Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119429992#Comment_119429992

Not you Q, but yer man there is some shìt stirrer. He’s well aware that Na Gaeil Aeracha aren’t any threat to either the LGFA, the GAA, or anyone for that matter. As for how the LGFA or the GAA have dealt with the club, they’ve been very supportive -

GAA.ie: What can the GAA, LGFA, and Camogie Associations do to be more inclusive? There’s obviously a lot of work already being done in this space. You mentioned Geraldine McTavish, the GAA’s Diversity and Inclusion Officer, who is behind a number of great initiatives. More can always be done, so would either of you have any tips for clubs out there on how they can be more inclusive?

Karl Shannon: It's hard to say. We were the first explicitly inclusive LGBTQ+ and allies club, but Ballymun Kickhams had the rainbow stripes on their jerseys for five years before we were even a thing. A lot of clubs already go out of their way to be inclusive and it's stuff like that, showing the kind of symbolism, that really shows the strength and the unity with our community.

The GAA and the LGFA helped us hugely to set up this club and showed us the ropes in terms of what we needed to do and those were great strides for them to take because they just needed somebody to found the club and get it started and get it up and going. We've been invited to march with them in Pride this weekend. So, I definitely I think that there are strides already being made. It's about listening to our community and they definitely are.

Emma Loo: Ger McTavish has just been super and I know there's loads of stuff going on in the background, even from grassroots as well from a young age in the schools and with online workshops, there's a lot of different things coming on board. It's not linear, it takes time. We're not expecting miracles. We're not gonna push anything. We're not gonna get frustrated if, you know, we don't see everything inclusive straight away, because that isn't how things work.

If you look back to history, it's been a long, long journey. And we are respecting and appreciating that there is so much work going on and, as Karl said, I'd agree, just checking in and listening to what the community is saying. Because the community is the people who experience it, so they'll know what they need best. But we know that there's loads of work going on. So, good times ahead, I think.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/na-gaeil-aeracha-are-marching-forward-with-pride/

CatFromHue

I don't know much about them, are they a recreational team or a competitive team?

People play sports with their bodies, not their genders. I can't get my head around this pretence that biological sex can be just disregarded because of the person not identifying with the gender most typically associated with their sex.

Also, while I agree with Bill Burr on the lack of support by women for women's basketball (seeing people say women soccer players should be paid the same as their male counterparts... how can that even be possible when women's soccer doesn't generate anything close to the same revenue as men's?)... you don't have to be sporty to recognise unfairness. If you're interested in fairness for women and girls, that's sufficient.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430100#Comment_119430100

The game that's sparked this I believe was the junior J championship semi final. So competitive but at the lowest tier.

This is an LGFA issue, not a GAA one. They are two separate entities completely distinct from one another.

chopperbyrne

https://twitter.com/FedMexTriatlon/status/1555200147965067267?s=20&t=T8EJ4zGI9rpmq8XEJA8Maw

Mexican Triathlon Federation is rejecting World Triathlon's decision.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431441#Comment_119431441

Is that a burrito in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? 😬

SnazzyPig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431785#Comment_119431785

Jesus wept!

greyday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431025#Comment_119431025

In fairness, the USA women's soccer team is more popular than the men's and deserve more pay as they generate more views/clicks/revenue.

Whatever chance other women's sports have of attracting big audiences would be hampered in my opinion if they included trans athletes, like it or not, when people watch women's sports they want to see biological women against biological women competing to see who is the best, the other/open category is a fair compromise but I suspect Trans women would not be anywhere near the front in that category.

newhouse87

https://twitter.com/UpsyDaisy666_/status/1555217011642404866

Cant but laugh really tbh. The pics are like something from rorys stories.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119433798#Comment_119433798

That twitter account and another that was commenting on the situation have been suspended, probably because of mass reporting. I didn't see anything that would warrant a ban

newhouse87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434468#Comment_119434468

https://twitter.com/Erithacus361/status/1555600921354199056/photo/1

no faces shown in this one, think people will get the drift without the faces. 2-9 as a sub not bad going tbf.

alan partridge aha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434578#Comment_119434578

I thought this was a p take, ffs have people lost their minds.

pleasant Co.

Natural born women just have to get better, that was one boards poster’s take on it recently - male-female segregation is keeping the females weak, if they have to compete directly with males then they’ll git gud - or some such BS.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434468#Comment_119434468

Harassment. Pretty obvious why it would be banned when the account has been harassing trans women. It says a lot that you think thats ok.

riddles

I found Rte”s exclusion of a trans woman on the panel for the womens GAA all reland a big step back for diversity and inclusivity.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119435944#Comment_119435944

Do you have screenshots? Like I said, I didn't see anything that would warrant a ban

CatFromHue

You play to the rules so people shouldn't have an issue with this player and club playing to the rules.

The issue should be with the rules themselves.

BruteStock

Mic drop moment

https://mobile.twitter.com/BlakeBlakebabee/status/1555734871225511938

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119436237#Comment_119436237

Why on earth would I be respreading the harassment 🙄

Quantum Erasure

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/ladies-football/lgfa-developing-policy-on-transgender-players-after-ladies-shield-final-incident-41894821.html

Seems there had been objections before the game,

Before the game, a Na Fianna manager approached the referee to question the presence of Giulia Valentino, a transgender woman, in the opposition team.

A source at the game said the referee initially believed Valentino was part of Na Gaeil Aeracha’s back room team until she won a high ball in the game’s first few minutes.

The referee, a man, stopped the game after the first break in play to tell Na Gaeil Aeracha that there was “a problem with your number 21” and told them “the player is a man”.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119440162#Comment_119440162

It’s gone totally viral now. That’s what happens when an account gets banned for the heinous crime of pointing out that one of the people in the picture is a man.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119441882#Comment_119441882

Conservatives making up ways that they're oppressed. It makes good red meat ratings.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119441931#Comment_119441931

Oh I don’t think anyone feels oppressed by that picture. What it is is hilarious to think that anyone could look at the picture and not see a balding man in his early 40s competing with a young woman for the ball in a team sporting competition. It wasn’t a kick about or a training session (even though that in itself would be weird, and dangerous)

No it was actually a competitive match…for ladies who like to play Gaelic football.

But apparently there are people who are insisting to twitter that stating the bleeding obvious (pardon the pun) is hate speech.

These same people claim that pitching a mature man against females in a notoriously physical team sport isn’t unsafe or unfair.

Unbelievable Jeff.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442039#Comment_119442039

I more mean the angle of making it go viral since Twitter doesn't want to be in the business of moderating the grey area of this hotly debated and often transphobic (but not always) area of public interest. Especially not at 100s of tweets per minute. By contrast the pace of this thread is relatively easy to manage.

DeadHand

I think this latest spectacle, that is a person who is clearly a man participating in and easily dominating a women's GAA match, is, paradoxically, a good thing.

It puts the cleansing light of day upon the anti-human demands of transgenderism as regards sport for a native audience.

The sooner the sporting public are aware of this nonsense, the sooner a debate around it will be had. The sooner the debate is had, the sooner the side of the truth, fairness and common sense will win out; as it already has elsewhere.

cheese sandwich

This GAA story is so ridiculous it’s like a parody created by the anti-trans lobby.

That bald dude ain’t no lady

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119441882#Comment_119441882

Thats what happens when you harass trans women.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442231#Comment_119442231

Sorry…who was harassing a trans person?

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442186#Comment_119442186

Absolutely. At some stage the whole circus was going to take just one step too far.

It just happens that a GAA club insisting on fielding a man in a womens competitive match on the grounds that he identifies as a woman, totally irregardless of the health and safety of any of the other players on the pitch, seems to have burst the dam.

Combine that with the front page banner headline on the Sindo regarding the Tavistock Clinic and people will surely wake up now to what’s going on right under their noses.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442516#Comment_119442516

The ref, by the sounds of things