Ireland badly needs a new centre-right party - Here's my proposal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193419#Comment_118193419

It wasn't ever really a thing here before, nor was it in Britain either. Certainly not on the scale we have seen in the last 35-40 years or so.

Buying a house was a major thing for my parents, so they strongly encouraged the same for me. Still, I dunno about it not being a thing here before that.. since my grandparents both had their own houses. One a farmer in Carlow, and the other a small cottage in the West of Galway. Most people of my parents generation (that I'm aware of) would have bought (gotten a mortgage) a house for their themselves/families..

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193879#Comment_118193879

Sure a cursory look at the history of Ireland will tell you that the land acts were not a big deal. The whole ownership thing only started in the 1980s 😂

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193986#Comment_118193986

It's the new revisionism, on another thread they are making out that one-off housing didn't exist until the 1970s, trying to brainwash young people into thinking one-room co-living is normal,

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193879#Comment_118193879

Sure, down the country building and owning a home was more of a thing than it was in towns and cities. Or the eldest took over the house and farm etc.

In urban areas, owning "property" wasn't that big a thing for most people in either Ireland or Britain until around the 80's. There were some people who would have considered it important, of course, but it just wasn't de rigueur as it is today.

But with renting being the meltdown nonsense that it is in this country these days, I'd encourage people to start putting by money for a deposit as soon at they get their first job and if I had a kid, I'd be starting a little bank account for them for that very purpose.

Pawwed Rig

Anyone I know in their 70s and 80s have owned houses since they could afford it. There was never renters outside council tenants when I was growing up in the 1980s. We are talking about Ireland here right?

TaurenDruid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118197086#Comment_118197086

In urban areas, owning "property" wasn't that big a thing for most people in either Ireland or Britain until around the 80's. There were some people who would have considered it important, of course, but it just wasn't de rigueur as it is today.

Nope - even in cities, outside of council estates, it was always very much a case of if you can buy, then buy. I grew up not too far from the inner city and almost everyone on our street had a mortgage. I've no reason to believe any of the neighbouring streets was any different.

The one difference was that housing was, relatively, a lot cheaper - the assumption was if one person of a couple was working in any sort of stable job, they could afford to provide for spouse, kids, bills and mortgage. Now the assumption is you have to be a couple to get a mortgage, and both of you have to be working.

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118199698#Comment_118199698

Wouldn't be much stats on private renting from then as it would have been entirely cash and no one registered, There were empty houses everywhere so rents would have been very low

kowloon

I could have sworn I read there was an aversion to renting here that goes back to The Famine.

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118214376#Comment_118214376

Very few Catholics would have owned land during the famine so that is unlikely, peoples aversion would have come from not wanting to find themselves beholden to landlords like their ancestors,

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240685#Comment_118240685

That's what I meant, the famine being a cause of the aversion to renting due to people being kicked out during the famine.

Sibyl_savant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118130506#Comment_118130506

Most scientists? Well my chemistry teacher disagrees, as does the woman from No. 23 who works in a lab. You will have to do better than "most scientists" What scientists exactly? What are their qualifications etc.