How should mods be recruited?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118403577#Comment_118403577

'Clearly breaking the rules' is more subjective than you think. This is what the CMODS are for.

Ultimately, boards.ie isn't a democracy. Does the site self harm, such as the prison forum being a 'sport' too often, yes. Can you request it to be better, yes. Ultimately, will the powers that be intervene in the way you want, possibly.

Personally, I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. No boards.ie was unthinkable well into late 2010s. The 2020s, not so much.

The 'change' seemed like an attempt to make it less costly to run, which has damaged it. Whether it has been holed below the waterline remains to be seen. But, it has been in decline before that, subtly at times, less so others (the prison forum, the treatment of Whoops).

'The Great moderation Resignation' of late is disappointing. If the remaining, over worked/under appreciated mods continue to be vilified it will only speed the decline. Be careful what you wish for.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118403577#Comment_118403577

If that was happening then pm a cmod. But as CW says breaking rules is more subjective than one person's opinions. I have often seen outraged reported posts with nothing I could identify to justify the outrage.

Dublinandy3

Have you never experienced any other type of internet forum than boards?

It's no different at all, it's just something you have to accept. Even if you got a bunch of mods you 100% agreed with there would be other people who would think they're being unfair.

I mean this generally so no offence but I find boards to be like every other place online. Some mods seem to be fair l, some don't. Some I like, some I don't. That doesn't mean the ones I think are unfair or I don't like shouldn't be mods, because that's just my own personal biases coming into it.

In a few previous incarnations, hence the 3 after my current name, I've fallen foul of a few decisions I don't agree with but ultimately accept. I now just stay clear from those particular types of threads I was allergic to and hey presto, I have no issues now.

I think we all have to accept that we're not special enough to get everything our own way, and maybe, just maybe, we won't like every mod, just like we don't like everyone in life.

Difference on an internet forum people tend to think that they're never wrong so can get rid of any mods they don't like.

Tldr: Accept you're on an internet forum that may seem like it's a public space but it's not, so accept the decisions by the people that enforce the rules, sometimes in their own perspective, as they have the final say. Life becomes less stressful then and you stop being an angry person online.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118401713#Comment_118401713

Yes, please do answer it and also provide links so we can all see the offending posts.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118403577#Comment_118403577

I've seen mods, even in this thread, pile on with thanks in posts that actually should have been modded, deleted or snipped.

I doubt many posters know (i) they can refer mod inaction to a Cmod or (ii) expect that would produce a result.

I still think the time limit on mods is a good idea...although it doesn't address how mods should be recruited. But it seems that a lot of bad mods have hung around, and as I said at the start, problems become concentrated. A constant turnover of mods might see mixed results, but as with say a lot of voluntary committees where there are time limits on directors, it would at least mitigate that problem.

How many mods have been removed for being...just bad mods?

Pawwed Rig

Alot of bad mods have hung around

I would think the number is fairly low as if they were that bad they would have been removed. I cannot think of too many mods that I would see as bad.

Getting pulled up by a mod does not mean that mod is bad.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405805#Comment_118405805

Absolutely not. In fact getting pulled by a mod is usually valid

But a mod making a personal comments and then arguing that once it's his opinion he's entitled to post it, and other mods standing by and not intervening, should see all of those mods pulled aside and asked if they have any idea about how to mod properly.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406023#Comment_118406023

In which case contact a cmod. How many times does this need to be said?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406036#Comment_118406036

Maybe it should be said an awful lot more, across all the forums, and that would improve the quality of modding?

Perhaps it could be carried as a sticky here on the Feedback forum, and a process whereby people can contact CMods could be set up.

I know there is a Dispute Resolution Forum, but that is based on the idea of posters seeking to challenge bans or infractions, which doesn't cover this situation.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118401322#Comment_118401322

you wouldn’t see an admin being yelled at on thread in the same way you or I might get told to cop on.

Niamh (I think?) is the one who’d do the yelling if it’s required, but I can’t imagine it would happen in public view.

the fact is if boards staff started reprimanding admins (or admins to Cmods or mods) on threads they would be undermining them and making them look incompetent even if that wasn’t the goal.

it would just be a bad idea as well as being absolutely needless and embarrassing for them I think is fair to say. Everyone has someone here to keep them in check, users have mods, mods have Cmods, Cmods have admins & admins have Niamh & Odhean.

It’s obviously pointless and 100x more work than necessary to pull a poster aside when they’re acting the maggot, but mods and so on would be much easier, there’s just less of them and since they’re split into forums with a Cmod to watch etc. i guess it’s a different story if a mod from say After Hours goes into the Covid forum and starts acting the maggot, I wouldn’t expect their cmod to pull them aside about it, ofc the covid mods should deal with it as normal since at that point you’re just a poster, you’re not a mod in that space.

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405294#Comment_118405294

Perhaps you should ask the originator of the claim to provide the evidence.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406784#Comment_118406784

PM is the process where you can contact cmods.

In general the modding is excellent which is evident when you see what cesspits other online forums can become.

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406863#Comment_118406863

Any argument for mods" status to not be visible at all when posting in threads?(even Sir Tony Blair has suggested he not be called "Sir Anthony 😉"

I mean what point does it actually serve?

If you want to report a post ,a mod can answer you and you will then know their username .

I can see ,though how that might feed the paranoia of some.

corks finest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058224638/how-should-mods-be-recruited

Lucky bag

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118405805#Comment_118405805

Should you be able to think of any?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406991#Comment_118406991

literally none of that made any sense or had anything to do with the post you quoted.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407194#Comment_118407194

It would be nice if the world was perfect alright

Esel

The Prison forum is gone a few years now. It was good crack to read the threads there.

The Banlist is one I miss - it was handy to see who was on the naughty step, and reregs getting pwned.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407333#Comment_118407333

The Prison forum existed until the changeover.

The Banlist had to go as it was encouraging use of abusive usernames.

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407243#Comment_118407243

"literally none of that made any sense"

What ,for a mod's status to be invisible to a poster is unintelligible to you?

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406023#Comment_118406023

You should ask to become a mod and show everyone where they are all going wrong.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407343#Comment_118407343

Back in the day admins like Gordon used to take the piss out of some of the trolls that ended up there. In recent years the newer admins have been a lot more civil and matter of fact with prison posters.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407414#Comment_118407414

It's a feedback forum

A poster could post on every thread with a facile and useless contribution like your "well why don't you take over" effort.

Plus, you obviously haven't read the thread anyway if you think applicants "ask". Mods have repeatedly said the process is one of invitation.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407465#Comment_118407465

I'm giving you feedback, you seem to be the man with all the answers so push your case to become a mod.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407465#Comment_118407465

That could be seen as personal abuse telling me my idea is useless.

MTU

If a poster wants to become a mod I think they should apply. Why should it be a ticking box exercise.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407261#Comment_118407261

As a cmod should you not be able to do something about it?

Or is moderation oversight that broken where cmods can note poor moderation (even if outside their category) and nothing can be done about it?

Pawwed Rig

A cmod is a category mod. I am cmod of 3 categories so what happens in the other categories is none of my business other than I can give feedback the same as anyone else.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407520#Comment_118407520

No it couldn't. Telling someone they're post is facile and inane is not personal. But if you think it is, report it instead of repeatedly trolling and trying to derail the thread.

Now, do you have an on topic comment about mod recruitment?

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118407707#Comment_118407707

Oh so now I'm a troll as well but no I have never reported anything and won't be now either so I'll leave you too it.