You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the right.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120053202#Comment_120053202

Since you've nothing but wailing and insults, let's just leave it there.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120053214#Comment_120053214

I'll gladly leave it here but the attempt at taking the moral high ground after misrepresentating my posts is noted.

nullzero

Communist North Korea maintaining their peaceful demeanor...

Oh sorry they're fascist because they're aggressive loonies, not like "real" communists who have only ever been interested in peace and love.

Overheal

NYPD giving Proud Boys the key to the city

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/100yrl5/proud_boys_allowed_to_commit_fare_evasion_in_nyc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

nullzero

Right wing nutters are dodging train fares in New York while left wing nutters are increasing their nuclear arsenal in North Korea.

Which is a greater threat to the world?

You guessed it, the proud boys...

growleaves

Claiming that x and y Communist countries are "right-wing" is some trick.

So were Castro and Mao right-wingers too?

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056393#Comment_120056393

First comment:

"Well, yea... Why would they treat their fellow officers like common rabble?"

Even normies on reddit have copped it that these groups are Feds.

SafeSurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120053067#Comment_120053067

The comment about the questionable judgement of some posters here is correct.

You are afterall, the poster who claimed, just a few days ago that

“The far right are the largest source of terrorist attacks today”.

Something that is entirely untrue.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120057861#Comment_120057861

Cuba, venezuala North Korea and China are definitively left wing but the definitions of right wing and left wing are so fluid now it is hard to define what side counties are on. I would think that Saudi Arabia, Russia and Pakistan are right wing but Right wingers in America would be against the ideals of at least two of those three countries. In post soviet union world the definition of left ad right wing has been blurred since its not all about economics.

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120053374#Comment_120053374

NK is a dictatorship and probably understands that the only reason they havent been "liberated" is due to the nuclear threat they may or may not pose.

not defending them at all but just recognising reality.

It was only the capitalist US that has ever actually dropped nuclear bombs on civilians but lets ignore that...

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060748#Comment_120060748

Point of fact, North Korea is a communist dictatorship, and of course their nuclear capabilities are a deterrent to invasion, that's why countries develop nuclear weapons.

Nobody is side stepping the reality that the US dropped nukes on Japan, although capatilism was hardly the motivation behind it.

It's a bit rich to say "let's ignore that" in reference to something that has no direct link to the topic and hasn't been raised on the thread before.

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060920#Comment_120060920

if someone stubs their toe in a "communist/socialist" country, all the righties will tut tut and say it"s "communisims" fault but if anything bad happens in a capitalist country, those same folks will clutch their pearls at the mere suggestion that capitalism could be at fault.

the right doesnt seem to think that we can critise NK and the likes of the proud boys at the same time.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060951#Comment_120060951

For clarity, I'm not part of "the right".

It is notable that "the left" seem to be largely incapable of accepting that North Korea is a communist country.

It's refreshing that you aren't arguing that point but the other argument that capitalism is the reason the US dropped nukes on capitalist Japan during WW2 is a odd rock to choose to die on.

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060993#Comment_120060993

capitalism, and the promoting/maintaining of that system, is a huge part of US foreign policy.

seems a bit weird to not recognise that but you do you.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120061008#Comment_120061008

Whoah, hang on, you started out saying that capitalism was the motivation behind the nuclear bombs being dropped on Japan in the second World War.

What you're saying now isn't the same thing.

If you want to discuss the military industrial complex being operated for profit you're pushing against an open door with me. In point of fact there are enormous profits being made in what is now a proxy war in Ukraine by US armament companies.

War has always been good for business in America but to say that the immorality of that excuses the immorality of communist regimes is a ridiculous stance. Both are wrong and one does not excuse the other.

Sudden Valley

I think both americas and soviet unions policy over the 50 years after WW2 were wretched but it is is strange to bring it up in thread about future threats. North Korea is the definition of a communist country possibly the only communist monatchy in existance but the bigger threat is their propping up by communist China. The biggest threats to world peace are Right wing Russia and Left wing China but both countries actions can be seen as a response to not wanting to be surrounded by and dominated by the US and its allies. Anyway i thought this thread was supposed to be about right wing terrorist groups ??

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120061060#Comment_120061060

The notion that right wing terrorist groups are a bigger threat to the world than communist basket case countries is being discussed right now because in light of the existence of the same makes a mockery of the proud boys being the biggest threat to the world.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120061081#Comment_120061081

The thread title just refers to dangers from the Right not the biggest threat to world peace. And i believe it was created only due to the overemphasising of the reach of Antifa and BLM, both groups that have declined in importance in last year. The proud boys are an embarassment to the Right though, created by a comedian and their only high point being called out in a speech by President Trump.

Large bottle small glass

I think an reasonable commentator would have major issues with the major right wing parties in our two most important neighbours; the USA and UK and the direction they have taken in the last 6/7 years.

The major problem in both jurisdictions is the gap and dialogue between both sides is massive and growing.

The advent of social media, the collapse of any semblance of any honest media has greatly accelerated the growing gap and distrust between both sides.

The left, which went all in with the Third Way of Blair and Clinton, are now remote from their traditional base and without the necessary support or unity to mount a meaningful long term challenge.

How do parties representing the poorer half of society for example square their support for immigration, almost without question when they are in direct conflict with their traditional base looking to rent or buy unaffordable housing? (As a landlord I can rent a 1 bedroom apartment tax free in Donegal or take half the same amount after tax from a long term resident).

How do I represent poorer people, immigrant or native, who have traditional and or religious believes at the same time as refusing to question any element of the gender issue? Gender issues don't effect me at all but the silence/nothing to see here reaction from the west in relation to the treatment of very young children in the Tavistock for example isn't going to play well with lower class poorer and traditional voters.

Mick Lynch is looking for pretty regular left leaning rights for his union while Starmer is almost mute and apologetic. Ditto for Brexit.

It's the lefts long term division in UK and USA are leaving pitch open to de Santis/QAnon and the rest of them.

Extremes on both sides have and will have opportunities to make real gains when the next shock economic or otherwise comes.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056590#Comment_120056590

There's nothing left wing about the DPRK. You must be joking.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060920#Comment_120060920

Alright so let's address it: the nukes were developed by the right wing military industrial complex and detonated on civilians by the right wing military industrial complex.

But the right wing is not dangerous huh (title confirmed again)

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066008#Comment_120066008

They were dropped on Japan who were allied with Nazi Germany during World War 2.

The right wing angle isn't really working out for you here.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066000#Comment_120066000

There's nothing left wing about communist North Korea?

What this demonstrates is how abhorrent the far left can be, you're a western leftie and you're disgusted by North Korea but your being a modern western leftie informs why you cannot associate the obvious negative characteristics of North Korea with the left wing.

Seriously Overheal, they're a self described communist nation, you must be joking.

SafeSurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066008#Comment_120066008

A capitalist military industrial complex that was able to deliver an atomic weapon ahead of other military industrial complexes because it was a superior system.

Left wing regimes killed many multiples more civilians than those killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Mostly the regime’s own civilians.

Do you think a left wing regime, which had already murdered swathes of its own citizens would have baulked at using the atomic bomb if it could have developed it? Really?

Also you may be interested to know that the weapon that has killed many, many more people, including civilians than the atomic bomb was created by a left wing military industrial complex. The AK47.

Also, the atomic weapons were developed by arguably the most left wing US President in history.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120066116#Comment_120066116

Nazi Germany were allies with Communist Russia longer than with Japan, which was just a marriage of convenience rather than the deeper link up between the 3rd Reich and USSR.

SafeSurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067243#Comment_120067243

No.

The anti Comintern pact was signed in 1936.

The Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact lasted less than two years.

growleaves

General Curtis LeMay ("Bombs away with Curtis LeMay!") wanted nuclear bombs dropped on North Korean cities during the Korean war.

General MacArthur wanted nuclear bombs dropped on the bridges and tunnels along the Yalu River to stop the Chinese troops crossing over into Korea, isolating the DPRK.

Harry Truman wouldn't allow it.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067243#Comment_120067243

Same lie over and over and over again.

Igotadose

US Government frozen to a standstill for the last 2 days dur to actions of the extreme right-wing bits of the GOP. Remind me again how the threat's not coming from the right? Because it has arrived.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120068867#Comment_120068867

The extreme bit is wagging the rest of the Republican party.