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December 2021 Boards weather forecast contest

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    MAX 14.4 recorded at Moorepark 11th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Max prob 14c now

    Rainfall very little till New Year as weather goes dead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After two weeks ...

    IMT on 5.8 C, the past week averaged 6.2 which is 0.5 above normal. For both the month and the past week, Shannon has been running notably higher than the rest, the two-week mean there is 7.0, the average for the other four was 5.4 C.

    MAX 14.4 and MIN -2.1 (14th at Mullingar)

    PRC 105% of normal, this past week rather dry at 67% of normal. With quite a dry forecast it has to be added that we have only guaranteed an outcome of around 50% with that 105% in the first two weeks. If the rest of the month managed as little as 25% then the outcome would be 60%.

    SUN is now at 115% with this past week very close to normal (99% from 595/600).

    Current GFS prediction for 25th is for a cool and overcast pattern with temperatures rather steady around 5 C with no strong indications for snow anywhere on 24th or 25th. The GEM on the other hand was colder with east winds offering some hope of local snowfalls. The 12z ECM had not reached the 25th by the time I posted this, may edit in something from that later.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After three weeks ...

    IMT now 6.0, the third week average was 6.3 which is 0.8 above normal. Guidance has been all over the place recently but some suggestions of a very mild end to the month, this could end up a bit higher possibly.

    MAX 14.4, MIN -2.1. Neither of these are settled yet.

    PRC at 73 per cent of normal after a dry week (only 8% on average); however, today will anchor what looks to be a more normal sort of week so that the outcome for the month may be closer to normal than this report.

    SUN at about 113 per cent of normal, with this past week 110.5 per cent (663/600) despite Cork being fully overcast. This average could slump a bit given the forecasts of mostly cloudy skies ahead.

    The current numerical output for Dublin on the 25th from GFS 06z show the max and min to be 8 and 6 C.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Good morning, hope you had an enjoyable Christmas. Dublin had a narrow range of temperatures, 6.3 to 8.9, and of course the other part of the forecast was NO. Will post the scoring for the bonus in a few minutes, looks like the closest forecasts were MrSkinner and Bsal at 9.0 for the max, and Kindred Spirit was closest on the minimum at 4.0; nobody in the field quite foresaw such a narrow range of temperature, two had 2.9 and 3.1 between their high and their low (that being MTC and waterways) but we were looking for highs closer to the actual low. Will post the full scoring in a few minutes.

    Post edited by M.T. Cranium on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Here's a summary of the BONUS scoring then ... all add three points as shown, except those names with an asterisk who predicted YES for the snow portion. They remain at the points level. The groups at different points levels are separated in part by error differentials which were very similar in the larger groups near the top.

    Scoring is based on your total error for max and min added together. That is what the numbers in brackets denote, max error then min error. Everyone in the field was at least somewhat below the actual average of 7.6, all were below the minimum and most were below the maximum.

    10 pts (to 13) __ Bsal (0.1, 2.8) MrSkinner (0.1, 3.3) Pauldry (1.5, 2.5) MrStonewall (0.2, 4.0) Normal (0.4, 3.8)

    9 pts (to 12) __ waterways (1.9, 2.4) Tae laidir (1.6, 2.8) Kindred Spirit (2.1, 2.3) JPmarn (0.6, 3.8)

    8 pts (to 11) __ Joe Public (1.1, 3.8) 200motels (0.7, 4.2) Adam240610 (0.9, 4.3) John mac (2.3, 3.1) Con Sensus (1.1, 4.3)

    7 pts (to 10) __ M.T. Cranium* (2.7, 3.0), Appledrop (0.9, 5.3), sunflower3 (0.7, 5.8)

    6 pts (to 9) ___ Gonzo (2.5, 4.8), Artane2002 (1.6, 5.8)

    5 pts (to 8) ___ DOCARCH (1.8, 7.1)

    4 pts (to 7) ___ Mickey Mantle* (3.8, 7.5) sryanbruen (5.1, 7.0)

    3 pts (to 6) ___ Esposito (3.5, 10.1) Dasa29 (3.9, 10.3)

    2 pts (to 5) ___ Bazler*(6.4, 9.8) dacogawa* (5.8, 10.7)

    1 pt (to 4 ) ___ BLIZZARD7* (8.2, 11.6) Danno* (7.5, 13.0)

    -----------------------------------------------------------

    Now, it would appear that MIN is unlikely to drop much as tonight will apparently be the last chance for a frost, the MIN is already -2.1 and I can't see it going much lower than that. If we need minimum progression for MIN scoring, then the top scores would go to Bsal (-4.0) and DOCARCH (-4.3) with MrSkinner at -5.0. Unless the MIN drops to -3.8 we will need minimum progression anyway; the only thing that could change would be an outcome of -3.8 to -4.5 which would trigger the reduced version with some raw score at or above 18/20. Anything lower than -4.5 would probably negate the need for it.

    MAX could actually go up from 14.4 and the IMT is likely to drift up a bit too, most likely finish 6.5. That would necessitate a minor boost, so the scoring will be from 6.3 if the outcome is 6.3 or higher.

    There were heavy rainfalls at several of our grid locations yesterday; that may push PRC up close to normal or even a bit above, with the other amounts that we already know plus what appears likely in the next few days. Johnstown had 58.9 mm and Oak Park 36.6 mm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Thanks for the update M.T, Merry Christmas!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After four weeks ...

    IMT on 6.4 C, fourth week average was 7.7 which is 2.4 above normal.

    MAX 14.4 and MIN -2.1

    PRC is now right on normal (100%) with the fourth week rather wet at 181%.

    SUN 105% and the fourth week a bit cloudier at 81% (486/600).

    BONUS was scored in a previous post.

    MIN will require the use of minimum progression to generate scores.

    MAX could gain at least slightly and IMT likely to rise to around 6.7 but will be scored from 6.3 whatever it gets up to, meanwhile PRC likely to edge closer to 105-110%. SUN could maintain a slight edge on normal as any small amounts today and Friday would cancel out what's likely to be an overcast day tomorrow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    MAX has edged up to 14.5 (Moorepark 29th).



  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    And edged up again to 14.6 at Casement yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT soared in the last three days and finished on 6.9 C. PRC also gained and looks to be around 110% just from a rough check, will probably work it out more precisely and get a sun estimate as it would be at least the 4th before we see a Monthly Summary. So for some temporary scoring I will work out those values. So many hours of mild weather, you'd think it could have edged up past 15 somewhere but apparently not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    MIN was -23 (here) does that count?



  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Approximate Scoring for December 2021

    IMT was 6.9, scored from 6.3 as a form of maximum progression (highest forecast 6.1).

    MAX was 14.6, MIN -2.1 (Min scored from min. progression)*

    PRC was 110% and SUN est 95% (last three days barely one-third of normal applied to 100% after 28d)

    BONUS already scored from 8.9, 6.3 NO (scores incl 3 pts for no snow, * did not get those 3 pts)


    FORECASTER ___________ IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN _ BONUS


    Bsal ___________________ 18 _ 16 _ 19*_ 15 _ 09 ___ 13 ______ 90

    MrSkinner ___ (-1) _______ 22 _ 16 _ 17*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 13 _ 89-1= 88

    Kindred Spirit ____________16 _ 19 _ 17*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 12 ______ 85

    DOCARCH ___ (-2) _______ 23 _ 18 _ 18*_ 08 _ 10 ___ 08 _ 85-2= 83

    Tae laidir _______________ 20 _ 12 _ 14*_ 13 _ 09 ___ 12 ______ 80


    ___ Con Sensus _________ 13 _ 18 _ 11*_ 15 _ 10 ___ 11 ______ 78


    Artane2002 _____________ 15 _ 16 _ 16*_ 12 _ 08 ___ 09 ______ 76

    Mr Stonewall ____________ 13 _ 16 _ 08*_ 14 _ 10 ___ 13 ______ 74

    200motels ______________ 14 _ 13 _ 13*_ 14 _ 09 ___ 11 ______ 74

    Appledrop ______________ 09 _ 19 _ 15*_ 12 _ 08 ___ 10 ______ 73

    Pauldry _________________13 _ 19 _ 11*_ 08 _ 09 ___ 13 ______ 73

    Sunflower3 _____________ 10 _ 16 _ 12*_ 13 _ 09 ___ 10 ______ 70

    Joe Public _______________18 _ 18 _ 06*_ 08 _ 09 ___ 11 ______ 70

    John mac _______________14 _ 06 _ 16*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 11 ______ 68

    adam240610 __ (-2) ______10 _ 17 _ 11*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 11 _70-2= 68


    ___ NormaL _____________15 _ 11 _ 08*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 13 ______ 68


    waterways ___ (-2) _______15 _ 11 _ 11*_ 11 _ 08 ___ 12 _ 68-2= 66

    sryanbruen _____________ 10 _ 17 _ 06*_ 13 _ 09 ___ 07 ______ 62

    M. T. Cranium ___________ 11 _ 13 _ 07*_ 15 _ 08 ___ 07* _____ 61

    Jpmarn ________________ 13 _ 16 _ 09*_ 00 _ 09 ___ 12 ______ 59

    Gonzo _________________ 05 _ 15 _ 05*_ 14 _ 08 ___ 09 ______ 56

    Esposito ________________15 _ 13 _ 07*_ 10 _ 03 ___ 06 ______ 54

    Dasa29 ________________ 12 _ 00 _ 12*_ 10 _ 08 ___ 06 ______ 48

    Dacogawa ______________ 09 _ 15 _ 03*_ 00 _ 07 ___ 02* _____ 36

    Mickey Mantle __ (-5) _____11 _ 00 _ 03*_ 11 _ 09 ___ 04* _38-5=33

    Bazler ______ (-1) _______ 03 _ 00 _ 04*_ 14 _ 09 ___ 02* _32-1=31

    Danno _________________ 00 _ 13 _ 02*_ 07 _ 00 ___ 01* _____ 23

    BLIZZARD7 __ (-3) _______ 00 _ 01 _ 01*_ 08 _ 03 ___ 01* _14-3=11

    ... scoring to be confirmed or adjusted on 4th-5th Jan when possible to check MS ...

    ... will probably hold off on the annual final update until that time, looks to be a tight finish perhaps and I just wanted to confirm my SUN estimate and make sure we didn't miss anything along the way for MAX or MIN (it rarely happens with so many watching) ...

    ... scoring generally quite good (thanks to our friend Min Progression), the top raw scores by the way would have been 66 (also Bsal); Bsal had one point for MIN and everyone else had zero (raw scores), and most of you had the extra six points (touchdown) for IMT, so to get your raw score just subtract your MIN score plus six from your total. Also of course 20 out of 26 scores had the three point Christmas bonus so the totals for most are out of 103 possible.

    ===========================================

    (actual forecasts)


    FORECASTER ___________ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN ___ Dub(A) 25th _snow


    DOCARCH ___ (-2) _______ 6.1 _ 14.8 _ -4.3 _ 090 _ 095 ___ 7.2 ,-0.8 _ No

    MrSkinner ___ (-1) _______ 6.0 _ 15.0 _ -5.0 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 9.0 , 3.0 _ No

    Tae laidir _______________ 5.8 _ 15.4 _ -5.4 _ 103 _ 100 ___10.1 , 3.5 _ No

    Bsal ___________________ 5.6 _ 15.0 _ -4.0 _ 110 _ 092 ___ 9.0 , 3.5 _ No

    Joe Public _______________5.6 _ 14.4 _ -6.9 _ 130 _ 088 ___ 7.8 , 2.5 _ No

    Kindred Spirit ____________5.4 _ 14.5 _ -5.1 _ 115 _ 100 ___11.0 , 4.0 _ No

    waterways ___ (-2) _______5.3 _ 15.5 _ -6.0 _ 123 _ 103 ___ 7.0 , 3.9 _ No

    Artane2002 _____________ 5.3 _ 15.0 _ -5.2 _ 115 _ 105 ___ 7.3 , 0.5 _ No

    Esposito ________________ 5.3 _ 13.9 _ -6.7 _ 095 _ 130 ___ 5.4 ,-3.8 _ No


    ___ Normal ______________5.3 _ 15.5 _ -6.5 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 8.5 , 2.5 _ No


    John mac _______________ 5.2 _ 16.0 _ -5.2 _ 102 _ 098 ___11.2 , 3.2 _ No

    200motels ______________ 5.2 _ 13.9 _ -5.9 _ 112 _ 091 ___ 8.2 , 2.1 _ No

    Pauldry _________________5.1 _ 14.5 _ -6.0 _ 130 _ 090 ___10.4 , 3.8 _ No

    Mr Stonewall ____________ 5.1 _ 14.2 _ -6.4 _ 112 _ 096 ___ 8.7 , 2.3 _ No


    ___ Con Sensus _________ 5.1 _ 14.8 _ -6.0 _ 110 _ 096 ___ 7.8 , 2.0 _ No


    Jpmarn _________________5.1 _ 14.2 _ -6.2 _ 160 _ 090 ___ 8.3 , 2.5 _ No

    Dasa29 _________________5.0 _ 12.5 _ -6.0 _ 095 _ 105 ___ 5.0 ,-4.0 _ No

    M. T. Cranium ____________4.9 _ 15.3 _ -6.7 _ 110 _ 105 ___ 6.2 , 3.3 _ yes Knock

    Mickey Mantle __ (new --) __4.9 _ 12.3 _-10.1 _ 099 _ 100 ___ 5.1 _-1.2 _ yes

    Sunflower3 ______________4.8 _ 15.0 _ -5.8 _ 105 _ 090 ___ 8.2, 0.5 _ No

    sryanbruen _____________ 4.8 _ 14.9 _ -6.9 _ 115 _ 090 ___ 3.8 ,-0.7 _ No

    adam240610 __ (-2) ______4.8 _ 14.9 _ -6.0 _ 100 _ 088 ___ 8.0 , 2.0 _ No

    Dacogawa ______________ 4.7 _ 15.1 _-10.5_ 170 _ 080 ___ 3.1 , -4.4 _ yes Casement

    Appledrop ______________ 4.7 _ 14.5 _ -5.3 _ 100 _ 105 ___ 8.0 , 1.0 _ No

    Gonzo _________________ 4.3 _ 15.1 _ -7.2 _ 112 _ 086 ___ 6.4 , 1.5 _ No

    Bazler ______ (-1) _______4.1 _ 11.2 _ -8.2 _ 112 _ 090 ___ 2.5 ,-3.5 _ Yes Knock

    BLIZZARD7 __ (-3) ______ 3.3 _ 12.7 _-13.7_ 090 _ 130 ___ 0.7 , -5.3 _ Yes Casement

    Danno _________________2.7 _ 13.9 _-10.7_ 085 _ 145 ___ 1.4 ,-6.7 _ yes Ballyhaise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Still planning to wait for tomorrow's confirmations of our scoring data before posting the annual scoring results. However, thought we could probably start off with this feature ... which may require some minor adjustments if the DEC scores change. The order in this table is based on total scores not best 10/12 so it doesn't necessarily reveal the main contest order of finish to be posted (I hope) around mid-day your time tomorrow (to perhaps early evening depending on my ups and downs, I am quite ancient as you know and my sleep patterns are rather random these days) ...


    Forecaster ___IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN_BNS Tot Act (Pen)


    Max Possible __ 300 240 240 180 120 120+_1200 1200 - - _Max Possible


    Sunflower3 ___ 202 148 155 110 089 092 __796 793 003 _Sunflower3


    __Con sensus _ 196 160 124 122 093 083 __778 778 000 _Con Sensus


    Artane2002 ___ 189 170 125 105 083 083 __755 755 000 _Artane2002

    Tae laidir _____ 230 122 117 107 090 088 __754 754 000 _Tae laidir

    Appledrop ____ 183 132 144 119 077 093 __748 748 000 _Appledrop

    DOCARCH ____ 178 187 119 099 098 065 __746 744 002 _DOCARCH

    MrSkinner ____ 221 111 149 094 090 074 __739 738 001 _Mr Skinner

    Jpmarn ______ 227 127 132 078 083 078 __725 723 002 _ Jpmarn

    john mac _____199 126 118 106 097 077 __723 722 001 _john mac

    Kindred Spirit __205 119 111 128 082 074 __719 715 004 _Kindred Spirit

    sryanbruen ___ 194 136 097 115 084 081 __707 707 000 _sryanbruen


    __ NormaL ____183 142 086 110 095 091 __707 707 000 __NormaL


    MrStonewall ___177 120 136 123 077 071 __704 704 000 _MrStonewall

    pauldry ______ 186 159 095 083 086 083 __692 692 000 _pauldry

    Adam240610 __188 139 125 103 070 068 __693 679 014 _Adam240610

    Bsal _________ 182 115 093 121 091 067 __669 666 003 _Bsal

    M.T. Cranium __205 128 083 090 082 065 __663 663 000 _M.T. Cranium

    waterways ____211 065 101 104 087 100 __668 661 007 _waterways

    Dacogawa ____ 184 135 119 076 081 061 __656 656 000 _Dacogawa

    Dasa29 _______187 058 129 119 084 074 __651 651 000 _Dasa29

    200motels ____ 167 098 101 107 079 086 __638 628 010 _200motels (11/12)

    Joe Public _____184 090 120 099 070 064 __627 593 034 _Joe Public

    Gonzo _______ 157 120 084 097 075 079 __612 592 020 _Gonzo

    Danno _______ 106 088 075 105 039 042 __454 455 -001_Danno (10/12)

    Western Storm_ 106 052 060 075 053 043 __389 389 000 _WesternStorm (7/12)

    CirrusBusiness_ 110 057 041 064 034 036 __342 342 000 _CirrusBusiness (6/12)

    SleetAndSnow _ 085 057 044 044 049 042 __321 316 005 _SleetAndSnow (6/12)

    Eon1208 ______079 045 056 047 040 030 __297 295 002 _Eon1208 (5/12)

    Funsterdelux __ 037 029 038 022 026 016 __168 161 007 _Funsterdelux (3/12)

    Esposito ______ 072 045 036 033 018 016 __222 222 000 _Esposito (4/12)

    sdanseo ______ 037 016 010 020 013 012 __108 103 005 _sdanseo (2/12)

    BLIZZARD7 ____019 018 001 034 013 012 __097 093 004_ BLIZZARD7 (5/12)

    Gaoth Laidir ___ 027 010 002 015 019 017 __090 090 000 _Gaoth Laidir (2/12)

    Bazlers _______ 022 000 004 019 019 002 __066 065 001 _Bazlers (2/12)

    Mickey Mantle __011 000 003 011 009 004 __038 033 005 _Mickey Mantle (1/12)

    Tazio _________001 000 012 008 005 002 __028 026 002 _Tazio (1/12)

    _________________________________________

    _______________________________________

    Note: A negative penalty is a score adjustment upwards from the category totals, for a minimum score (which is 10).

    Contest rank is based on "Act" (actual), "Tot" is category total score before penalty or adjustment.


    Three highest totals in each category:


    IMT __ tae laidir 230 (76.7%) ___JPmarn 227 (75.7%) ___ MrSkinner 221 (73.7%)

    MAX __ DOCARCH 187 (77.9%) _ Artane2002 170 (70.8%)_ Pauldry 159 (66.3%)

    MIN __ Sunflower3 155 (64.6%)_ MrSkinner 149 (62.1%) __ appledrop 144 (60.0%)

    PRC __ Kindred Spirit 128 (71.1%)_MrStonewall 123 (68.3%)_ Bsal 120 (66.7%)

    SUN __ DOCARCH 98 (81.7%) ___ John mac 97 (80.8%) _ Bsal 91 (75.8%) (MrSkinner, tae laidir t4 90)

    BONUS _ waterways 100 (83.3%)__appledrop 93 (77.5%) _ sunflower3 92 (76.7%)

    _________________________________________________________-

    Con Sensus would rank third for MAX (160 _ 66.7%), third for PRC (122_67.8%) and third SUN (93_77.5%)

    NormaL would rank second for SUN (95 _ 78.9%) (its only top three score)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Posting this a bit early before seeing the Monthly Summary, reason being that I don't trust the power to stay on here, we had a heavy snowfall and it can lead to brief power outages either from trees coming down across lines or drivers hitting poles -- had a few flickers already during the evening. And I may sleep past the appearance of the MS by several hours, so just in case, look this over but it may be subject to any changes needed for December scoring. I don't anticipate anything very much more than one or two points at the most here or there. Will post a summary with the usual congrats when I have confirmed these scores.


    Final Contest Scoring Jan to Dec 2021

    The ranks in column one are for the total scores; the ranks to the right of each row are the main contest rankings based on best 10 of 12 forecasts. The excluded scores are shown in italics in the monthly scoring section.


    rank (prev) _ FORECASTER__J _ F _ M _A _ M _ J _J _ A _ S _O _ N _ D__TOTAL_best 10/12_rank (prev)


    _01_(01) __sunflower3 ____ 76_37_72_66_67_66_74_78_71_64_52_70 _ 793 ___ 704 _ 01 (01)

    _03_(04) __ tae laidir _____ 67_64_74_39_35_49_64_82_61_66_73_80 _ 754 ___ 680 _ 02 (02)


    (02)_(02)___Con Sensus ___ 65_59_81_67_64_49_59_76_59_63_58_70 _ 778 ___ 671 _(03) ((03))


    _02_(02)__ Artane2002 ____ 67_48_87_61_63_43_57_65_49_65_74_76 _ 755 ____ 664 _ 03 (03)

    _06_(08) __ MrSkinner _____58_63_75_70_47_53_58_69_62_39_56_88 _ 738 ____ 652 _ 04 (07)

    _09_(t10)__Kindred Spirit ___58_82_67_27_55_48_51_75_41_63_63_85 _ 715 ____ 647 _ 05 (09)

    _04_(03)__ Appledrop ______56_75_75_52_74_53_51_51_65_51_72_73 _ 748 ____ 646 _t06 (06)

    _05_(06) __ DOCARCH _____ 54_50_70_54_54_80_56_66_49_49_79_83 _ 744 ____ 646 _t06 (08)

    _07_(05)__ JPmarn ________63_76_69_64_39_40_49_66_59_60_80_59 _ 724 ____ 645 _ 08 (04)

    _08_(07) __ john mac ______62_68_68_34_52_73_57_73_70_44_53_68 _ 722 ____ 644 _ 09 (05)


    (t10)_(10) __ __ NormaL ___59_76_58_48_35_73_56_71_53_51_59_68 _ 707 ____ 632 _ (10) ((11))


    _11_(t10) __ Mr stonewall __ 65_59_41_68_60_38_60_68_49_66_56_74 _ 704 ____ 625 _ 10 (11)

    _10_(09) __sryanbruen ____ 75_76_47 _69_60_57_38_59_59_58_47_62 _ 707 ____ 622 _ 11 (10)

    _12_(13)__ Pauldry ________58_47_72_64_79_43_32_53_39_72_60_73 _ 692 ____ 621 _ 12 (t12)

    _13_(14)__ Adam240610 ___58_68_54_65_72_31_49_70_32_54_58_68 _ 679 ____ 616 _ 13 (t12)

    _14_(18) __ Bsal __________41_50_73_48_62_70_36_60_57_46_33_90 _ 666 ____ 597 _ 14 (19)

    _19_(19) __ 200motels _____38_65_47_75_33_63_57_51_62_ --_63_74 _ 628 ____ 595 _ 15 (t17)

    _16_(17) __ waterways _____55_62_29_41_62_68_71_59_54_44_50_66 _ 661 ____ 591 _ 16 (15)

    _15_(16)__ M.T. Cranium ___ 47_37_65_79_47_65_42_68_53_54_45_61 _ 663 ____ 584 _ 17 (16)

    _17_(12) __ dacogawa _____ 79_60_67_61_50_40_47_44_47_53_72_36 _ 656 ____ 580 _ 18 (14)

    _18_(15) __ dasa29 _______ 48_43_65_42_54_56_40_81_51_56_67_48 _ 651 ____ 569 _ 19 (t17)

    _21_(20) __ Joe Public _____ 41_42_45_58_30_48_10_64_69_53_63_70 _ 593 ____ 553 _t20 (21)

    _20_(21) __ Gonzo ________81_20_83_40_74_39_19_46_34_54_46_56 _ 592 ____ 553 _t20 (20)

    _22_(22) __ Danno ________38_10_25_65_66_--_74_--_ 62_52 _41_23 _ 456 ____ 456 _ 22 (22)

    _23_(23)__ Western Storm __45_81_74_33_40_44_--_72_-- _ -- _ -- _--__ 389

    _24_(24)__ Cirrus Business __35_53_73_67_72_42_--_-- _-- _-- _ -- _--__ 342

    _25_(25) __ SleetandSnow __30_41_77_-- _-- _50_70_48_ --_ --_ -- _--__ 316

    _26_(26) __ eon1208 ______ 53_76_62_58_ --_46_ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _--__ 295

    _27_(27) __ Esposito _______--_ -- _ --_ --_ --_57_57_54_ --_ --_ -- _54 _ 222

    _28_(28) __ funsterdelux ___ 59_40_62 _ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _ -- _ 161

    _29_(29) __ sdanseo _______51_ --_52 _ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _ -- _ 103

    _30_(31) __ BLIZZARD7 ____10_21_34_ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_ --_ 17_11 _ 93

    _31_(30) __ Gaoth Laidir ___ --_ -- _ -- _ --_ -- _ -- _ --_58_32_ --_ --_ -- __90

    _32_(32) __ Bazlers _______34_ --_ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_ --_31 _ -- _ 65

    _33_(--) __ Mickey Mantle __ -- --_ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_ -- _33 _ -- _ 33

    _34_(33) __ Tazio _________--_26 _ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_-- _ -- _ 26

    ===========================================================



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    So, still waiting for the MS, could be delayed to tomorrow possibly? Perhaps Monday considered a holiday. Will check again later today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mrskinner


    Well done Sunflower



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Yes, I will have some comments about the contest as soon as I think the numbers are valid, any small change to sunshine for Dec would perhaps move a few people up or down by one point, but there is quite a logjam in the results from 4th to 9th place so there could be a bit of movement in that zone, if all the main elements for DEC are verified.

    In looking for the sunshine averages as part of getting ready to check the data, I noticed that met.ie plan to roll out 1991-2020 normal values at some point this year, so that may change some values for the IMT normals. It won't affect our contest much because you would already be predicting absolute values for temperature elements, and the PRC normals don't tend to change very much, probably not enough to influence any predictions.

    When the scoring is confirmed, I will update those long-term summaries that appeared the past two years, showing your overall stats and a log of high scores which was looking very sparse for 2021 until several more entrants in December.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Very slight changes from the MS, but I will repost the tables with updated scores.

    Confirmed Scoring for December 2021

    IMT was 6.9, scored from 6.3 as a form of maximum progression (highest forecast 6.1).

    MAX was 14.6, MIN -2.1 (Min scored from min. progression)*

    PRC was 111% and SUN 105%

    BONUS already scored from 8.9, 6.3 NO (scores incl 3 pts for no snow, * did not get those 3 pts)


    FORECASTER ___________ IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN _ BONUS


    Bsal ___________________ 18 _ 16 _ 19*_ 15 _ 07 ___ 13 ______ 88

    MrSkinner ___ (-1) _______ 22 _ 16 _ 17*_ 11 _ 09 ___ 13 _ 88-1= 87

    Kindred Spirit ____________16 _ 19 _ 17*_ 14 _ 09 ___ 12 ______ 87

    DOCARCH ___ (-2) _______ 23 _ 18 _ 18*_ 08 _ 08 ___ 08 _ 83-2= 81

    Artane2002 _____________ 15 _ 16 _ 16*_ 14 _ 10 ___ 09 ______ 80

    Tae laidir _______________ 20 _ 12 _ 14*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 12 ______ 79


    ___ Con Sensus _________ 13 _ 18 _ 11*_ 15 _ 08 ___ 11 ______ 76


    Appledrop ______________ 09 _ 19 _ 15*_ 11 _ 10 ___ 10 ______ 74

    Mr Stonewall ____________ 13 _ 16 _ 08*_ 15 _ 08 ___ 13 ______ 73

    200motels ______________ 14 _ 13 _ 13*_ 15 _ 07 ___ 11 ______ 73

    Pauldry _________________13 _ 19 _ 11*_ 09 _ 07 ___ 13 ______ 72

    Joe Public _______________18 _ 18 _ 06*_ 09 _ 07 ___ 11 ______ 69

    Sunflower3 _____________ 10 _ 16 _ 12*_ 13 _ 07 ___ 10 ______ 68

    John mac _______________14 _ 06 _ 16*_ 12 _ 09 ___ 11 ______ 68

    waterways ___ (-2) _______15 _ 11 _ 11*_ 11 _ 10 ___ 12 _ 70-2= 68

    ___ NormaL _____________15 _ 11 _ 08*_ 11 _ 09 ___ 13 ______ 67

    adam240610 __ (-2) ______10 _ 17 _ 11*_ 11 _ 07 ___ 11 _67-2= 65

    M. T. Cranium ___________ 11 _ 13 _ 07*_ 15 _ 10 ___ 07* _____ 63

    sryanbruen _____________ 10 _ 17 _ 06*_ 14 _ 07 ___ 07 ______ 61

    Jpmarn ________________ 13 _ 16 _ 09*_ 00 _ 07 ___ 12 ______ 57

    Esposito ________________15 _ 13 _ 07*_ 10 _ 05 ___ 06 ______ 56

    Gonzo _________________ 05 _ 15 _ 05*_ 15 _ 06 ___ 09 ______ 55

    Dasa29 ________________ 12 _ 00 _ 12*_ 10 _ 10 ___ 06 ______ 50

    Dacogawa ______________ 09 _ 15 _ 03*_ 00 _ 05 ___ 02* _____ 34

    Mickey Mantle __ (-5) _____11 _ 00 _ 03*_ 11 _ 09 ___ 04* _38-5=33

    Bazler ______ (-1) _______ 03 _ 00 _ 04*_ 15 _ 07 ___ 02* _31-1=30

    Danno _________________ 00 _ 13 _ 02*_ 06 _ 02 ___ 01* _____ 24

    BLIZZARD7 __ (-3) _______ 00 _ 01 _ 01*_ 08 _ 05 ___ 01* _16-3=13

    ... scoring generally quite good (thanks to our friend Min Progression), the top raw scores by the way would have been 65 (also Bsal); Bsal had one point for MIN and everyone else had zero (raw scores), and most of you had the extra six points (touchdown) for IMT, so to get your raw score just subtract your MIN score plus six from your total. Also of course 20 out of 26 scores had the three point Christmas bonus so the totals for most are out of 103 possible.

    ===========================================

    (actual forecasts)


    FORECASTER ___________ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN ___ Dub(A) 25th _snow


    DOCARCH ___ (-2) _______ 6.1 _ 14.8 _ -4.3 _ 090 _ 095 ___ 7.2 ,-0.8 _ No

    MrSkinner ___ (-1) _______ 6.0 _ 15.0 _ -5.0 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 9.0 , 3.0 _ No

    Tae laidir _______________ 5.8 _ 15.4 _ -5.4 _ 103 _ 100 ___10.1 , 3.5 _ No

    Bsal ___________________ 5.6 _ 15.0 _ -4.0 _ 110 _ 092 ___ 9.0 , 3.5 _ No

    Joe Public _______________5.6 _ 14.4 _ -6.9 _ 130 _ 088 ___ 7.8 , 2.5 _ No

    Kindred Spirit ____________5.4 _ 14.5 _ -5.1 _ 115 _ 100 ___11.0 , 4.0 _ No

    waterways ___ (-2) _______5.3 _ 15.5 _ -6.0 _ 123 _ 103 ___ 7.0 , 3.9 _ No

    Artane2002 _____________ 5.3 _ 15.0 _ -5.2 _ 115 _ 105 ___ 7.3 , 0.5 _ No

    Esposito ________________ 5.3 _ 13.9 _ -6.7 _ 095 _ 130 ___ 5.4 ,-3.8 _ No


    ___ Normal ______________5.3 _ 15.5 _ -6.5 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 8.5 , 2.5 _ No


    John mac _______________ 5.2 _ 16.0 _ -5.2 _ 102 _ 098 ___11.2 , 3.2 _ No

    200motels ______________ 5.2 _ 13.9 _ -5.9 _ 112 _ 091 ___ 8.2 , 2.1 _ No

    Pauldry _________________5.1 _ 14.5 _ -6.0 _ 130 _ 090 ___10.4 , 3.8 _ No

    Mr Stonewall ____________ 5.1 _ 14.2 _ -6.4 _ 112 _ 096 ___ 8.7 , 2.3 _ No


    ___ Con Sensus _________ 5.1 _ 14.8 _ -6.0 _ 110 _ 096 ___ 7.8 , 2.0 _ No


    Jpmarn _________________5.1 _ 14.2 _ -6.2 _ 160 _ 090 ___ 8.3 , 2.5 _ No

    Dasa29 _________________5.0 _ 12.5 _ -6.0 _ 095 _ 105 ___ 5.0 ,-4.0 _ No

    M. T. Cranium ____________4.9 _ 15.3 _ -6.7 _ 110 _ 105 ___ 6.2 , 3.3 _ yes Knock

    Mickey Mantle __ (new --) __4.9 _ 12.3 _-10.1 _ 099 _ 100 ___ 5.1 _-1.2 _ yes

    Sunflower3 ______________4.8 _ 15.0 _ -5.8 _ 105 _ 090 ___ 8.2, 0.5 _ No

    sryanbruen _____________ 4.8 _ 14.9 _ -6.9 _ 115 _ 090 ___ 3.8 ,-0.7 _ No

    adam240610 __ (-2) ______4.8 _ 14.9 _ -6.0 _ 100 _ 088 ___ 8.0 , 2.0 _ No

    Dacogawa ______________ 4.7 _ 15.1 _-10.5_ 170 _ 080 ___ 3.1 , -4.4 _ yes Casement

    Appledrop ______________ 4.7 _ 14.5 _ -5.3 _ 100 _ 105 ___ 8.0 , 1.0 _ No

    Gonzo _________________ 4.3 _ 15.1 _ -7.2 _ 112 _ 086 ___ 6.4 , 1.5 _ No

    Bazler ______ (-1) _______4.1 _ 11.2 _ -8.2 _ 112 _ 090 ___ 2.5 ,-3.5 _ Yes Knock

    BLIZZARD7 __ (-3) ______ 3.3 _ 12.7 _-13.7_ 090 _ 130 ___ 0.7 , -5.3 _ Yes Casement

    Danno _________________2.7 _ 13.9 _-10.7_ 085 _ 145 ___ 1.4 ,-6.7 _ yes Ballyhaise

    Post edited by M.T. Cranium on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Final Contest Scoring Jan to Dec 2021

    The ranks in column one are for the total scores; the ranks to the right of each row are the main contest rankings based on best 10 of 12 forecasts. The excluded scores are shown in italics in the monthly scoring section.

    This table includes the slight scoring changes from December as shown above.


    rank (prev) _ FORECASTER__J _ F _ M _A _ M _ J _J _ A _ S _O _ N _ D__TOTAL_best 10/12_rank (prev)


    _01_(01) __sunflower3 ____ 76_37_72_66_67_66_74_78_71_64_52_68 _ 791 ___ 702 _ 01 (01)

    _03_(04) __ tae laidir _____ 67_64_74_39_35_49_64_82_61_66_73_79 _ 753 ___ 679 _ 02 (02)


    (02)_(02)___Con Sensus ___ 65_59_81_67_64_49_59_76_59_63_58_68 _ 776 ___ 669 _(03) ((03))


    _02_(02)__ Artane2002 ____ 67_48_87_61_63_43_57_65_49_65_74_80 _ 759 ____ 668 _ 03 (03)

    _06_(08) __ MrSkinner _____58_63_75_70_47_53_58_69_62_39_56_87 _ 737 ____ 651 _ 04 (07)

    _09_(t10)__Kindred Spirit ___58_82_67_27_55_48_51_75_41_63_63_87 _ 717 ____ 649 _ 05 (09)

    _04_(03)__ Appledrop ______56_75_75_52_74_53_51_51_65_51_72_74 _ 749 ____ 647 _ 06 (06)

    _05_(06) __ DOCARCH _____ 54_50_70_54_54_80_56_66_49_49_79_81 _ 742 ____ 644 _t07 (08)

    t 07_(07) __ john mac ______62_68_68_34_52_73_57_73_70_44_53_68 _ 722 ____ 644 _t07 (05)

    t 07_(05)__ JPmarn ________63_76_69_64_39_40_49_66_59_60_80_57 _ 722 ____ 643 _ 09 (04)


    (t10)_(10) __ __ NormaL ___59_76_58_48_35_73_56_71_53_51_59_67 _ 706 ____ 631 _ (10) ((11))


    _11_(t10)__Mr stonewall ___ 65_59_41_68_60_38_60_68_49_66_56_73 _ 703 ____ 625 _ 10 (11)

    _10_(09) __sryanbruen ____ 75_76_47 _69_60_57_38_59_59_58_47_61 _ 706 ____ 622 _ 11 (10)

    _12_(13)__ Pauldry ________58_47_72_64_79_43_32_53_39_72_60_72 _ 691 ____ 620 _ 12 (t12)

    _13_(14)__ Adam240610 ___58_68_54_65_72_31_49_70_32_54_58_65 _ 676 ____ 613 _ 13 (t12)

    t 14_(18) __ Bsal __________41_50_73_48_62_70_36_60_57_46_33_88 _ 664 ____ 595 _ 14 (19)

    _19_(19) __ 200motels _____38_65_47_75_33_63_57_51_62_ --_63_73 _ 627 ____ 594 _ 15 (t17)

    _16_(17) __ waterways _____55_62_29_41_62_68_71_59_54_44_50_68 _ 663 ____ 593 _ 16 (15)

    t 14_(16)__ M.T. Cranium ___ 47_37_65_79_47_65_42_68_53_54_45_62 _ 664 ____ 585 _ 17 (16)

    _17_(12) __ dacogawa _____ 79_60_67_61_50_40_47_44_47_53_72_34 _ 654 ____ 580 _ 18 (14)

    _18_(15) __ dasa29 _______ 48_43_65_42_54_56_40_81_51_56_67_50 _ 653 ____ 571 _ 19 (t17)

    _21_(20) __ Joe Public _____ 41_42_45_58_30_48_10_64_69_53_63_69 _ 592 ____ 552 _t20 (21)

    _20_(21) __ Gonzo ________81_20_83_40_74_39_19_46_34_54_46_55 _ 591 ____ 552 _t20 (20)

    _22_(22) __ Danno ________38_10_25_65_66_--_74_--_ 62_52 _41_24 _ 457 ____ 457 _ 22 (22)

    _23_(23)__ Western Storm __45_81_74_33_40_44_--_72_-- _ -- _ -- _--__ 389

    _24_(24)__ Cirrus Business __35_53_73_67_72_42_--_-- _-- _-- _ -- _--__ 342

    _25_(25) __ SleetandSnow __30_41_77_-- _-- _50_70_48_ --_ --_ -- _--__ 316

    _26_(26) __ eon1208 ______ 53_76_62_58_ --_46_ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _--__ 295

    _27_(27) __ Esposito _______--_ -- _ --_ --_ --_57_57_54_ --_ --_ -- _56 _ 224

    _28_(28) __ funsterdelux ___ 59_40_62 _ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _ -- _ 161

    _29_(29) __ sdanseo _______51_ --_52 _ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _ -- _ 103

    _30_(31) __ BLIZZARD7 ____10_21_34_ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_ --_ 17_13 _ 95

    _31_(30) __ Gaoth Laidir ___ --_ -- _ -- _ --_ -- _ -- _ --_58_32_ --_ --_ -- __90

    _32_(32) __ Bazlers _______34_ --_ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_ --_ -- _30 _ 64

    _33_(--) __ Mickey Mantle __ -- --_ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_ -- _ -- _33 _ 33

    _34_(33) __ Tazio _________--_26 _ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ -- _ --_ --_ --_-- _-- _ 26

    Post edited by M.T. Cranium on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    So those minor scoring changes really had very little impact on the final results. At this time I can congratulate Sunflower3 who has won for the second time if memory serves me, and it wasn't last year because I was just hunting up those all-time stats at the end of last year and remembered that JPmarn was our defending champ. Basically anyone who finished between 2nd and about 12th or so was hardly separated by very much, which made it quite a scramble at the end. Tae laidir had another high finish at 2nd, he also has a win in some recent year (I think).

    Hope you enjoyed the contests. I have not yet updated that category scoring summary, will have a look and see if any top three designations change as a result. All of these minor changes I just made to scoring are in PRC and SUN, the most anyone could change was 1 and 2 points, except for two people whose original scores had a 1 point error in them (and they both added another point). But in any case, the minor changes left the amended final table looking almost identical, there was a bit of shuffle around 7th to 9th places by one or two points.

    I will import the long-term summary from last December and update it next. If I don't repost the category scoring or comment on it again, that means I checked the order of finish and no changes were detected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    2021 Contest Year Total Scoring in each Category


    Forecaster ___IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN_BNS Tot Act (Pen)


    Max Possible __ 300 240 240 180 120 120+_1200 1200 - - _Max Possible


    Sunflower3 ___ 202 148 155 110 087 092 __794 791 003 _Sunflower3


    __Con sensus _ 196 160 124 122 091 083 __776 776 000 _Con Sensus


    Artane2002 ___ 189 170 125 107 085 083 __759 759 000 _Artane2002

    Tae laidir _____ 230 122 117 106 090 088 __753 753 000 _Tae laidir

    Appledrop ____ 183 132 144 118 079 093 __749 749 000 _Appledrop

    DOCARCH ____ 178 187 119 099 096 065 __744 742 002 _DOCARCH

    MrSkinner ____ 221 111 149 093 090 074 __738 737 001 _Mr Skinner

    john mac _____199 126 118 106 097 077 __723 722 001 _john mac

    Jpmarn ______ 227 127 132 078 081 078 __723 721 002 _Jpmarn

    Kindred Spirit__205 119 111 130 082 074 __721 717 004 _Kindred Spirit

    sryanbruen ___ 194 136 097 115 084 081 __707 707 000 _sryanbruen


    __ NormaL ____183 142 086 109 095 091 __706 706 000 __NormaL

    4

    MrStonewall ___177 120 136 124 075 071 __703 703 000 _MrStonewall

    pauldry ______ 186 159 095 084 084 083 __691 691 000 _pauldry

    Adam240610 __188 139 125 102 068 068 __690 676 014 _Adam240610

    Bsal _________ 182 115 093 121 089 067 __667 664 003 _Bsal

    M.T. Cranium __205 128 083 089 084 065 __664 664 000 _M.T. Cranium

    waterways ____211 065 101 104 087 100 __670 663 007 _waterways

    Dacogawa ____ 184 135 119 076 079 061 __654 654 000 _Dacogawa

    Dasa29 _______187 058 129 119 086 074 __653 653 000 _Dasa29

    200motels ____ 167 098 101 108 077 086 __637 627 010 _200motels (11/12)

    Joe Public _____184 090 120 100 068 064 __626 592 034 _Joe Public

    Gonzo _______ 157 120 084 096 077 079 __611 591 020 _Gonzo

    Danno _______ 106 088 075 104 041 042 __455 456 -001_Danno (10/12)

    Western Storm_ 106 052 060 075 053 043 __389 389 000 _WesternStorm (7/12)

    CirrusBusiness_ 110 057 041 064 034 036 __342 342 000 _CirrusBusiness (6/12)

    SleetAndSnow _ 085 057 044 044 049 042 __321 316 005 _SleetAndSnow (6/12)

    Eon1208 ______079 045 056 047 040 030 __297 295 002 _Eon1208 (5/12)

    Funsterdelux __ 037 029 038 022 026 016 __168 161 007 _Funsterdelux (3/12)

    Esposito ______ 072 045 036 033 020 016 __224 224 000 _Esposito (4/12)

    sdanseo ______ 037 016 010 020 013 012 __108 103 005 _sdanseo (2/12)

    BLIZZARD7 ____019 018 001 034 013 012 __097 093 004_ BLIZZARD7 (5/12)

    Gaoth Laidir ___ 027 010 002 015 019 017 __090 090 000 _Gaoth Laidir (2/12)

    Bazlers _______ 022 000 004 018 019 002 __065 064 001 _Bazlers (2/12)

    Mickey Mantle __011 000 003 011 009 004 __038 033 005 _Mickey Mantle (1/12)

    Tazio _________001 000 012 008 005 002 __028 026 002 _Tazio (1/12)

    _________________________________________

    _______________________________________

    Note: A negative penalty is a score adjustment upwards from the category totals, for a minimum score (which is 10).

    Contest rank is based on "Act" (actual), "Tot" is category total score before penalty or adjustment.


    Three highest totals in each category:


    IMT __tae laidir 230 (76.7%)___JPmarn 227 (75.7%) ___ MrSkinner 221 (73.7%)

    MAX _ DOCARCH 187 (77.9%) _ Artane2002 170 (70.8%)_ Pauldry 159 (66.3%)

    MIN __Sunflower3 155 (64.6%)_ MrSkinner 149 (62.1%) __appledrop 144 (60.0%)

    PRC __Kindred Spirit 130 (72.2%)_MrStonewall 124 (68.9%)_Bsal 120 (66.7%)

    SUN __John mac 97 (80.8%) _ DOCARCH 96 (80.0%) ___ MrSkinner, tae laidir t 90, 75.0% _ (Bsal 89)

    BONUS_waterways 100 (83.3%)__appledrop 93 (77.5%) _ sunflower3 92 (76.7%)

    _________________________________________________________-

    Con Sensus would rank third for MAX (160 _ 66.7%), third for PRC (122_67.8%) and third SUN (91_75.8%)

    NormaL would rank second for SUN (95 _ 78.9%) (its only top three score)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    So, it turned out that a few changes did take place in the top three category scoring, for SUN (PRC was not affected).

    Meanwhile, here we go with the long-term report, with the required updates. This is work from the past year or two and I have just brought that up to date.

    Best monthly forecasts (all scores 83+ appear here) 2010 to 2020


    FORECASTER _______Month _____ Score


    John mac _________ 06 2013 _____ 94

    BLIZZARD7 ________05 2018 _____ 92

    Con Sensus ________03 2014 _____ 92

    Artane2002 ________07 2019 _____ 91

    Con Sensus ________11 2017 _____ 91

    mickger844posts ____12 2019 _____ 90

    dacogawa __________07 2017 _____ 90

    NormaL ___________ 12 2017 _____ 90

    mickger844posts ____ 02 2015 _____ 90

    Schadenfreudia _____ 11 2015 _____ 90

    Pauldry ____________03 2018 _____ 89

    Western Storm ______11 2017 _____ 89

    Lumi, dacogawa and_(03 2016)

    ___ mickger844posts_03 2016 _____ 89

    sunflower3 ________ 12 2016 _____ 89

    Bsal ______________12 2021 _____ 88

    sryanbruen ________ 04 2020 _____ 88

    MrSkinner _________ 12 2019 _____ 88

    Rameire ___________07 2018 _____ 88

    M.T. Cranium _______11 2016 _____ 88

    Kindred spirit _______12 2014 _____ 88

    Strasser ___________12 2011 _____ 88

    MrSkinner, Kindred Sp 12 2021 _____ 87

    waterways _________12 2019 _____ 87

    Kindred spirit _______11 2018 _____ 87

    Joe Public __________05 2017 _____ 87

    Sponge Bob ________ 11 2012 _____ 87

    MrSkinner __________01 2020 _____ 86

    JPmarn ____________ 01 2020 _____ 86

    M.T. Cranium ________05 2018 _____ 86

    Tae laidir ___________ 01 2016 _____ 86

    M.T. Cranium ________04 2015 _____ 86

    dasa29 _____________03 2019 _____ 85

    Pauldry ____________ 07 2019 _____ 85

    200motels __________05 2018 _____ 85

    sryanbruen _________ 07 2018 _____ 85

    NormaL ____________ 08 2018 _____ 85

    MrSkinner __________ 03 2015 _____ 85

    Tae laidir ___________ 02 2014 _____ 85

    omicron ____________03 2014 _____ 85

    dasa29, Artane 2002__ 11 2020 _____ 84

    Gonzo _____________ 07 2020 _____ 84

    waterways __________06 2019 _____ 84

    rikand _____________01 2015 _____ 84

    JPmarn ____________12 2013 _____ 84

    Con Sensus ________ 11 2012 _____ 84

    Tae laidir __________ 12 2011 _____ 84

    Gonzo _____________03 2021 _____ 83

    Tae laidir ________ 03,07 2019 _____83

    John mac _________ 06 2019 _____ 83

    dasa29 ___________ 03 2018 _____ 83

    Rougies ___________11 2017 _____ 83

    John mac _________ 10 2016 _____ 83

    DOCARCH _________10 2015 _____ 83

    Con Sensus _______ 04 2014 _____ 83

    DOCARCH ________ 10 2013 _____ 83

    (the highest score in 2010 was 83, Joe Public had that one in April 2010).


    note: high scores for other regulars, 82 Dec 2018 for Adam240610.


    also updating this table of all-time performances from 2020 results (partial annual participation not used as it would distort full-time averages from earlier) ... and note, this table has used only "best 10/12" ranks which tend to discount differences based on number of contests between the qualifying 10 and 12 limits. I have listed Artane2002 and Adam240610 after the table as they only have two complete years (both joined in part way through 2018).


    FORECASTER ___ YEARS (with 10-12 contests) ___ Average Rank (previous table)


    Active now

    Artane2002 _________ 3 ____________________3.0 (2, 4, 3)


    Con Sensus _________12 ___________________ 4.1 ___ 4.3


    MrSkinner __________ 7 ____________________ 5.7 ___ 6.0

    Tae laidir ___________11 ___________________ 7.3 ___ 7.8

    Sunflower3 _________ 7 ____________________ 7.7 ___ 8.7

    Pauldry ____________11____________________ 8.3 ___ 7.9

    JPmarn ____________ 9 ____________________ 8.4 ___ 8.3

    sryanbruen _________ 6 ____________________ 9.5 ___ 9.2

    DOCARCH _________ 13 ____________________ 9.8 __ 10.1

    kindred spirit _______13 ___________________ 10.2 __ 10.6

    bsal _______________9 ____________________10.4 __ 10.0

    Adam240610 _______ 3 ____________________12.0 (8, 15, 13)

    John mac __________12 ___________________ 12.8 __ 13.4

    M.T. Cranium ______ 13 ___________________ 13.8 __ 13.5

    waterways ________ 11 ___________________ 14.0 __ 13.9

    Danno (2009-12,21) _ 5 ___________________ 14.0 __ 12.0

    dacogawa _________11 ___________________ 14.1 __ 13.7

    dasa29 ___________ 13 ___________________15.5 __ 15.3

    Joe Public _________ 12 ___________________16.7 __ 16.4

    200motels _________13 ___________________17.2 __ 17.4

    BLIZZARD7 ________ 3*__________________ 20.3 __ 20.0

    * did not change stats. 2021 part-time entrant only


    Appledrop, MrStonewall and Gonzo all joined in midway through 2020, not sure how to handle those half-year scores in this format, but in general they were scoring about the same in that half-year as they did this year. May be eligible to enter this table next year if they have a full year in 2022..


    Legends of the past


    Jerry Seinfeld (2010-13)____4 ________________ 5.25 (3, 3, 3, 12)

    Lumi (2010-12,15-17) _____ 6 ________________ 6.5

    nilhg (2009-13) __________ 5 ________________ 8.0

    Mickger844posts (2011-20) _10 _______________ 8.8

    Rikand (2012-20) _________ 9 _______________11.6

    harps (2011-15) __________ 5 _______________12.6

    Rameire (2011-19) ________ 9 _______________13.2

    Strasser (2009-13) ________ 5 _______________16.6

    JD (2009-16) _____________8 _______________17.4


    _________________________________________________



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    This table was first posted in Dec 2019 and was not updated last year so here's a two year update for the leaderboard. ...

    (2019 text) ... winners from every year we've had this contest. This table does not show the position of Con Sensus (we've had enough of his or her bragging). I show the top three for each year. To make for an easier fit, mickger844posts is shortened to mickger in this table.


    Highest category scores of all time are in bold highlights. They were both in 2016.



    YEAR _ Boards Award (best 10 of 12) _________________"MTC Award" (total score)


    2021 _ Sunflower3 (702), Tae laidir, (679) Artane2002 (668)

    ________________________________ Sunflower3 (791), Artane2002 (759), Tae laidir (753)


    2020 _ JPmarn (675), dasa29 (670), Artane2002 (663)

    ________________________________ JPmarn (764), dasa29 (756), Pauldry (738)


    2019 _ Tae laidir (711) Artane 2002 (695) waterways (694)

    _______________________________ Tae laidir (810) sunflower3 (766) mickger (765)


    2018 _ Pauldry (708) sryanbruen (683) DOCARCH (672)

    _______________________________ Pauldry (814) sryanbruen (765) DOCARCH, JPmarn (761)


    2017 _ Pauldry (700) MrSkinner (t2-687), tae laidir (t2-687)

    _______________________________ Pauldry (816) mickger (789) MrSkinner (782)


    2016 _ sunflower3 (717) MrSkinner (702) Lumi (689)

    _______________________________ MrSkinner (818) sunflower3 (802) dacogawa (769)


    2015 _ JPmarn (669) M.T. Cranium (661) Lumi (659)

    ________________________________ Lumi (761) Rikand (745) JPmarn (744)


    2014 _ Rikand (689) harps (688) Bsal (651)

    ________________________________Rikand (791) harps*(737) kindred spirit (720)


    2013 _ Tae laidir (602) harps (579) kindred spirit (566)

    _______________________________ Tae laidir (683) harps (646) kindred spirit (641)


    2012 _ Sponge Bob (605) Lumi (599) Jerry Seinfeld (585)

    _______________________________ Sponge Bob (692) Lumi (670) Jerry Seinfeld (654)


    2011 _ nilhg (560) kindred spirit (529) Jerry Seinfeld (521)

    ______________________________ nilhg (636) mickger (584) kindred spirit (583)


    2010 _ Danno (549) Joe Public (509) Jerry Seinfeld** (502)

    ______________________________Danno (613) Joe Public (568) DOCARCH (541)


    2009^^ Danno avg 62.6, JD avg 59.4, dasa29 avg 59.3

    _____________________________ Danno (751) dasa29 (712) Nacho libre (708)

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    *In 2014 harps managed second place total score off eleven entries.

    ** In 2010 Jerry Seinfeld played 11 of 12 which is why he missed out on second or third in the total scoring.

    ^^ In 2009 we did not track best ten of twelve and the main contest award was by average score as shown.

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    From the above it can be seen that Sunflower3, Tae laidir, JPmarn and Pauldry have each won the main (Boards) award twice, Sunflower3 in 2016 and this past year, Tae Laidir in 2013 and 2019, JPmarn in 2015 and 2020, and Pauldry in 2017 and 2018. Also, Danno won twice in 2009 and 2010. Tae laidir added a T-2 in the Boards award for 2017 and finished second again this year.

    Most of the Boards award winners also won the secondary (total score) MTC award when they won the Boards award, but not always. There were different winners of total score in the 2015 and 2016 contests. Other Boards award winners have been Rikand (2014), nilhg (2011) and Sponge Bob (2012). The two winners of the total score (MTC) award who were not also Boards award winners were MrSkinner and Lumi.

    A few other names show up more than once, including Lumi, mickger844posts, kindred spirit, harps, MrSkinner and Jerry Seinfeld.

    By the way, it's not that scoring has improved, I don't think we had minimum progression before 2014.

    Three have played every contest from 2010 to the present time: Dasa29, DOCARCH and M.T. Cranium; kindred spirit has missed only three. 200motels also joined later in 2009 and has played almost all the contests from 2010 to 2021. Dacogawa and John mac have been very frequent entrants also since some time around 2009-10. Joe Public also quite a lengthy record (so I'm told).

    It is interesting how many people do about the same in most contest years but almost everyone has that one year where they break out and have a chance at a win or at least a top three finish. The 2.0 version of Danno has not quite gained the consistency of Danno 1.0, sure it will come on this year though.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,121 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Jeez MT! A lot of work there! Well done and thanks as always for running the contest. 🌞



  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Thanks MT. Incredible statistics!

    Perhaps I can add a summary of 2021.

    Averages only an indication of averages.

    Thanks to Norma L for her assistance.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Wow, M.T thanks for all that work didn't realise how long this contest has been going on for!

    Congratulations Sunflower 3 on a great win🏆.

    One of the only pluses of Covid 19 is the fact I found this thread + love taking part!

    Best of luck to us all in 2022 contest.



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