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Would you have a problem living in a council estate?

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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would have no problem living in a council estate. People are people, there are good and bad everywhere. If you don't want neighbours, live in a detached house in a field in the middle of nowhere.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you find that good with adults?

    Or is.it only children you believe in assaulting?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭Jizique




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    People living in a council estate are probably working class. but hardly different from people in most areas taking into an account they are likely to have bought the house from the council in the last 20 years. When you own a house you tend to take care of it. you won.t litter and you ll maintain it in good condition just as most house owners in a private estate would.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Freddie Mcinerney




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    I'd say there's a lot of people on here and on Reddit who, for whatever reason, God love them, don't get out of their bedrooms a whole lot. And the outside world's a scary place to them. I live right beside a council estate and the vast majority of people who live there seem to go out to work very early in the mornings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Hodger


    Like many who have posted on this thread I also lived on a council estate growing up I have a lot of memories.

    Like the OP cited one example of someone being hit I can also recall an Incident of a teenager being hit by a adult after the adult was clearly provoked.

    Im obviously not going to use anyone,s real names on here so I,ll just refer to the two people as ( W ) and ( C ) I remember one night when I was around 12 hanging out with a friend ( W ) and ( C ) who were around 15 at the time time passed us and made small talk in relation to a man on the estate who was a known fitness fanatic and used to take part in marathons they said we are going to see how fast he can really run.

    A few minutes later the two older lads broke one of his windows the guy ran out after them and managed to catch one of them he caught ( C ) and gave him a few digs for breaking his window' in the aftermath I don,t recall any guards being called over it and I don,t recall anything else afterwards.

    But having read your post and looking back on that Incident the man was in his own house minding his own business while those two went looking for trouble and got more then what they Initially bargained for when he caught one of them after they broke his window and provoked him.





  • Obviously it goes without saying those two were little **** & what they did was completely wrong.

    the point I’d make is it doesn’t fix his window and I’m almost certain were it an adult who broke the window he wouldn’t have chased them down an estate and levelled them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Most manageable priced estates now would have a large % of houses that are let to people in receipt of HAP who are on the LA housing list so are in fact “council tenants”. The houses are either privately owned by a landlord or have been purchased by the local authority.

    The type of families (pure scum) who cause most of the aggro in council built/council managed estates don’t seem to like living in these “private” estates. It’s as if the atmosphere is not conducive to their chosen lifestyle. I’ve held my breathe like everyone else when, on occasion, I’ve witnessed a branch of some notoriously loathsome local clan arrive and move all their stuff into an empty house, only to realize months later that they’ve quietly moved back out under cover of the night.

    The truth is that their only comfortable when their with their own tribe. 3 legged one eyed pit bull mix dog **** in the long grass outside the sitting room window. Bins overflowing outside the front wall. Neglected feral kids dumped outside screeching and banging the front door for 14 hours a day from April to November. Halloween decs up first of September. Christmas decs up first of November. 04 Focus with no tax/insurance/NCT rotting at the kerb. Garden gate swinging open out into the road. That’s the kind of neighbours they need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭a2deden


    Youve never lived on a council estate but feel you know what living on a council estate is like.....

    What happens on a council estate isnt in any way what you describe, an estate is built up of maybe 80% workers/carers, 20% fuckheads who do nothing whos kids run riot in the estate

    Trying to sell it as a mecca where we are all equals and that should be replicated is beyond stupid

    So no my neighbour Jo who works and has raised 3 kids while being a widow is not the same as the scumbags who broke the playground gate. Council estates are not fun, they are not salt of the earth people, they are places where people have to live with issues that rarely exist outside of council estates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭a2deden


    There are good and bad everywhere...its the percentage that makes somewhere a shithole

    Go to Ballymun and im sure you could find a great person, odds are hes in the minority



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    i lived in a council estate , there were old people there ,retired people ,young people, most people who lived there worked 5 days a week.i never saw anyone whose kids were running riot.what issues do you mean ? i,d be happy to go back there , the houses were 10 to 20 years old .i had good neighbours and there was a great sense of community there .i found 90 per cent of people who i met nice,friendly and ok .

    The problem is people who never went near a council estate presume they are full of gangsters, junkies, weirdo,s or people who spend all their time in the local betting shop or the pub.people who live in council estate are normal people, working class people , it sounds like the people posting on this topic are snobs or else have never ventured outside nice quiet middle class area,s.even the single mothers i knew would work part time as soon as the children were over the age of 10 or could be left with a babysitter .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    It's almost like all council estates aren't equal. I know some dog rough council estates that I'd hardly walk through, others where I'd happily live. A council state in a rough area of Dublin would be far more dangerous than most councils estates in somewhere like Leitrim, so it's absurd to paint them all as one as many as doing.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Live beside loads of council flats now in London. My gaf back home is in a council estate and I'll be back living there at some stage next year. Never any issues in both areas, seen some mad **** but nothing ever affected me directly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭a2deden


    I currently live in an council estate, my previous experience was in my small town and it was as you described a settled estate from a town where everyone knows each other regardless of whether you live in said estate.

    Sadly the estate i live in now isnt the case, its people from outside the village (i am one of them)

    Yes the estate has a lot of single mothers maybe half of them are, some of the single mothers are for lack of a better word trash, some are hard working girls (i dont actually judge a single mother for not working)

    These kids are not all from the single mothers, issues such as breaking windows, going into the garbage bin section jumping on bins breaking them, tearing up trees, ringing doorbells at all hours running away. These kids are feral and being honest ruin the estate for the rest of us

    In our estate i think there is a few druggy families whose kids are part of the bad group but out of 30 houses in a council estate maybe 3/4

    The problem with council estate is the 20% who fit the druggy/gambling/etc who ruin it for the rest who just want a quiet life

    Ive never thought id have to have security cameras in the village alas with these kids its the only option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    In dublin the council sold most council houses off after 2000, eg if you were a tenant and you had the money you could buy the house, when you own a house you tend to be more responsible .So the old council estates as we knew them hardly exist, the estates i know theres usually 1 or 2 cars in every driveway. people on the dole dont buy cars . theres no point in driving a car unless you can afford to buy all the repair bills,buy petrol,pay insurance .its very hard for a single mother in dublin to get a house as dublin city council owns only a small amount of houses .Most council tenants opted to buy the house after the year 2000.eg each house has at least one person in it working full time. the last time i checked only a single parent with 2 kids could get a house, or someone on disability allowance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭a2deden


    I dont agree people on doles not buying cars, they most certainly do here in Galway anyways

    The estate in my home town is 90% bought by there tenants, in fact i think this was done well in advance of 2000

    In our estate its full of couples, single mothers, widows, few retired people bizarre if only single mothers with two kids or someone with a disability getting houses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    i,m not saying couples don,t get offered house,s , my friend a single mother with one child was told, by the council, a single mother only gets offered a house if she has 2 kids, she got a 2 bed apartment about 5 years ago.



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