Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

hold my beer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121202854#Comment_121202854

Your posts are needlessly negative (weren't you calling heat pumps a great lie or similar recently). There's absolutely nothing to indicate there will be substantial servicing and repair bills on a solar installation.

40wattbulb

Looking for some advice on this quote

12 x 430 Watt Panels

5 kW Huawei  Total Inverter Rating

No Eddi - Have solar tubes already for water

No Battery

Net Price €6,200.00

DC999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121202724#Comment_121202724

Now you are making simplistic statements. The bulk of a solar install cost is down to Irish labour costs. That is the Ireland we live in.

The panels are dumb devices. There is largely nothing to break on them. No moving parts.

My 700 quid inverter could die, but there is a warranty for 5 years. And I would have to pay labour to install the warranty replacement. That cost is far far less than 'half of the original investment'.

And you're ignoring the saving on electrical bills with solar. Again, being simplistic in your argument.

I haven't seen the article you mention but I can only talk about my positive experience of solar.

You're clearer anti solar and heat pump.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121203377#Comment_121203377

I'm anti disinformation. I would love solar and heatpumps to be the magic bullet, but they're not. Solar installations are hugely overpriced. Heatpump performance is hugely overstated. You can believe what you like.

In a single sentence I criticised a graph which showed a 30 year return based on zero costs post installation This is a fantasy in any industry. I'd happily install solar if costd were not so grant demand inflated. I'd install a heat pump if it made economic sense to me, and environmental sense in that the gas burned to power the ESB was less than the gas used directly in a home boiler. I bored of doing the math and presenting them. People can believe what they want.

hold my beer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204212#Comment_121204212

Who said anything about them being magic bullets? And literally everyone on this thread says solar is overpriced at the minute, but it still makes sense for a lot of people. Some of us are waiting in the wings for a reasonable price.

HotSwap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204375#Comment_121204375

The materials are very affordable:

And there are deals going on for buy 3 inverters get one free. Some great deals out there if you shop multiple installers and play them against one another. They know what they are asking is over the top and have no problem dropping prices to win business; Espically now that people are starting to be a bit more careful with what they spend.

Eleusis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204442#Comment_121204442

can you link that site?

ratracer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121191080#Comment_121191080

How did you get on with the survey?

I think I know the company as I’ve got the same quote, yet after spending an hour with the company owner/ surveyor and a promise I’d get a detailed quote in a day or so, I subsequently received nothing back from them. I tried to contact him by phone, text, email with no reply. I even called the office and was told I would receive the quote by the end of the next day, but still nothing!!

I liked them and reckon I would have gone with them, but looks like I may have dodged a bullet.

AmpMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121204442#Comment_121204442

Can you link to that seller please?

Black_Knight

What's the going rate for 12 panels, inverter, and an Eddi these days?

I've been told €7300 after grants. Trying to suss out the kWp and inverter spec now (relative is getting quotes)

Chicken Run

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121215421#Comment_121215421

Really well tbh - the lad that came out was very knowledgeable and thorough and took everything into account... looking at our relatively low energy consumption he also made a few recommendations. Not patronising and no sales pressure, quick enough to respond to my questions too.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121219123#Comment_121219123

panels are usually around 400w, 12 panels would be 4.8kw, I know with scale you can get to 1k/1kwp or even below it, but id be looking to get a bit closer to 5 than 7.3k

Louche Lad

We've had the following quote (€8.5k after SEAI grant, for 3.4kwp system) but no idea what to make of it. Can anyone advise whether it's good, bad, whatever?

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graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121220135#Comment_121220135

Need to have 4kwp to get the full grant

chatb0x1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121219527#Comment_121219527

I got a quote from what looks like the same company a few days ago. 500 cheaper with more panels. most of my quotes I got are similar or slightly less.

PressTheButton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121219527#Comment_121219527

Some comments:

• Input your figures into previously mentioned solar quote analyser by David Hunt. Note caveat: Smaller installs (<4kWp) tend to be more expensive than guide price. http://davidhunt.ie/solar/
• SEAI grant for 3.4 kWp would be €2,220 (not €2,100 per quote). The grant is paid on a pro rata basis (0-2 kWp Solar PV Systems €900 per kWp installed; 2-4 kWp Solar PV systems €300 per kWp installed). https://www.seai.ie/grants/home-energy-grants/solar-electricity-grant/Solar-PV-Scheme-Guide.pdf (accessed 11 Oct. 2023)
• Quote includes a 5.1 kWh battery, not individually priced. Ask installer for quote without battery. Crunch numbers and decide for yourself if battery—at price offered—represents, among other considerations, a good return on the investment.
• Some great advice here if you haven’t already come across: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058234646/interested-in-solar-pv-read-this-faq-first#latest

Louche Lad

Further to my earlier request, I've had some sample quotes from another provider. I have not yet had the time to analyse them properly, though I do note they have some much cheaper options than €8.5k (net of grant), but most of the terms mean nothing to me. .Yes, I will try to understand the Boards FAQ re panels.)

Option #1

Non Battery System

4.0Wp of modules kitted to a Renac String Inverter

10 x Bisol Premium 400W Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*

Bisol Mounting system on a *Slate Roof (*Price may vary on roof type)

1 x Projoy Fire Safety Switch

AC Switchgear

Renac 4kW String Inverter

Costing

€6,575 Final Cost after Before Incentive

-€2,400 (SEAI Grant)

€4,175 Final Cost after Grant Incentive

Option #2

Non Battery System

5.2kWp of modules kitted to a Renac 5kW String Inverter

13 x Bisol Premium 400W Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*

Bisol Mounting system on a *Slate Roof (*Price may vary on roof type)

1 x Projoy Fire Safety Switch

AC Switchgear

Renac 5kW String Inverter

Costing

€7,550 Final Cost after Before Incentive

-€2,400 (SEAI Grant)

€5,150 Final Cost after Grant Incentive

Option #3

Non Battery System

6.4kWp of modules kitted to a Renac 5kW String Inverter

16 x Bisol Premium 400W Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*

Bisol Mounting system on a *Slate Roof (*Price may vary on roof type)

1 x Projoy Fire Safety Switch

AC Switchgear

Renac 5kW String Inverter

Costing

€8,400 Final Cost after Before Incentive

-€2,400 (SEAI Grant)

€6000 Final Cost after Grant Incentive

Option #4

Battery System (Alpha)

5.2kWp of modules kitted to 10.1kWh battery storage

13 x Bisol Premium 400W Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*

Bisol Mounting system on a *Slate or Tile Roof (*Price may vary on roof type)

1 x Projoy Fire Safety Switch

AC Switchgear

Alpha 5kWp Inverter kitted to 10.1kWh storage capacity

Costing

€12,700 Final Cost after Before Incentive

-€2,400 (SEAI Grant)

€10,300 Final Cost after Grant Incentive

Option #5

Battery System (Alpha)

6.4kWp of modules kitted to 10.1kWh battery storage

16 x Bisol Premium 400W Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*

Bisol Mounting system on a *Slate Roof (*Price may vary on roof type)

1 x Projoy Fire Safety Switch

AC Switchgear

Alpha 5kWp Inverter kitted to 10.1kWh storage capacity

Costing

€13,400 Final Cost after Before Incentive

-€2,400 (SEAI Grant)

€11,000 Final Cost after Grant Incentive

OPTIONAL EXTRAS

Warranty Extension for the Alpha Inverter from 5 years to 10 years (Recommended): €350

Change Over Switch: €1000 (To facilitate the use of the battery system to run your house during a power outage)

EDDI Hot Water Diverter: €650

Zappi Car Charger: €1450

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121225097#Comment_121225097

There is a grant of 600 for the ev charge point, totally separate from the solar grant. (You can only claim it once per mprn)

nephster

Quick question on whether a mark-up for splitting panels is usual, and if so, how much might be deemed reasonable.

I'm attempting to get quotes for various options around a 2x5 panel system (so 4.2ish kW panels), as my roof requires an east/west split. Either with 5/10kW battery or battery-free but with a hybrid inverter. These have so far come in massively over anything like the David Hunt calculator spits out.

One installer has very detailed example quotes on their site, dated September '23, and one is the exact same system they have specced for me for a battery system, but... over €2000 less than in the quote they have given me. The battery-free option is a staggering 3K less in their example than in my quote, although admittedly the example spec has a smaller, standard inverter.

So - is 2K warranted for the extra labour and parts to install 2x5 rather that 1x10 panels?

bamayang

19 x 410 Panels. 7.7KW

Zappi car charger

No Battery

€9,200 after both grants.

MacDanger

Based in the NW and getting quotes for a new build (so no elec work or eddi required but no grant available either) on an E-W split:

18 x Luxor panels (7.47kW)

1 x SolaX hybrid inverter

2 x 3kW SolaX batteries

Coming in at 14650 (or 10950 w/o batteries). Seems to be around mid-range based on the David Hunt calculator.

The only other quote we got was ~ 2500 more expensive so will get one more and see from there

HappySolar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121227090#Comment_121227090

That isn't a bad quote, but do keep shopping round.

I had one for 8.8kW system, 10.1kW battery for ~15,200 before grant.

Doesn't include eddi or ber but still fairly happy with that price

nephster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121226397#Comment_121226397

To answer my own question, from the installer on why the quote was 2K extra:

"This is due to the division on the panels which require an extra fireman switch. I also added scaffolding, as your house is next to a road, and I didn't want to risk our installers"

Some mention is then made of preferring to have these costs upfront (although none of this was detailed), price is subject to survey, scaffolding might not then be required after the survey etc. etc. But I've yet to ever have a quote that came down on closer inspection by a supplier. I look forward to the day that happens :)

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121229338#Comment_121229338

What a rip off. A DC fireman's switch is only about €150, and has enough terminals to isolate two strings of panels, so you only need one. Gangsters.

https://solartricity.ie/electrical-fire-safety-switch/

HotSwap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121229338#Comment_121229338

DM me. I’ve a spare projoy dc cutoff that I never used. Good price if your interested.

chatb0x1

I seem to be getting quotes that are a good bit above the calculator. - also is there anything I should avoid in quotes below.

Lombardo123

Hi All

First quote came through today. Usage is approx 3600 kwH per year and so is under the average.

• E/W orientation.
• 8 TUV Nord (?) panels so 3.36KwH setup.
• 2.5 kwH battery.
• Inverter.. presume 2.5kwH

Grant of 2100 available. Total quote 9400

Cost to me 7,300

I also need to pay for BER.

Questions:

• Havent seen these panels mentioned? Guy mentioned they are certified German panels?
• I hadnt done my research before including battery in the quote, does this become any more competitive if the battery is removed, if i got say 1200 off for that? It seems overpriced based on calculator, even acknowledging the smaller system being at a premium.

pron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234607#Comment_121234607

TUV Nord is a standards body : https://www.tuev-nord.de/en/company/energy/renewables/photovoltaics/

They don't make panels, but they will certify the quality - so that's a positive, they could be any random manufacturer underneath though - Most Aldi/Lidl tools special offers are certified by one of the TUV bodies for example .. your mileage may vary

Lombardo123

Thanks, I'll request the actual panels. Seems off they wouldn't be mentioned.

Even if I assume average, quote feels high based on calcs and other quotes here

potsy11

Hi All, been following this thread and got a quote recently. I'm slowly learning what all the technical terms mean.

The company i had out were pretty professorial. 2 guys came out and measured the roof and went into some detail regarding pros and cons of battery or not, Eddi installtion, power optimisers etc.

We are a family of 5. 2 adults 3 primary going kids. I work from home 2 days a week and wife works part time and is in the house after kids come home. I usage is just under national average. Say 4500-5000 units per year.

We are SSE facing to the rear and there is no shadow on the roof from chimney or trees.

Quote: 5.5kWp Smart Solar PV System

13 x Glass to Glass Bi Facial or similar, Mono Crystalline 420Wp (505Wp with Rear Side) PV Module (with 35-year warranty output & 35-year warranty product) – EU Made

1 x SolarEdge Inverter (with 12 years warranty)

13 x SolarEdge S440 Power Optimiser (with Arc protection & 25 years warranty)

1 x SolarEdge Import / Export meter

1 x Eddi/SolarEdge Hot Water Diverter (with 3 years Labour and Parts Warranty)

1 x 4 Pole Fireman Switch

1 x Electrical Materials, Fuses, etc...

1 x Full Install and Grid Commission

1 x Wi-Fi Kit and Free Monitoring Portal for Life

1 x SEAI Grant Paperwork Management Including BER Assessment for the Grant.

5 Years Labour Warranty + 5 Years Comprehensive Parts Service

€12,100 (ex vat and grant)

€2400 Grant

€500 discount

€9,200 Overall cost.