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Would you have a problem living in a council estate?

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  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have greater issues with people spelling 'NEIGHBOURS' without the 'u'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,868 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    People do what they have to do.

    I did in the 70’s in a small town and it was grand.

    would I choose it for me or my kids, no I wouldn’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭corner of hells




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    IS it still a council estate if all the houses are now owned by former tenants, or owned by people who bought the house from an ex tenant. Theres very few council houses left in dublin still owned by the council , they sold most of the off to former tenants after the year 2000.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    My wife has big boobs, she would get into loads of jealousy fights with other women in council estate



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd rather live on that stretch than #Darndale,, 2 people out of hundreds with 'drink driving convictions' and a few 'domestics' , plus one incident/s (one person involved) of animal cruelty.. Someone wrote a book - at least proves he was intelligent... People are physically and mentally abused and tormented in most places... Pick a random house in an estate in Darndale and there could be a couple of inhabitants with scores of criminal convictions..

    Are those people beating up their wives and kids in your area doing the same everywhere they go, and to others? Are there no cases of domestic abuse in council estates? As long as that shít doesn't extend beyond the house, why should any prospective buyer/renter give a crap? Not as if many houses are adjoining in areas like the one described by you..

    #Darndale a well known example of an area such as might be described in OP..

    Chances of getting mugged, randomly assaulted, and crap like that, I'd say pretty slim in your area..

    So, no real point to your anecdote... Lots would swap living in a council estate to your previous locality in an instant..



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Then your beef is with the big tech (American) companies, with their 'spellcheck' , as much, or more than some random poster's spelling.. When I spell 'neighbour' like so, on here, it underlines, as if to say: "you spelled that word wrong dawg" 😋 dawg got the underlining treatment too, so there's hope 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭NiceFella


    I don't think council estates are going to be much of a thing anymore given the 15% or so allotment of any new development to social housing.

    That said I do live near a council estate and it's been a bit if a mixed bag. Grand for the most part.

    One thing I can't stand though that you see in council estates is kids flying around on scramblers and quads. The noise of the things is really annoying. Also some people think it's ok to blare their car radio while they are in their garden. Having to listen to some numb nuts techno at 2 on Saturday obviously not ideal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,483 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    The councils are now buying entire estates from developers. Council estates ain't going away.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭chosen1


    I'd say most people would be lying in they said that they had no problem living in a council estate. Most people I know that were brought up in the estates in my local town, couldn't wait to get out of them at the earliest opportunity.

    The unfortunate fact is that there is a greater likelihood of having problem families living beside you in such estates and it can be difficult raising kids and keeping them away from trouble. I know that these people exist everywhere, but not to the same extent by far. Decent families leaving to go to other areas probably exacerbate the problem, but I couldn't blame them putting their own interest first.

    Hopefully mixed social housing will improve all areas in future, but I can't see it solving it completely. There needs to be serious consequences for antisocial behaviour from tenants but no one in charge willing to take on this problem anytime soon unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Born and raised in the country. Owned a house in a private estate for 5 years, no issues at all. Estate of about 200 houses in total. But I often tended other estates as part of my job, and I wouldn't live in some of them if you paid me. Bering a country boy, I like my quietness, and council estates are more likely to be anything but, especially some of the more well known ones. I was somehow very lucky with my house, at night time it was nearly like being in the country.

    Living back home for the last few years and I've developed an even greater love of the country, so I wouldn't like to leave it now. Or at the very least, if I was buying again I'd scope out the estate for a few days/nights to see what it's like!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Snails pace


    I'd live in a council estate if I had no other choice. Fond of my open spaces and quiet surroundings. Not sure would I get that there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I live in one. It's a bit unkempt and some of my neighbours never seem to get out of their pyjamas, and there hasn't been a shooting since a few New Year's Eve's ago, but it's grand, and the only place remotely affordable to me when I bought here.

    People on boards.ie and Reddit Ireland etc are terrified of anyone in a tracksuit or people with Dublin accents, but I'd take this a million times over living in some soulless estate outside the M50 with a horrible commute. I am a few mins from the nicest urban park in Ireland (St Anne's) and not far from the Dart and sea. Most of my socially housed neighbours also work, from what I can tell anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    The county council built the house I grew up in but it was one street so don't know if it was a council estate as such. The system they have now where 20% of the estate is council is a better one but it isn't working. They are letting the best be the enemy of the good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    I’m not here by choice ( Cluid housing association)- divorce etc

    tbh it was really shite for years but it’s gotten a lot better having finally turfed out the last lunatic and one other died and 2 more got new houses from the co council

    was brought up in Bishopstown- moved to Creggan est Derry ( council house initially)

    had little or no problems ref anti social activity up north- down here it’s the pits at times ( not just Carrigaline)

    older council estate’s now are well settled in Cork city went from wildlife parks in the early 70s to much sought after areas now , especially in ten south side

    majority of anti social activity in Carrigaline is done by yummy mummy kids as has been highlighted lately and for the last 3 years

    I’m just glad of having had somewhere to raise my kid the last 12/3 years here

    hes now in UCC hoping to be become a secondary teacher, never hung around this dump though bar playing GAA and local soccer, all his contemporaries are from Bishopstown all are either in UCC now or MIT,

    all involved in sport and none have ever got in trouble with the law unlike a lot of kids in my immediate neighbourhood ( incidentally none of the local yobbos made any college, children from middle class areas in general are expected to go on to 3rd level education , it’s not for all as his leaving cert class in Colaiste an Spioraid Naiomh Bishopstown can testify , 2 of tbe boys went farming 2 to trades but ALL the rest to UCC -2to MIT

    want him to have a choice where’ he lives what he drives and have a decent life

    may sound snobby etc but I didn’t even contemplate sending him to the local community school-

    he went to my former school as it’ was a stepping stone to UCC whereas the majority of kids who go to the comm don’t end up in 3rd level



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,527 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Even if you buy a house in a private estate there's nothing stopping and it's happening frequently where the Council buys the house on the open market and moves a family who are on the waiting list into it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Carrigaline community school has over an 80% third-level transfer rate including 44% going to UCC.

    I have a strong dislike of school snobbery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Not snobbery but a choice of sending my kid to a better school hence a better chance of 3rd level for him

    most of the troublemakers in Carrigaline go to or have been to tbe comm



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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would have no problem living in a council estate. People are people, there are good and bad everywhere. If you don't want neighbours, live in a detached house in a field in the middle of nowhere.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you find that good with adults?

    Or is.it only children you believe in assaulting?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Jizique




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    People living in a council estate are probably working class. but hardly different from people in most areas taking into an account they are likely to have bought the house from the council in the last 20 years. When you own a house you tend to take care of it. you won.t litter and you ll maintain it in good condition just as most house owners in a private estate would.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Freddie Mcinerney




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    I'd say there's a lot of people on here and on Reddit who, for whatever reason, God love them, don't get out of their bedrooms a whole lot. And the outside world's a scary place to them. I live right beside a council estate and the vast majority of people who live there seem to go out to work very early in the mornings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Hodger


    Like many who have posted on this thread I also lived on a council estate growing up I have a lot of memories.

    Like the OP cited one example of someone being hit I can also recall an Incident of a teenager being hit by a adult after the adult was clearly provoked.

    Im obviously not going to use anyone,s real names on here so I,ll just refer to the two people as ( W ) and ( C ) I remember one night when I was around 12 hanging out with a friend ( W ) and ( C ) who were around 15 at the time time passed us and made small talk in relation to a man on the estate who was a known fitness fanatic and used to take part in marathons they said we are going to see how fast he can really run.

    A few minutes later the two older lads broke one of his windows the guy ran out after them and managed to catch one of them he caught ( C ) and gave him a few digs for breaking his window' in the aftermath I don,t recall any guards being called over it and I don,t recall anything else afterwards.

    But having read your post and looking back on that Incident the man was in his own house minding his own business while those two went looking for trouble and got more then what they Initially bargained for when he caught one of them after they broke his window and provoked him.



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Juniper Poor Drummer


    Obviously it goes without saying those two were little **** & what they did was completely wrong.

    the point I’d make is it doesn’t fix his window and I’m almost certain were it an adult who broke the window he wouldn’t have chased them down an estate and levelled them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Most manageable priced estates now would have a large % of houses that are let to people in receipt of HAP who are on the LA housing list so are in fact “council tenants”. The houses are either privately owned by a landlord or have been purchased by the local authority.

    The type of families (pure scum) who cause most of the aggro in council built/council managed estates don’t seem to like living in these “private” estates. It’s as if the atmosphere is not conducive to their chosen lifestyle. I’ve held my breathe like everyone else when, on occasion, I’ve witnessed a branch of some notoriously loathsome local clan arrive and move all their stuff into an empty house, only to realize months later that they’ve quietly moved back out under cover of the night.

    The truth is that their only comfortable when their with their own tribe. 3 legged one eyed pit bull mix dog **** in the long grass outside the sitting room window. Bins overflowing outside the front wall. Neglected feral kids dumped outside screeching and banging the front door for 14 hours a day from April to November. Halloween decs up first of September. Christmas decs up first of November. 04 Focus with no tax/insurance/NCT rotting at the kerb. Garden gate swinging open out into the road. That’s the kind of neighbours they need.



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