Independent ie article! Madness if you drive a ten year old plus car !

Speedline

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118097407#Comment_118097407

I watched my uncle race a 1954 Lancia around Mondello some years ago. Pretty sure it had original hubs too.!😉

Ubbquittious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118084453#Comment_118084453

Staying at home is not healthy either. Radon & lack of exercise not good

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118098065#Comment_118098065

Sleep in your new car UB. It's the only safe thing to do and will save you money on rent/mortgage/utilities so the car financing will be a doddle.

Flinty997

We have a homemade trailer with the axle and hubs of an ancient van. When it was at least 30yrs old we overloaded the trailer with gravel and the wheel bolts sheared off one side. Had to drag the trailer off the road on it's hub. Fixed the bolts and we still use the trailer today.

Problem with older cars is often they can't keep up with modern traffic or braking. You have to drive them with a bigger margin for error. They also will have a worse safety rating than a newer car. But unless they are poorly maintained. That includes looking for corrosion. They aren't going to simply fall apart. That's ridiculous.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118083524#Comment_118083524

There's a known issue with steel and paint used in Mercs in the 1990s-2000s.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118121771#Comment_118121771

Problem with older cars is often they can't keep up with modern traffic or braking. You have to drive them with a bigger margin for error.

Depends entirely on the older car and how old(and bollexed) it is. Sure, a 1970's 1300 Ford Escort is going to struggle, but anything even vaguely "sporty" from the 90's on is not going to have any issue keeping up with modern traffic. A 90's Beemer is going to be perfectly adequate keeping up the pace. Indeed anything a bit upmarket in the range will walk away from many new econoboxes and SUV's. Braking can sometimes be a different matter, but again I remember clearly noticing a major improvement in braking in the 90's*, plus the majority of cars from say the mid 90's on will have ABS. Though the older car and keeping up with modern traffic is a bit of a meme out there and I've been asked that of my older car more than once. Including from a bloke driving a Golf diesel.

*drive many, if not most cars from pre 1980 the brakes or lack thereof can come as a real shock. Some were little more than a switch for the red lights at the back.

Flinty997

By keeping up I mean the whole thing. A regular car from the 90s with skinny tires no abs, and maybe drums at the back. It can't accelerate or stop like a modern car or indeed corner at speed, even on a banked flyover turn.

Busy wet morning on ring road like the M50 in heavy aggressive traffic. I felt our 19yr car 2nd couldn't cut it. I switched to a 10yr old car and it's a massive difference. In fairness is a more capable car, with great handling. But the general point remains.

Something sporty might be still ok as a daily. But I know my old late 80s GTI was 118bhp. It couldn't stay with most modern cars, in any department. Except feel and enjoyment. Modern cars can be numb.

Nothing ever disintegrated on our old cars though. Even the 19yr had only tiny bit of rust starting in the sills. Easily welded up.

BrianD3

I have a Megane I (1.4 petrol 95 bhp) and a Megane III (1.5 diesel 86 bhp) and the newer car is indeed noticeably better in everyday traffic, on a country road, on a motorway. Much more "planted", bigger mirrors, better driving position. Only 10 mm difference in tyre width, I think the wider track on the newer car is a big factor.

BrianD3

Re: crash testing getting tougher, now the US IIHS has changed its side impact. As of this month it has over 80% more kinetic energy plus the barrier is stiffer. The Honda HR-V which was rated good using the old protocol is now rated poor.

Old test (in use 2003-2021)

New test

HBC08

https://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/most-motorists-wont-ever-buy-a-petrol-or-diesel-car-again-41035848.html

This is paid propaganda at this stage.

However many cars were sold in ireland this week or next week or next year 2/3 of them will not be EVs.

colm_mcm

From the article

”Almost two-thirds of drivers have decided they will not buy another petrol or diesel car, a major new survey reveals.

But rather than buy an electric vehicle, a substantial number will opt for hybrid instead, the AA study discovered”

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118144424#Comment_118144424

Of all the cars that'll change hands this week will 2/3 of them be hybrid or EV?

Is he talking about new cars only? That's not mentioned in the article?

I don't know how this nonsense isn't challenged.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118144468#Comment_118144468

You are challenging it.

I can't find the AA survey anywhere online but if as stated it was over 8000 motorists surveyed that is a pretty big sample.

It appears not to be about all the cars that changed hands this or any week and of course 2/3 will not be hybrid or EV because they are not there in those numbers for anyone to buy.

All those diesels bought over the last 10+ years have to work their way through the market.

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118146196#Comment_118146196

So what is he talking about?

It sounds like easily provable complete nonsense.

If anyone of us takes a look around garage forecourts you can clearly see that ev/hybrids don't make up 2/3 of cars that are going to be sold,I'd wager they don't make up 5%.

It's total bollixoligy ,it's blatant,its not reality,but nobody seems to challenge the narrative.