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Most progressive legal system in the world?

  • 06-02-2022 3:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭


    What country is leading the world with the progressiveness of its legal system?


    By progressiveness, I mean the legal system serves the people rather than the legal industry. Cases are dealt with efficiently, and with expert, trained judges in each court (rather than people appointed as a political favour). The cost of bringing a case or defending yourself is not exhorbitant and essentially a system where the fulfillment of your rights in court do not depend upon how much money you spend to buy them.

    What country or countries have created such a legal system?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,455 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Shangri-la perhaps ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    The Big Rock Candy Mountain.



  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭sameoldname


    The Scandinavian countries of course. Ireland is 10th and the US is 21st for comparison.

    Source: WJP Rule of Law Index 2021 | World Justice Project



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Wow, Ireland ranked number 1 in the world for Order and Security.

    You wouldn't have guessed that judging from the media 3 weeks ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Simi


    As in most indexes, reports, studies and surveys, northern european countries come out on top. This is the first time Ireland has been included in the index so expect it to fall as time goes on and more data is gathered.

    Ireland may not be among the best when it comes to justice, but in fairness (legal) corruption is not obvious or widespread. Gardai do not go around looking for brides, judges are not bought by criminal gangs and violent crime is rare and shocking as evidenced by the public reaction 3 weeks ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,807 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Don't see why you would assume that, as more data is gathered, Ireland would be expected to fall down the list. Is this what has happened to other countries that were new entrants to the list?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,523 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    "Gardai do not go around looking for brides" - isn't that the whole purpose of Coppers?

    While we might not be overtly asked for bribes. there is a lot of petty corruption.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,807 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    According to the report, the level of police (and military) corruption in Ireland is about average for EU/EFTA North American countries (and also average for high income countries, which is a very similar group).

    Still, this is a weaker performance than for corruption in the executive departments of government, judicial corruption and corruption in the legislature, on all of which we are well below the average for these comparator groups.

    (Fun fact: the least corrupt branch of the Irish government, per the report, is the judiciary; the most corrupt is the legislature.)



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I suppose it depends on what you mean OP. We do have a different legal system to European countries.

    Don't know how happy the Irish would be with no juries either. I'm not sure about the trained judges part? Surely the fact that Irish judges have worked in the legal system for decades makes them highly trained?



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