The Omicron variant

amandstu

We have the capability to design and distribute a new vaccine tailored to the Omicron variant -might take 100 days I think.

Would that be a good idea or would there be downsides to that tactic?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405780#Comment_118405780

No, some crazy site's interpretation of German data is drawing an incorrect (biased) conclusion. Any vaccine efficacy calculations that include people unable to be vaccinated (kids) will always be incorrect.

boetstark

Just looking for people opinions.

I was notified as a close contact on Monday 27th. I started to develop a sore throat on Tuesday so got a PCR test on Wednesday which came back negative. I did feel the swab hardly touched my throat, I have a terrible gag reflex. Same with nostril.

Thing have been feeling worse since Friday. Headache, totally stuffed nose and dry cough. Antigen test is negative but my gp wants me to have another PCR test. I'm fully vaccinated, early fifties with no underlying condition. Could this be a cold / flu. I'm afraid to return to work as some colleagues in a small office are medically vulnerable, and would probably freak out. Love to know at this stage if it's covid or not 100%.

Happy 2022 to all

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405876#Comment_118405876

Follow the GP's advice and get another test. And don't go to work. Work from home or call in sick - because you're sick. Whether you pass covid or flu to your colleagues, you're not doing your boss any favours.

2 years ago it was normal to go to work and tell your colleagues you have the flu, but now it's different. It might go back to the old way where we went to work with flu, but things are different for now.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405896#Comment_118405896

Repeating it over and over does not make it more true.

You've taken this from some virus-ridden website because you are incapable of reading and understanding the paper itself, and you are assuming that the conclusion drawn on this virus-ridden website is correct only because it suits your conspiracy-driven agenda.

A basic understanding of vaccines would tell you that what you said makes absolutely no sense, and a Junior Cert scientist student would laugh at you if you said it.

But yes, I, as a scientist, am probably incorrect about this scientific paper and you, as, well, whatever you are, are instead correct.

I'm sure it will be breaking news any moment now.

Stheno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405916#Comment_118405916

Agreed get another test

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405924#Comment_118405924

"Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome" from the COVID vaccines🤣, @[Deleted User], you are so far over the shark, the shark is a dot to you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405924#Comment_118405924

Your telling some other poster a few pages back to just keep taking boosters told me all I needed to know about your being a scientist..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405957#Comment_118405957

Yes. As the scientific community agrees that we should continue to take boosters as long as the evidence suggests that it is beneficial, that it indeed what myself and the scientific community say. I'm glad you have come to your senses.

Thank you for addressing nothing in my post as always.

Would you like to add some more posts that will eventually be deleted for spreading misinformation, or would you prefer to save time and disappear back to your fellow brethren in the conspiracy theories forum?

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405751#Comment_118405751

For the craic read the comments to see full mental cases on view. 😁

Shilock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405916#Comment_118405916

What I think is funny there's a lot of people who suffer from hay fever or just a bit chesty in damp weather. If someone who was a bit chesty the odd morning are they expected to isolate and get their noses drilled for covid regularly, imagine if this was the new normal....

Anyone who suffers from anxiety or hypochondriacs would be riddled with fear and constantly catastrophizing their judgement. And you'll always get a nutter or control freak in a household or on the job telling everyone to go get tested ....

It's all a bit nuts isn't it.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406705#Comment_118406705

Well, right now it's playing to hypochondriacs. But it also happens to be the sensible thing to do at the moment. Once things calm down it might go back to normal, and it will certainly go back towards normal.

I doubt it will be normal to go to work and casually tell the people you're getting a cuppa with that you have the flu. I think that might be a lasting legacy of covid. But for now it makes sense to err on the side of caution and not go to work and get a covid test if you have covid/flu symptoms.

Shilock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406742#Comment_118406742

I think it's a great thing that people should stay at home if they've a respiratory illness. And about time that there's leniency towards people who need time off for colds etc

I can operate at probably 80% if I've a cold, the flu wipes the floor with me. I'm basically man flu +++ just totally thrown down and zero energy...hot and sweaty.

Then again you'll have wasters who'll take advantage and just call and say they're sniffly, and if they get paid sick leave it'll be a good excuse to lie low and chill out...

All the variables get me, I wish I was one dimensional or black and white lol

corkie

Omicron is displacing delta science

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLbJ0H8zdc

Ignore this post if you don't like Dr. John Campbell's content?

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405544#Comment_118405544

You may have missed the point that person was imagining.

Imagine and what if is what made this situation look much worse than it really was. And they want to "imagine what if" again.

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405876#Comment_118405876

Even if your another pcr come back negative you should stay home. Why would you want to give flu or cold to as you say medically vulnerable people in the office?

Problem here lies that if you are in low paid job without medical benefits if it is not covid then there is no enhanced illness benefit and classic illness benefit does not cover first week anyway. Payment is also delayed quite severely due to so many cases they have to deal with.

And if you are in low paid job and have misfortune to rent privately then you can not afford not to go to work even though you do have flu or cold. People in that position can be seen daily in their jobs as they simply have to carry on despite that some posters try to put some social stigma or shame on that.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407175#Comment_118407175

I think Omicron made things much worse. I don't think anyone imagined Omicron into existence any more than they imagined the end of the pandemic into existence.

What exactly do you mean?

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407202#Comment_118407202

Yeah being in a low paid without paid sick leave etc like the gig economy or without guaranteed hours, complicates the issue. But the principle is the same and someone with covid/flu symptoms should stay home at the moment.

The poster didn't say anything about their work circumstances said say stay home.

Bikerguy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406705#Comment_118406705

You nailed it.....i mean you literally just said whats going on deep down there...

Thanks

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407017#Comment_118407017

I like this guy.

JTMan

Interesting reasoning as to why we are seeing more children in hospital with the Omicron wave than prior waves.

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1477371963811188742

igCorcaigh

Is this true? The antigen tests I bought from Tesco instructed me to nasal swab only, not the throat.

https://twitter.com/DrDavidRSewell/status/1477687359726620676

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118408079#Comment_118408079

Presumably they were ordered before Omicron emerged

deholleboom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405403#Comment_118405403

At this point all i can say is whatever anybody has to say about SarsCov2 better be either in hindsight or with actual up to date data instead of seeking to 'inform the public about viruses', standing on one leg and juggling a few balls and feeling very smart about themselves..

Shilock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407702#Comment_118407702

If I knew two years ago that all this was going to happen I'd have invested in companies that make the test kits. They sold out quicker than bread and toilet paper during the 18 hour snow storm a few years ago. The one that was going to melt away because the weather satellites showed a mild front coming in behind. But yet people were worried about white bread and wiping their ass over the next 18 Hours or day.

Now people are stocking up on test kits and probably like a new religion, religiously testing themselves, spouse and kid's every second day.

It's all nut's.

boetstark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407202#Comment_118407202

Luckily I'm in a well paid job in pharma industry. Getting vibes from our manager re if its not covid I'm needed back ASAP, specialised work and production needs.

I have gotten the flu vaccine and I'm really baffled if this isn't covid why has it knocked me for six

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118408222#Comment_118408222

I don't pay any attention to the latest research. I note what people any about the latest research (good news and bad) and wait for the preponderance of evidence before even thinking I know what's happening.

The cutting edge evidence is interesting to an extent as it indicates what might be the case, but I think that's where all these chats go wrong. There's so much research that you could always find evidence to support your prejudice. And then when it doesn't become the concensus view, you can move on to the next piece of brand new research that supports your prejudice. Or you can just wait and see what's actually happening and what the consensus view is and how it evolves.

The latter is a bit boring by comparison but it's much more likely to be genuinely informed.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118408337#Comment_118408337

Testing everfew days is not really nuts right now. If you have the tests, now is the time to use them.

I've been moving between my mother's house and my parents in law's house over Christmas so we've been testing every few days and on the morning when we move between houses.

I'm really surprised that the term 'patriotic' hasn't been used in relation to this. It's a small thing you can do for your fellow citizen to make sure you're not spreading covid. The more covid the more likelihood of greater restrictions and all the harm they bring.

It feels like terms associated with patriotism are used by people who want to cause harm and be against others. This seems like a small patriotic thing by our can do for your fellow citizen and for the country as a whole. I can't see why anyone would think it's nuts to do your but to ensure you're not spreading covid right now.

Shilock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118408398#Comment_118408398

If you've all been vaccinated what's the story then ?

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118408538#Comment_118408538

Yes, I'm vaccinated and boostered. Its about the difference between me getting sick from covid and me passing it to someone else who would be more likely to get sick from covid. I want to know if I have it so I can isolate and not pass it to my fellow citizen and the people in my mother's house and my parents in law's house. I'm not really worried about being sick myself as I'm relatively young fit and healthy so lower risk of being badly sick myself.

Didn't you get that from my post? What did you think i meant?