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Storm Barra: December 7/8th 2021 **Technical Discussion Only**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Cork Airport warning from Met Éireann, valid to 11 am. Winds increasing to gusting to 65-70 knots from 6-9 am.

    EICK AD WRNG 03 VALID 070400/071100 WIND SFC S 25-30KT MAX 40-45 BECMG 0706/0709 SW 30-35KT MAX 60-70 FCST=



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sudocremegg


    Still plenty of boats out there.

    Many of those fishing boats were still fishing less than an hour ago. That container ship left moneypoint 12 hours ago, I guess it's hoping it can outrun it?

    One container ship left Waterford port also.




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭pauldry


    The rapid intensification reminds me of storms in 1997 and 1998. The only saving grace is the strongest winds bash into the Magilicuddy Reeks and a lot of remote areas of Kerry to start. However other towns and villages there and in Cork could have massive structural damage and sea surge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭konman


    All the hi-res models showing snow for Mayo, Sligo, Leitrim, north Roscommon and Donegal in the morning.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jesus, my dear ole granny used to say " tis no night for seafaring". When is your 'still' from????????



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    There's an interesting early paper on rapid cyclogenesis back in the 1970s. Well worth a read.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Would have always viewed the WRF as being fairly solid and reliable in the shorter timeframe, never one to overdo it.






  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    An idea of rainfall accumulations into Weds.





  • Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Donegal, Sligo and Leitrim at present are likely to be upgraded to a Status Orange wind warning for Wednesday morning espically if this trend continues. Galway and possibly even Waterford may be upgraded to a Red level warning on Tuesday morning. We may see Met Éireann issue updated warnings as early as 6am this morning. Parts of the northwest will see some snowfall on Tuesday morning with some accumulations and blizzard type conditions particularly over high ground. There will be a surprise or two I'd say come Tuesday. The below image attached was Belleek, Fermanagh this morning.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Sat image rotation at 11:45 & 00:15

    See you all bright and early!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Q: Do extra-tropical systems in this part of the world go through eyewall replacement cycles? (TY!)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Bookmarked



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,508 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Three hour pressure fall of 14.4 mbs at M6 buoy, winds have increased there to ENE 61 G 78 km/hr, and it has cooled to 4.5 C.

    Storm centre around 978 mb at 51.5 N 18W.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo



    Holy smokes. Extrapolated that's 115hPa / 24hrs. Definition of explosive cyclogenesis is 24?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    My untrained eye says this storm centre is tracking more southerly than the models thought? https://en.sat24.com/en



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Equally untrained, but looks to be headed directly at Loop Head to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Just looking at Arpege and HIRLAM there, and both seemed to be predicting it to track ENE from 6am-12pm. So the centre will likely move further north of where it is then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,508 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    ICON 00z still wants to bring the centre in relatively south of consensus although now it's south Clare, also the circulation is much flabbier than other models, which would have the effect of keeping most of the stronger winds off the south coast. After this is all said and done we will either be saying "should have trusted the ICON" or "thank goodness nobody believed the ICON."



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Pressure (sea level) is falling here now at the rate of 1.0hPa every 15 minutes, or 4.0hPa every hour, so beginning to 'bomb' now.

    Current reading:


    New Moon



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Has suddenly turned very windy in Cork City.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    GFS midday , hitting southwest hard





  • Registered Users Posts: 14,508 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Arpege, GEM and GFS 00z continue their earlier tracks so ICON still without any support.



  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    Latest models suggest Waterford very close to Red warning now too



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    My weather station is showing 951 hPa in North kerry.

    Sudden drop in the last hour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Current pressure reading is 978.3hPa. Breezy from the ESE but nothing untoward. Standard winter fare.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Met updated site some of the south marine warnings back to orange



  • Registered Users Posts: 914 ✭✭✭The Nutty M





  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58



    For the records.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Extratropical cyclones don't have eyes in the way tropical cyclones do. Two very different structures.

    Latest satellite loop shows the strongest winds so far getting into the far southwest now. No evidence of a stingjet so far.




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