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Storm Eunice - Friday 18th February - Wind & Snow Potential

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ah here now,Arklow has had 18 frosts since Jan 1st alone 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    Finally something exciting weather wise. Apart from one or two stormy days and some thunderstorms around New Year, it has been one of the most boring mundane winters in South Donegal. Next few days could certainly bring something wintry.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,845 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Arklow and the far south-east of the country probably did better from the high pressure in January in terms of frosty nights compared to the rest of the country. In meath we had about 2 proper nights frost in January but parts further west and north had barely a frost, a few hours at most here and there and very little sign of frosts by morning.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't know. From past experience he tends to overhype a potentially promising scenario, while more realistic posters tend to play it down, resulting in recriminations all round when the inevitable happens, and invariably these threads come to a toxic end. Sorry to be Mr Pessimistic, but that's just the way these threads go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,728 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    I'll settle for snow thanks. Boris can have his slightly windy day

    Currently perched at 167 asl overlooking the SW Atlantic.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,019 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Is this it?

    You know the memorable event of the Winter or are we to be missed again?

    Even if we are it's not really a surprise as this is a small deep system and only starts to develop on the jet from Thursday morning so could end up South of Cork in which case a lot see snow or direct over the centre in which case just the North. They do tend to veer slightly more North so some Coastal areas might well be in the Red zone for wind.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Storm Franklin Saturday morning????



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Met Éireann having an rte jizz moment again. Storm how are you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,668 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Aside from the fact that is total nonsense there are other threads, you don't have to use this one 🙄 Everyone's contrarian view and debate is welcome. I don't see anyone being more "realistic" than anyone else. I'm comfortable with my own track record FWIW and these threads, and everyone's threads, tend to be informative and fun for the most part

    Anyway, following today's model runs I remain on the bullish side. Hopefully by tomorrow evening we should have a much clearer picture.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Calling time on ya Kermit.


    But there's always time for another scoop, another Muppet Show encore and another twist in Irish weather watching



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,668 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ECM 18z is a slight upgrade on the 12z. The system a smidgen bit further south. The center remaining off the south coast which would be perfect. You can see how the temperature gradient is getting squeezed and, with time, gradually lower on the northern flank as the front slides eastward.

    I'd be content with that if it was still there tomorrow evening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    It's all about the storm this morning!

    Ukmo early hours Friday! A certain red!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    And the gfs a frame later!

    Storms and snow are not a match. This one's most definitely a storm!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    The icon still wanting to keep things off shore. We miss the storm but the South gets pasted!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    And last but not least the GEM

    So where are we this morning. The storm has nudged further North and so has the snow risk. A larger mild sector now showing at least temporarily! The wind is my main concern especially for my location. Methinks a red for Clare, Kerry and Cork



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Fingers crossed for icon trend to win out!! Dont like those winds on south coast.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,463 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The ECM and Arpege look to be on similar tracks now, through the inland south. That would tend to maximize the snow potential in central and northern counties, and keep extreme winds somewhat off the south coast (the strongest gradient depicted is a little too far south, although the winds coming in from the northwest into the Atlantic coast would be considerable).

    As JS has summarized, some models are a bit further north and the ICON is well south.

    Part of the problem for the models is that this storm has not really formed yet, it is supposed to develop very rapidly tonight along the frontal boundary laid down by departing Dudley, in a zone to the north of the Azores, and then whatever forms will run up along the frontal boundary wherever it stalls on Thursday night. Different models are estimating different locations for all that.

    I have included a satellite image here which may update for later viewers, check the time stamp on it, but at present you'll see that in the central Atlantic there is not much development around 40N along this long trailing front; that is where Eunice is going to pop out into the world later.

    Look for the enhanced cloud (jet streak) near 40N 40W and this is the general area of storm formation. They have a dedicated dropsonde indicated on upper air charts, there is an extremely strong low level jet in that area, 130 knots at 500 mb and 100 knots at 700 mb. These are very high values for those levels. At 250 mb it is a somewhat less unusual 200 knots. Those winds are howling away over top of a strong "thermocline" where the cold Labrador current has made a dent in the Gulf stream (SST values range from 2 C to 17 C over a rather short distance). But there is no organized low pressure system there yet, nor will there be much even by mid-day ...

    The RGEM model which has a finer grid than the GGEM shows slow development to 12z Thursday (it is now 06z Wed) with a 997 mb low forming by that time at 47N 25W. By 36 hours this is predicted to be close to 50N 17W at 969 mbs and undergoing capture by a developing upper low.

    Would say that there is so much development potential here that tracks cannot be entirely trusted yet, and certainly with those upper level wind parameters there is a risk of a damaging wind event in the south and/or southeast depending on track.

    I don't think we're going to know the answer to the track mystery until well into Thursday at the rate this comes together.



  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭YanSno


    ICON has it a tad north compared to previous runs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Spare a thought for our "Dublin is the centre of the universe" snow chasing posters:




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    A slight southern correction on 6z GFS. I've pasted below the equivalent frames from the 0z and 6z




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Unless you have a crystal ball showing you how this turns out it seems pretty premature (not to mention unhelpful) to be making such a post



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    It was an observation of how in recent years there was a prevailaing attitude that if it didn't happen in Dublin then it didn't happen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭mumo3




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,149 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    As a Corkman I'm as fond of a bit of Dub bashing as the next man😉, but I do think that assertion you make isn't right about the weather forum. Many of our best posters such as Kermit, GL, Weathercheck (before he turned to the dark side!) and many others are Dubs who frequently go out of their way to post about events that clearly will not affect Dublin but they do so as they are weather enthusiasts. Sure there is the odd Dublin d***head posting here but there are also Cork and Limerick and Galway etc d***heads too. Dublin hasn't got a monopoly on them.

    Back to the matter at hand, and right now Dublin's chances of snow are far better than my chances down here.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Keep it south please, the very strong winds are looking a bit too close to where I am in Cork for my liking. The greenhouse won't survive what some models are predicting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    yellow wind snow warning for friday.


    YAWN...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Baybay


    Anyone feel we got a bit of a storm taster last night?! Coastal Wicklow. No idea of direction or speeds, real weather boffin here but woke up hearing the wind buffet against the Velux about 2am. Few things that have previously been happy enough out there had been scattered around in the garden. Great craic this morning trying in the wind to put what had been the bungee secured cover back on the patio furniture! Still haven’t spotted where one of the solar lights ended up. Really looking forward to tonight!



  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭TTLF
    save the trouble and jazz it up


    I know people are fixated on the possibility of possible presistant snow, but does anyone else find it very interesting if we had a "Snow-rain-Snow" event? (East coast specific here) - Could make for a really interesting day lol



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,019 ✭✭✭pauldry


    I reckon the low centre will track right over the Munster area with rain and wind and some snow further North. Some gusts of 140kph likely on South Coast. Rest of country could get battered or lead a charmed life like many storms. May be Red South Orange Atlantic Yellow Rest and White North!



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