passports, simply never got round to it ).  We have the old family homes which are now holiday homes.  On and off we have been doing them up a bit with often bits and pieces from our own homes as we upgraded, or stuff we bought in the UK and brought / shipped over.

Over the years we have either brought over things by ferry or occasionally shipped via a remover specialising in UK to ROI relocation.  So far, no problems.  However Brexit has changed everything.

I want to ship over a few items.  I have looked through advice such as " Returning To Ireland " cannot frame it as relocating to Ireland, as we are not. 

For example, a range type cooker, original price was 9K, but is now well used.  Based on eBay values, it would have a theoretical second hand value of £2K plus.  It would need to be shipped by a relocator or a courier firm, maybe on a pallet.

Do I need to pay Duty and VAT on this ?

Can I call it an intrinsic value of a nominal 100 Euro, or do I have to value it at what is the 2nd hand market value as estimated by somebody like eBay or Done Deal ?

Thanks for any advice !

ohnonotgmail

Do I need to pay Duty and VAT on this ?

Can I call it an intrinsic value of a nominal 100 Euro, or do I have to value it at what is the 2nd hand market value as estimated by somebody like eBay or Done Deal ?

you do need to pay vat and possibly duty. you can put whatever value you like on it but if customs don't agree they will put their own value on it.

Darc19

I check with a removals firm or one that specialises in personal effects.

Emerald freight or someone like AMC removals.

As you can probably show ownership, you should be fine with importing, but a removals company will be your best bet for correct information

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118011709#Comment_118011709

Ownership doesn't negate customs duty if they aren't relocating here but leaving the goods here.

Panrich

Between freight charges and customs duties, would it make more sense to sell in UK for its value and buy something for the house here in Ireland with the money received?

Darc19

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118012329#Comment_118012329

Didn't realise that the op still lives in the UK.

The easy option is to hire a van and bring it over via Belfast and drive down.

jussurfin

Thanks for all your help guys. I really appreciate it.

We as a family all live in the UK, I doubt we could even pretend to be relocating. There are bills and a few of us have various legacy bank accounts here, but to all intents and purposes it is simply a holiday home situation. I would not really want to pretend.

The cooker is quite unique, and given the size of the British second hand marketplace, the the Irish second hand marketplace, they simply don't come up for sale in Ireland, whereas they reguarlly pop up on Ebay UK. I have seen them go for anything between 500 to 2000 on Ebay UK. I would not be able to replace it by sourcing in Ireland.

My solutions.

Put it on a pallet and send with a professional courier, but give a nominal value of 500 to 1000, which would be evidenced by Ebay UK.

OR

Bring it in the car via Belfast. That said, I have never travelled that route, we always come via Wales. Would Belfast Port simply wave us through, no questions asked at all ?

Thanks Guys !!!!

jussurfin

Sorry Guys.

Can anyone answer the following. Got to say quite confused.

My research suggested the folllowing calculations on a %item valued at 1000.

DUTY at 12 %, so 1120.

Then add the courier charge, say 300, so 1420, then VAT at 23% on top of item and courier charges, making the grand total 1746.

So I have to pay 120 Duty, plus 326 VAT.

Would a personally owned Second Hand product attract both 12 percent duty and 23 percent VAT.

Honestly thanks to anybody who answers. Don't waste your time calculating it, but maybe there is a website I could get a definative answer ?

Thanks Guys

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016364#Comment_118016364

not sure where you are getting 12% duty from. Under the Brexit free trade deal there should not be any duty

andrewfaulk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118017623#Comment_118017623

Duty is based on the origin of the goods, not where they are coming from.. So unless the cooker was manufactured in the UK which is unlikely as most white goods are made outside the EU nowadays, it will attract the duty

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016364#Comment_118016364

IIRC the VAT and duty are on the landed price not the items price. So the item is 1k and shipping is 300 then the VAT and duty will be on 1300 not 1000

Darc19

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118024938#Comment_118024938

You'd be surprised.

Huge number of white goods and cookers are made in UK. Hotpoint, belling, range master, indesit, stoves, and several others

Italy and Germany also have huge white goods manufacturing. Italy specialises in refrigeration.

Lower priced basic appliances are far east, so unlikely duty is due.

As for Belfast, yes, you are effectively waved on as you are in the UK.

L1011

The example given of a 9k when new range type cooker is likely an Aga, Rayburn or Stanley (or another brand of the same firm) which will have been made in the UK or possibly even Ireland (pre 2018).