Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

AhhHere

What is he flogas standing charge do you know? Can only see unit price

gunnerfitzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014970#Comment_121014970

For gas it's the same as standard plan I believe - €239.98

Sheep Shagger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014063#Comment_121014063

Thanks, have updated the first page.

Gusser09

We are getting well and truly rode.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-households-paying-almost-1000-more-for-electricity-than-eu-average/a575360375.html

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015063#Comment_121015063

Comparing us to the EU average makes no sense. We are a small island with unique requirements and connect to the UK only. Of course we're more expensive. Been covered to death on this thread.

wassie

What requirements do we have that are so unique?

Our failure to upgrade the transmission network significantly over the last decade to allow the ramping up of renewables perhaps?

Good auld rip-off Ireland.

madscone

Rang Bor Gais about new offers (like some on here have mentioned) told new BG offers updated in the last 24hrs, but couldn't see them or avail of them as i had already submitted a move to flogas. So 30-44% discounts are possible with BG anyway. Staying with Flogas, see what happens within the cooling off period anyway

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015089#Comment_121015089

Our requirements don't and should not equate to paying more than double digit percentage points that mainland Europe. We are getting fleeced. It's that simple.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015207#Comment_121015207

Well considering we have different voltage and frequency standards to the rest of Europe, I'd say there are different requirements. Mainland Europe is one massive grid where energy can be imported and exported cheaply between countries. Nuclear in France can be sold to Spain when the sun isn't shinning. We don't have the luxury. We only have the UK. So yeah, I'd say we're unique.

We have failed to invest, does that make the current prices rip off? No it means we don't have the infrastructure, its nothing to do with rip off Ireland. 10 years ago we we're coming out of austerity, theres a pretty good reason we have not piled money into renewables. It's very easy to say in hindsight we should have. Hindsight is 20/20. Everyone else banked on cheap Russian gas, just like us.

We are a small island with a very small grid. Renewables are fairly new in the scheme of electricity generation. We couldn't have built a nuclear plant due to our size. We're always going to be expensive for electricity. The gas crisis exacerbates that. The implication of rip-off Ireland is that energy companies are making bank out of pure greed.

Shamo

Getting 38% gas and 6% elec discount on BG like others. Might be time to split away from duel fuel if I can get gas on its own from them with that discount.

Mantis Toboggan

The more we invest in renewables the more we seem to be paying for electricity. That's expensive wind.

RoyalTribesman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014452#Comment_121014452

What are the rates for the BWG electricity only offer? I haven't been able to find them (I have a nightsaver meter)

glen123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015429#Comment_121015429

33.38 day/14.75night

Aquos76

Rang BG this morning, as my move to Flogas has commenced they weren’t in a position to offer me a deal to stay, told me I’d have to way 20 days before they could offer me a deal. I asked them about these 44% and 38% discounts currently being offered, he told me as I was only a gas customer it’s was highly unlikely that’s I’d have been offered the the 44% discount. I pushed him on what discount I would have been offered but he maintained as o had left them, the system just wouldn’t allow him check.

if BG are genuinely now offering discounts like that, then they will be the best value supplier for existing customers, at 38% even, that’s a rate of 9.05c a unit and possibly a lower standing charge compared to Flogas.

Skyte

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120999401#Comment_120999401

I tried signing up with that electric only offer and they directed I cant use it as im on a smart tariff and to select a smart tariff. So, is there a smart tariff link available?

Aquos76

Rang BG this morning, as my move to Flogas has commenced they weren’t in a position to offer me a deal to stay, told me I’d have to way 20 days before they could offer me a deal. I asked them about these 44% and 38% discounts currently being offered, he told me as I was only a gas customer it’s was highly unlikely that’s I’d have been offered the the 44% discount. I pushed him on what discount I would have been offered but he maintained as o had left them, the system just wouldn’t allow him check.

if BG are genuinely now offering discounts like that, then they will be the best value supplier for existing customers, at 38% even, that’s a rate of 9.05c a unit and possibly a lower standing charge compared to Flogas.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015498#Comment_121015498

There is no smart tariff link at the moment. Aquos76 signed up on the normal link and it appeared to work but they have changed something internally to not allow that. There is no smart tariff deal atm.

Cape Clear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015357#Comment_121015357

Will they give you the 38% discount for gas if you are not taking up the dual fuel offer?

RoyalTribesman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015470#Comment_121015470

Thanks for that! Do you happen to know the standing charge as well?

P_Cash

BWG Staff Offer

Anyone know the 24hr standard rate for this offer, standard meter.

thanks

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015571#Comment_121015571

29.99 inclusive of VAT. Fixed rate for 12 months.

glen123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015563#Comment_121015563

Rural is higher.

derekbro

My Bord gais dual fuel contract is up today and they offered me 45% off gas and 5% off electricity (rates Below). They could'nt offer more than 8% off electricity so it still makes sense for me to move to flogas based on my usage so signed up using the BWG link today. Wouldn't offer 45% off gas only either.

Gas

Unit rates: 14.61 8.03 cent per kWh

Annual Standing Charge: €169.40

Electricity

24 hour rate: 48.19 45.78 cent per kWh

Annual Standing Charge: €281.12

Billy Mays

Good morning folks

Am currently with Bord Gais Energy (electricity only, don't have gas) having got the One Big Switch 33% off offer from this thread last year. Contract is up in mid October.

Apologies if this has been asked already (it's a big thread and I don't see any mention of it in the OP), does it matter if one has a smart meter and smart plan or not to avail of the Flogas BWG staff offer? Got a smart meter installed last year but don't have a smart plan (no intention of getting one at the moment either).

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015775#Comment_121015775

You can switch to FloGas BWG if you have a non-activated smart meter. Which by the sounds of it, you have.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015731#Comment_121015731

Whats to stop you waiting a month and switching your electricity to FloGas? What would happen to your gas discount?

Jasper79

So my Electricity discount expires with Energia today, Interested in moving to the Flogas Day/night rate as have an EV.

Current meter is smart but unactivated so I think this is okay .

But does anybody know what rates will Flogas charge between the time you switch and the new Day/Night meter is installed , would it be the 33C day rate ?

Billy Mays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015798#Comment_121015798

Thanks Bren.

Got the house rewired last year so ESB networks automatically installed a smart meter. Was with Energia at the time and spoke to one of their agents about potential plans with the smart meter. None of them were of any value to me so decided against it and just stayed on the fixed rate.

Trojan

We're on Energia Standard (Urban) and off contract now.

Paying ~ €2100 inc VAT annually, averaging 7.5kw/day at the moment as far as I can see.

Best deals available on bonkers are YUNO, everything else is more expensive. Some chat about YUNO earlier in this thread talking about them being not the real deal - can anyone clarify?

Are we as well to hold off moving for now and continue paying the non-discounted rates on Energia?

loup

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015054#Comment_121015054

Is it possible to update the first page with the BWG electricity rates and annual standing charge for smart meters please? Thanks