Djokovic

10-01-2022 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447733#Comment_118447733

Nice deflection. This thread is to do with Djokovic and his admission to the Australia. Not tennis. Personally, I think he faked his covid diagnosis alongside a dodgy doctor rather than was actively infecting others.

KieferFan69 · 10-01-2022 10:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447737#Comment_118447737

Indeed. Bizarre to see all the self-described lefties shouting in favour of discriminatory border controls and bio-security police state policies throughout the two years.

AyeGer · 10-01-2022 10:13AM

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But those children could be hugging their grannies. That’s the point of isolating when positive. To stop the spread.

Dempo1 · 10-01-2022 10:13AM

Perhaps Novak will soon consider taking up Rugby and learn about the art of a good Drop Kick 😉

KieferFan69 · 10-01-2022 10:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447751#Comment_118447751

Not really interested in your personal fantasies mate. The discussion is about his admittance to Australia not some meet and greet with children from a few weeks back that you disapprove of. You won’t let that get in the way of your moral crusade of course.

Funny how easily people are turned into pitchfork fundamentalists by RTE etc.

Fandymo · 10-01-2022 10:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447514#Comment_118447514

Hes not, but why start using facts now??

10-01-2022 10:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447775#Comment_118447775

Expecting somebody to isolate whilst covid positive makes me a pitchfork fundamentalist. That's ..... interesting to say the least.

Barrita · 10-01-2022 10:22AM

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I am kind of glad it has all happened to Novak. There are so many layers to unpack.

But it has given us a very public microcosm of the pandemic, surrounding atmosphere and attitudes towards pandemic response as a whole.

His exemption tweet brought ire from a lockdown populace. Scot Morrison decided it would be politically expedient to stitch up Novak. So he conspired with border force to railroad Novak on arrival by cancelling his visa and lying to him about how much time they were going to give him to get legal advice. Having not been able to get the advice in the much shortened time frame border force confirmed the decision to kick him out.

This was obviously not good for the people who had already been waved through by border force as for the conspiracy to have any chance of working they had to hunt them down and deport them which is sadly what they did.

First he was denounced as an arrogant entitled prick who thought he could swan in. Then it transpired a less affluent, less influential, essentially unknown female Tennis player had come in by the same method prior to his arrival. A retrospective clean up had to take place via turfing her out to save face.

We have people delighting in political indifference/interference to fair judicial process.

We have contrasting headlines from Russian and Western newspapers highlighting that this is cultural and not health and safety pe se.

"hero who dared to say no" was in the Russian press. The western media have been less accommodating to him.

We have people trawling through his twitter timeline looking for pictures around the time of his positive test so they can say GOTCHA. Curtain twitchers writ large.

People even in this thread seem more concerned for the well-being of any close contacts than the Serbian people cheering and chanting both at home and at his hotel do. I see no Serbian media denouncing his appearance at the postage stamp event as a #golfgate or #merrion equivalent.

The west is projecting their values onto a different people who don't share all of the wests progressive values.

The same people who have a pop at Viktor Orban or who say "the polish aren't vaxxed because the don't watch prime time".

The amount of bile this topic has attracted makes me raise an eyebrow. Eamon Ryan was allowed to keep testing until he got the result he wanted to go to cop26. Did the Irish media/commentariat create a similar with hunt......I think not.

At the end of the day he has a legally acquired visa, NATURAL IMMUNITY and a victory in court.

But it is still not enough for a certain cohort. They want him punished for being different, for having the means and wherewithal to fight the system and or being proud of both of the above. The hate that he is not afraid of the virus and wants to get on with it.

And for me that's the saddest aspect of the last two years. The virus is not nearly as nasty as humankind have shown themselves to be.

KieferFan69 · 10-01-2022 10:23AM

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Omicron is mild. In that respect it is the same as any respiratory virus ever.

You may have passed a fatal cold /flu onto an older or more vulnerable person several times already in your life but nobody shut down the country as a response.

Anybody who wants the vaccine has been given the opportunity to have it. Now for everyone’s sake we need to move on.

The Djokovic thing is 100% political. Nothing to do with public health. At all.

gmisk · 10-01-2022 10:23AM

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So you have changed from no children have died from covid...to only children have died from covid who had underlying conditions.

But that isn't even true either.

Plenty of other examples

https://abc13.com/child-death-covid-coronavirus-teen-dies-of/10978261/

Fandymo · 10-01-2022 10:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118440834#Comment_118440834

He’s so anti-vax that he set up a vaccination centre so that anyone taking part in his tournament could get vaccinated if they so wished. Mental that people have to make so much stuff up.

10-01-2022 10:25AM

At the end of the day, the judge decided. Australia government tried to stitch him up. Absolutely knew that they'd get the rabid support of the pro rules brigade. Him being unvaxxed in Aus is of no threat to anyone more than your normal vaxxed person in the case of Omicron. It's a completely political measure in response to domestic pressures.

I don't think anyone here is defending Novak going out the next day after his positive test. It's a deflection tactic to bring it up now that the judge has ruled in his favour. They may still arrest and deport him but it will look ridiculous. Djokovic is a t*t. He makes things worse every time he speaks, he has questionable stances on things. But as much as people want to believe, he's not the dangerous bogeyman he's been strung up conveniently on.

10-01-2022 10:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447795#Comment_118447795

But he was still hugging children whilst covid positive. Is this really the hill you want to die on?

Fandymo · 10-01-2022 10:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447702#Comment_118447702

From the timeline I’ve seen. He was tested on 16th, got result at 8pm on 17th. Isolated from 18th-25th. No idea if it’s true, but it is what is being reported. He was being tested weekly., so has no reason to isolate after being tested. Again, this is what is being reported. A quick google will show you this.

Annasopra · 10-01-2022 10:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447795#Comment_118447795

The saddest part is people defending his scumbag behaviour of not isolating after his positive test. I was a bit indifferent on my thoughts about him up to then but now its clear he put lives at risk by knowingly not isolating nah. Protecting lives isnt a Western thing 🙄

titan18 · 10-01-2022 10:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447813#Comment_118447813

Tbf, he got off effectively on a technicality. He still hasn't satisfied the entry requirements for being in Australia.

10-01-2022 10:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447832#Comment_118447832

He got his results on the evening of the 16th December. It was released as part of the visa case.

thefallingman · 10-01-2022 10:30AM

IF Novak can manage to win slam number 21 here after all of this, it'll be one of sports best ever moments, there should also be resignations from certain Australian politicians aswell. This really has made Australia look foolish in the eyes of the world.

gmisk · 10-01-2022 10:31AM

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Your 100 percent wrong.

I linked earlier to a court doc...he tested positive (i.e got the result on 16th) then was pictured at events on 17th and 18th.

https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1480448426332413953?t=0L_bkjjS2D-zq0-NqnB8Zw&s=19

super_furry · 10-01-2022 10:31AM

The Australian government could have avoided all this if they just said they found some seeds and half a cooked snake in his luggage.

redlad12 · 10-01-2022 10:31AM

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You are a fool and troll. The thread is about his admission to Australia and his reasoning for seeking admission. He got an exemption for a recent positive covid test. The validity of that test has been called into question because of the timelines. He either A - faked his test B - didn't bother isolating the day after knowing he had covid. It's all valid discussion.

10-01-2022 10:32AM

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I'm just wondering if you know Djokovic personally? You seem exceedingly bitter about him. I've been following this thread and can't get my head around how messed up people have become after 2 years of Covid. Obsessed ranting about your own made up scenarios are just that..... rantings. Maybe you should take a break from social media until you calm down.

We need to look at this objectively. People have completely lost perspective! Djokovic is no threat to anyone's health, that's the bottom line. He has natural immunity. We are dealing with Omicron which is mild and causes almost no deaths or hospitalizations (unless in vulnerable people). Young fit healthy athletes are being banned from playing sports, people who take far better care of their health than any of us, who don't mix with the masses, who get daily tests, who aren't smoking, drinking and aren't obese (unlike most Australians).

Is it bitterness and resentment that makes people so angry?? I understand the frustration of the Australian people seeing tennis players flying in from abroad while they are under restrictions. But most of the Premier League players are unvaccinated and have been playing all over Europe, likewise a lot of the rugby players. I think this whole episode is a huge embarrassment for the Australian government and has become a witch hunt.

I personally couldn't care less at this stage about Omicrom as it is no more than a cold. People vaccinating 5 year olds for this 'cold' worries me far more !! (I am fully vaccinated myself and worked last year in a vaccination centre, but I'm not getting any more vaccines or boosters)

Fandymo · 10-01-2022 10:33AM

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But I thought this thread was about his entry to Australia? That’s what you said a few posts ago.

Barrita · 10-01-2022 10:34AM

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They don't care about it as much over there as you do here. I don't care who he hugged and im not saying that to wind you up.

Anyone who is really afraid should just stay at home. We have had two years of this.

One year where there were no vaccines and the second year where the vaccines arrived and those who wanted them have been offered them. 3 doses in some jurisdictions.

Lets get on with it now for crying out loud.

Dempo1 · 10-01-2022 10:35AM

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Not all, my entire focus has been on the clear Shenanigans around this debacle. I've cared less about his Vacination stance or status. This is about someone circumventing rules and ably supported in doing so by the Australian Tennis Association.

He, without a shadow of doubt got a wink and a nod, got preferential treatment, claimed a serious medical condition, eventually admitting to a positive test. Then applied for an incorrect Visa that doesn't allow for a medical exemption and if that wasn't bad enough got his hearing fast tracked when others waiting weeks and months for a hearing.

The entire debacle stinks to high heaven, different strokes for different folks. The main mistakes here are the Australian government allowing him to fly in and then allowing him to stay and let this farce fester into a charade.

10-01-2022 10:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447861#Comment_118447861

Good on you. If it's only a cold, how come some people are still ending up in ICU with the Omicron variant? Genuinely curious.

redlad12 · 10-01-2022 10:36AM

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Most pl footballers are vaccinated. What's your opinion on Novak either A- faking covid or B - not isolating the day after his positive test. Literally that is what the evidence is. No ranting and no made up scenario. It is either A or B , that has been already proven. What's your take?