Should we in Ireland be concerned about Jihad?

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055328#Comment_118055328

Completely disingenuous.

As a previous poster just pointed out, it stopped because of deaths after a stampede and there is talk of it returning.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055165#Comment_118055165

You've both edited my post and then deliberately misquoted what you've edited, to change the meaning.

This thread might be low on factual accuracy, but thats no excuse.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118033217#Comment_118033217

BEAUTIFULLY FCKING ILLUSTRATED, Signore.

Let's not forget France's vanguard role in destroying Libya or their ongoing military and economic wrecking of Western Africa. And they have never stopped interfering in Lebanon, a little gem theat they see as purely their own.

The lack of knowledge of some regarding the machinations of NATO members and affiliates is quite frankly embarrassing.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118033668#Comment_118033668

You bring up words like "naive" and "short-sighted" and then puke out "they hate our way of life". If that's not the mother of all cretinous epithets that is the hallmark of idiots like George Bush or Tommy Robinson knuckleheads.

I can just see Paul Pogba, Mezut Ozil and Mo Salah getting together at the mosque after a match and sitting around with their prayer beads and saying "brothers, it is only a matter of time before we destroy this British and European way of life so that we can all beat women and return to the glories of the Stone Age. Then we must destroy the BBC for employing that apostate whore Mishal Husain. Yes I know she is a beautiful woman but she must be shrouded and stuffed back indoors."

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118034674#Comment_118034674

And if you were living in the US you'd be a guest too, no? And if your wife was Japanese and thrown into a concentration camp in the 1940's you'd have no right to have a problem with that? Or in the more recent times you disagreed with little children being separated from their parents and put into cages along the border with Mexico......the logic being "go live elsewhere if you have a problem with how we roll in this country"?

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118035407#Comment_118035407

If someone kicks a dog and that dog bites back and the kicker cries foul and runs to animal protection and you say "maybe you shouldn't kick the dog, idiot!", then you are the leftist. After all you are a "biting-dog sympathizer".

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037002#Comment_118037002

And the reason is very simple. There is NO threat. More people in the UK get killed by cows than by terrorists. This nonsense of 60,000 Muslims in Ireland being a harbinger of carnage is laughable. There are mass graves of infants in Ireland from not so long ago. Nice Catholic touch there. There are family murder suicides. There are rape/murders such as that Ana Kriegel and many others. There are drug hits. There are all these things and yet the swarthy Arab is going to wipe us all out because they hate our way of life.

🤣

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037177#Comment_118037177

And do what exactly? Ban the religion? Put them all in concentration camps? Extermination camps? Deport them? They're French CITIZENS.

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055178#Comment_118055178

And that's the problem with Islam now and has been for the last 1400 years, death and destruction is in its very "constitution", the Quran and reinforced with Sharia Law. Christianity has its renaissance 2'000 years ago with the arrival of Jesus Christ, but unfortunately, such renaissance is impossible with Islam, because Muslims claim that it comes from God, and only God can change it. So until the whole World submits ( converts to Islam) and Allah comes. it cannot be changed. A Mufti can issue a Fatwa against anyone, probably the most famous Fatwa was the one that was issued against Salman Rushdie by the Ayatollah Khomeini. To this day, he has armed guards protecting him, and despite apologizing, the Fatwa still stands. It speaks for itself when during the last 1'400 years, wars have been fought, Country's conquered, dynasties risen and fallen, yet Islam and its Sharia remains unchanged. And so it will continue. It is surpassed in longevity only by Christianity, from which all death and destruction has been not only removed, but is actually forbidden. As for Jihad, the purpose of this thread...the word itself means " Effort" and it can be applied to almost every endeavor imaginable. Want to stop smoking? Jihad against tobacco. Get good results in your exams? Jihad for learning, and so on. Its also a pretty common name for men. But the most usual association of Jihad, is when its used against the enemies of Islam.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038473#Comment_118038473

This is pure propaganda. You have morons in America who actually think that France is now run by Muslims. The Swedes and the Danes like to run their show their way and this doesn't sit well with bullies like US/UK. From some of the reports you would swear that Stockholm/Gothenberg are no-go zones and that gentle blonde-haired, blue-eyed Scandi girls are running home before they get gang-raped. Utter bollocks. I've lived in Germany, The Netherlands and Scandinavia. I've seen it first hand. In the Netherlands there was a problem with Moroccan street punks robbing people. They got away with it because the Dutch are pretty slow to address a problem until it becomes a REAL problem. These street punks were no different to little ferral knackers in Dublin shoplifting in the Jervis Centre or terrorising people on the Luas Red Line. Just little opportunistic bastards. Eventually they got slapped down. You could call them Muslims if you want. They would harass girls in short skirts. Not because they were Muslims but because they were knackers. They would drink and smoke weed and pick pockets.

The likes of Geert Wilders and Pim Fortuyn used this crappy anti-social behaviour as their agenda.

If someone is a criminal you punish them for their crime.

If I get beaten up by a culchie or a scrote from Jobstown or mob of English hooligans in Temple Bar after a match or a Muslim or a Nigerian, I'm going to hate whoever did it. But I'm not going to demand a stiffer sentence be doled out to Ahmed or Mfubu because of their ethnicity or religious background.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118040331#Comment_118040331

What does "integrate" mean?

Stop listening to their music and embrace ours instead? Give me their music over a random, tuneless trad crap anyday. Grandma must shed her favourite outfit and put on a Dunnes parka and have buns and tea in Spar? Give up their delicious food in favour of a fcuking spice-bag? Have their sons and daughters forego a science degree in Trinity in order to follow in Vogue Williams' footsteps? Substituting a Saturday night chatting and getting excited about life, love and the future and instead spend the evening, stilletoes in hand, pissing like a camel behind a car as your future husband snorts another line off his free hand and yells "Hurry da fcuk up!"

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118044038#Comment_118044038

Do you know why it was taken down?

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118044038#Comment_118044038

So the Chinese are "allegedly" rounding up people like the Uighurs and ramming them into concentration camps. They're also about to slaughter everyone in Taiwan. They're also allegedly going to swallow up Hong Kong and put millions to the sword. They also have nukes and are in bed with Kim. They also play fast and loose with software copyrights.

Why are you not clamouring to have every little Ton, Zhic and Harry-quan expelled from Ireland. They practically own Capel Street, Parnell Street, The Liberties,

The Muslims are so bad and must be gotten rid of. The Chinese, by comparison......?

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049000#Comment_118049000

Maybe because she is afforded bail under the laws of this land. Perhaps you can petition her to be held and then you can whine about taxpayer money. Better still, YOU put her up and chain her to your radiator.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054432#Comment_118054432

They do? Get out your stats. Let's take Spain.

How many people have died at the hands of the spooky terrorist in comparison to those who have died from drowning, drug overdoses, jumping into the sea high on narcotics, dehydration, street stabbings in Magaluf, running of the bulls, more crap regarding idiots bungee jumping their way to a wheelchair or a coffin.

Women raped. Alcohol poisoning, coming off a scooter because you're are wasted and losing a limb or worse.

And that's just a weekend.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054730#Comment_118054730

How many soldiers from Iceland or Andorra or Cyprus went from door to door and kicked it in, screamed "Go, Go Go, Fire in the hole. We got rag-head Hajis here", as little toddlers were screaming in terror, and then the "hearts and minds" US dildoes torch the place or call in a drone strike that innevitably blows a wife and her groom to chopmeat along with all those dancing?

And then you have people saying "we're here to help" and then you have thousands back in Walter Reed hospital missing limbs and lying in their own infections and faeces or blowing their brains out because the drugs don't work anymore?

You don't show this....why, because it will make people a tad ill. And if you do you get banged up.

12 US vets attempt suicide per day. Can you imagine how many of their victims try?

But my shares in Raytheon, General Dynamics, Halliburton, Northrop-Grumman and Boeing are up.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054978#Comment_118054978

So were all the "kids" who were burned out of their houses.

Have you seen the kids trying to get to school along the Garvaghy Road? Little girls, white-faced with terror.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054552#Comment_118054552

I'll hope you welcome my wife. We live between The Netherlands and Dublin. She's an oncologist and Persian.

Perhaps she'll work on your prostate some day. Maybe save the rest of your ass.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118053367#Comment_118053367

Doesn't the US Congress have to agree before any military action is taken?

I don't remember that being taken even for the Vietnam "Police Action".

You talk about "the confines of the law". The United States Constitution states that all treaties are the ultimate law of the land.

Now the US entered into treaties, namely the Fourth Geneva Convention whereby a war of aggression was illegal. Also that collective punishment was a crime against humanity, yet levelled sanctions against Iraq whereby 500,000 children died.

The US also entered into INTERNATIONAL agreements, codified in the US Constitution (as if that means a fcuking thing) and tortured people at Guantanamo, despite being signitories to the universal ban on torture.

The US has routinely used these meaningless treaties and then flouted them.

The US has used collectived punishment whether it be in the form of sanctions, blockades, terror tactics, economic destabilastion, AND threats against those who might assist to soften the blows. And you talk about "the confines of the law"?

The US ...and here's a lovely one, were completely out of their minds with outrage because the Belarussians forced down a plane to arrest someone. I think the words were "This is an outrage. A violation of the skies".

The **** almost shot down a state jet carrying Correa or was it Maduro? I can't remember. Because the turds thought Snowden was on board.

Snowden whose crime was to exercise his 1st Amendment right.

SPARE ME, please, the confines of law.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054591#Comment_118054591

Shouldn't you move the family somewhere safer then?

I mean if you are terrified walking around the streets with your family then that can't be good for you. Where would be better? A cave? The woods? What is there was a wasp up there or a muslim training camp. You'd never sleep. What if your daughter came home from school and said "Daddy, can I go and have dinner with the Hussain's? Mr Hussain is a surgeon and my friend, Ali, in my class wants to play after our homework is done."

Don't go to that house!!!! They're grooming you to be a bride of ISIS.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054900#Comment_118054900

Attacking another country is a war crime.

Parachutes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055863#Comment_118055863

I’m talking about the extremists obviously. Nice way to paint me as some sort of xenophobe though!

Parachutes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056035#Comment_118056035

You sound a bit unhinged to be honest buddy.

Parachutes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055798#Comment_118055798

Everybody hates the soldier until the enemy is at the gates.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056073#Comment_118056073

Being fearful or worried doesnt mean hiding away. Pleae note when referring to islam i don't mean shia(persian) islam who are very mch different to sunni islam. The few shia i know absolutely despise jihadism as they are the most likely victims of it in the world today

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056035#Comment_118056035

Cyprus(north) was invaded by islam. Greeks expelled from the occupied land. Btw there were c 500 greek volunteers fighting in syria against sunni jihadis

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056060#Comment_118056060

The 500k figure is widely known to be fake.

How are sanctions a war?

"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" There no doubt it's true of the US also.

The effects of the sanctions on the civilian population of Iraq have been disputed.[8][9][10][11] Whereas it was widely believed that the sanctions caused a major rise in child mortality, research following the 2003 invasion of Iraq has shown that commonly cited data were doctored by the Saddam Hussein regime and that "there was no major rise in child mortality in Iraq after 1990 and during the period of the sanctions".[12]

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055797#Comment_118055797

I haven't edited anything, if I quoted you I quoted the relevant part of your post verbatim.

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056088#Comment_118056088

Try get a bit of kip in Alan!

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055945#Comment_118055945

Step one: stop importing more, send the non citizens back home

If they're naughty little chaps with dual citizenship, remove their citizenship and send em packing

Make integration into Western culture an absolute, no more colonies or ghettos.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056404#Comment_118056404

"Integration into Western culture"

What exactly does that mean? What is "Western culture" exactly?

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056416#Comment_118056416

Ah yes, the but-what-is-western-culture-exactly equivalence argument

Here's a few examples of what isnt western culture

Sharia Law

Wandering around in bin liners and pyjamas

Forced marriage

Public signs in Arabic

Calling to prayer

Funding for all of the above from abroad

Entire neighborhoods of Berbers and Arabs with all of the above

Knock that on the head for a start.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056338#Comment_118056338

Oh you edited it alright, to create a strawman and now defend it with another strawman.

People wonder why there's so much fake facts and conspiracy theories these days on forums and social media. Imo it's because it become so habitual, many people can no longer tell the difference between reality and stuff that's just made up.

There was a thread on the conspiracy forums requesting that it be made a forum rule that you weren't allowed to challenge conspiracy theories no matter how divorced from reality they were. I guess people learnt this from trump. That is you repeat the same fake news often enough, not only will some people believe it. The person posting it will start to believe it also.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056404#Comment_118056404

Kinda flies in the face of what the Irish diaspora did though.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056416#Comment_118056416

Is the culture that created the flying machines, and not the culture that flew them into buildings.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056449#Comment_118056449

Bin liners and pajamas? Earlier been to Tesco in the morning? Ever done a school run? Plenty of "western culture" there as women in pajamas take there little Johhny or Damo to school

Forced marriage you say? Wouldn't happen in a whith Christian western country right? Now way no how.... oh wait.

https://twitter.com/TheTNHoller/status/1449733198947233798?t=9rvBI4lLLf7gdL5LoWQB4Q&s=19

Calling to prayer? Never heard church bells on a Sunday morning?

The rest is just pure scaremongering, you're OK with the above when it's your kind of people doing it though

What a hypocrite.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056486#Comment_118056486

I didnt edit anything, go back and look and show me what I edited.

And yes I read that thread, I partook in the discussion, it was conspiracy theorists that wanted an echo chamber. Are you confusing me with someone else by any chance?

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056075#Comment_118056075

Where is starting a war defined as a war crime.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056618#Comment_118056618

I said

"That's because there was very little targeting of unassociated civilians in Dublin."

You changed that to

"That's because there was very little targeting of unassociated civilians."

Then you asked a question not about my comment, but about your edited version. You're basically asking yourself a question.

The Risk of Jihad attack in Dublin today vs an attack arising out NI conflict in your lifetime in Dublin is different, and for different reasons.

RobbieTheRobber

The risk of being involved in a road traffic accident causing death in Ireland or of being victim to a jihad attack. Which should I worry about more. Hmmmmmm

110 dead this year Vs 0.

Yeah I think as a people in Ireland there are many many more tangible risks to life than a fuckin jihad attack that we should worry about.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056166#Comment_118056166

How does a country get invaded by a religion, exactly? Was Crimea invaded by Atheism? or Russian Orthodoxy? Was China invaded by Shintoism?

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056859#Comment_118056859

As I stated, I didn't "edit" your post, I quoted the pertinent part.

ShatterAlan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056292#Comment_118056292

You're going to use Wikipedia as a source for infant deaths as a result of US sanctions?

Who states it to be fake?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057165#Comment_118057165

So the islamic conquests by the bauld mohammed and his 4 righteous caliph successors were nothing to do with islam?

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057165#Comment_118057165

What planet are you living on?

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057243#Comment_118057243

Wiki isn't a source.

You can read the more about the providence of the data here... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5717930/

If you have some other sources I'll gladly read them.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057236#Comment_118057236

I could do what you did and selectively delete, which is editing.

As I stated , I did edit your post.

So I'm glad we agree. :)

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057296#Comment_118057296

..or the crusades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6SkaFMTihI&ab_channel=SteveBennett

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057559#Comment_118057559

So you're saying that if someone were to quote you they have to quote the whole post? Yeah thats not gonna happen, if you think I have done you wrong then feel free to report me to mods

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057109#Comment_118057109

Also more than 100 people drown each year, and only ~20 are murdered. Because the risk of drowning is much higher that then risk of being murdered I say that we need to retrain all Garda detectives as lifeguards. Or lifegardai. And we should stop worrying about anything - except of causing offence, that's a capital crime.