Why do grown men actively prop up fellow grown men(rugby players, footballers)

backwards_man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118815479#Comment_118815479

OP you seem to view this as a one sided transaction ie what you want in a sexual partner. What do you think a woman sees when she meets you? If you were somehow to 'bag' one of these unobtainable creatures, a 'hottie', what would you talk about? what would you do on sunday afternoon together? is there anything remotely interesting going on in your life that would make a woman who could have anyone she wants (in irish terms LOL), enjoy spending an afternoon with you?

My point is, if you are quiet, shy, introverted, you are likely to have friends who are the same and women of similar personalities, are likely to be attracted to you. But you dont value them. You are not interested in a connection with a plain Jane, you put a high value on physical traites in women but maybe those women are awful to be around 24/7, interested only in their looks or your money. Or maybe they are exhausting to be around and you would lack the energy to be "on" constantly. But you would be happy with that as long as they were perceived by others to be a prize. You could be overlooking a really cool, happy, plainer woman who doesnt fit your somewhat warped view of what constitutes a high prize.

Its a really shallow and immature view of women more akin to a teenager than a 30 something. That you have articulated all that you have here, is worrying.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118817820#Comment_118817820

It’s not a comprehension issue, it’s a moronic point issue. Where should the “average” man be spending his hard earned cash? Fcuk spending it on something he enjoys, BrianD3 has all the answers. Let’s hear them.

BrianD3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118817940#Comment_118817940

LOL, so you've moved on from misrepresenting me as being pro corporation and are now trying a different tactic.

Keep on cuckin, Fandymo.

First thing I'd suggest to sports fans would be to get up off their arses and actually participate in sport rather than roaring at the Aviva or in front of the TV and licking sportstars arses on social media. Invest the money saved. Make money off the consumers instead of being a consumer.

As I stated already, I have a sky sports subscription so I'm not perfect, Then again I am debt free, own property and have over a million in investable assets - so it's not going to impoverish me. I don't purchase "merchandise".

I'm curious about how many posters here buy replica shirts of their heroes. That's assuming of course that they aren't too fat to fit into said shirts.

If you wear a sportstar's shirt in the presence of a woman and she is even vaguely aware of who that star is, in her subconscious, your status is lowered while his is raised.

Major international stars are detached from normal life but there are thousands of big swinging mickey GAA players around the country who are in the circle of male supporters and their partners. Will your partner cheat on you with the local centre forward? If she has his child, hopefully it looks vaguely like you do and you can sweep the sorry episode under the carpet.

I know of cases where men have been in relationships with women since they were both teenagers and are raising children which quite obviously aren't theirs. People then talk, gossip and sneer. A common sneer is when someone "accidentally" refers to the child as "young Smith" where the local dumb jock's name is Smith. A jock who would be nothing were it not for the support of other men. Case closed, point proven.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118817820#Comment_118817820

They’re not really hero worshipped. Most men after their mid 20s follow sport in order to relax at the weekend. This might involve a trip to the pub in order to talk shite. The coincidental and unfortunate by product of this is multi millionaire sportsmen because following sports costs way too much money these days. It’s still the same as it ever was though. People have always supported sports and put the best on some sort of pedestal even going back to Roman times.

it makes absolutely zero impact on anyone else’s ability to be happy and meet a compatible mate. Zero.

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818419#Comment_118818419

I am very happy that your view is shared by a small minority, judging by attendance at sporting events.

Talk about sucking the joy out of the world.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818419#Comment_118818419

Oh I'd love to be a fly on the wall in your bedsit when you step away from the keyboard and face reality.

Probably been said already, but this is incel stuff

The weird paranoia in this thread off the scale!

How do you go around this freaked out about other men? Do you really go around thinking other men are out to get you all the time? It must be an incredibly stressful existence.

I mean, to me other guys are people I hang out with, friends, colleagues, random strangers, people whose company I really enjoy, they’re funny, chatty, empathetic, supportive, mostly would go out of their way to cheer ya up, helpful and certainly aren’t going around trying to steal my other half.

Also you’re talking about women as objects and possessions and they’re also people I hang out with, and have all the same characteristics as too.

What kind of weird world do you live in? I mean you sound like you’re going around trying to possess women, imagining competition with other men that doesn’t exist and not interacting with people as .. ya know.. interesting people.

If you had a chat with some humans and got to know them a bit better, you might actually find they’re nice and you might find you’d build a relationship and maybe not be single, as opposed to bizarrely blaming rugby players !?

You’re really missing out on a whole aspect of life - the entire fun part of being a human all the interactions and building connections.

Padre_Pio

The world doesn't owe you anything.

We live in Ireland, probably one of the best countries in the world for equality of opportunity.

It's up to you as an individual to make the best life for yourself. Getting bitter at the world for not meeting your expectations is pointless.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818419#Comment_118818419

Hahahaha, cuck, talking about jocks in the GAA context and obsessed with women cheating on you hahahahahaha.

All that time and money you invest in yourself and still alone and jealous of your local GAA players. Maybe less time on US PUA and Incel sites and more time in the real world would stand to you buddy.

El Tarangu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118815853#Comment_118815853

Very strange reasoning - George Clooney and Brad Pitt have pulled better-looking women than me and live in bigger houses, nicer cars, etc. Tbh if I ever gave any thought to it, it would be the briefest of 'oh well, good for them, fair dues' - should I instead refuse to watch any films or television programmes (other than those featuring Danny DeVito or Marty Morrisey, who I am more confident on being to compete with, looks-wise) on the likely assumption that one of the male co-stars finds it easier to pull young wans? Seems like I would be cutting my nose off to spite my face, in that scenario - I would still have no chance with Amal or Jennifer Aniston, but would not have the witty dialouge and cool action sequences of 'Oceans' Eleven' to soften the blow.

KieferFan69

I’d say Jaime heaslip has some serious sex moves on him in fairness, quite the lover I imagine

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118819858#Comment_118819858

Maybe so, but he's been in a relationship for over a decade and has two kids.

Unless he and his wife are swingers, there's no competition there.

KieferFan69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820085#Comment_118820085

Guys like heaslip always have a few girls on the side, RTE interns, fans from book signings, hangers on at promotional events. When you reach that level of success it’s expected and he is a good looking successful guy

KieferFan69

He’ll be boning right left and centre

Am I correct in thinking that this thread is about me living my life through Jamie Heaslip because I watched the 6 Nations at the weekend

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811173#Comment_118811173

Most people don't really get the point of your thread because if you have enough of the basics like basic charm, normal looks, normal job,, normal craic, then you would be able to get a partner. Then you wouldn't have to worry about other people so much.

bejeezus

Ah Jesus, you don’t even have to be normal to have another half. You just have to be kinder, OP. Be nicer to the women and they will come!

caveat: I really haven’t a clue but I will surmise

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820168#Comment_118820168

Or perhaps it's that you're responsible for him boning left, right and centre?

I just hope you didn't buy any merchandise making him richer at your expense.

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820159#Comment_118820159

I doubt it. Open to be proven wrong, but infidelity in the days of social media and celeb gossip wouldn't be a secret for long.

KieferFan69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820308#Comment_118820308

As a female you’ll know what it’s like to be attracted to heaslip

you can bet your bottom dollar he is boning outside the marital bed four or five times a year, these guys tour Africa as rugby ambassadors every few years and on those trips alone they are laying a good few

bejeezus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820475#Comment_118820475

But what about the OP and his argument? We are veering away from it here. His view, often labelled ‘toxic masculinity’ or incel culture, is still too popular on sites like boards. Anyhow, we need some bad ass feminist to teach him a thing-or two??

Ave Sodalis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118816859#Comment_118816859

You should read his contributions to any other thread vaguely related to women and/or dating. Just in case you want it even more obvious.

bejeezus

I think I’m going mad reading this thread. It has that effect.

EmmetSpiceland

I always found that girls much preferred someone like Tommy Bowe to Heaslip. Jamie was very overly “popular”, nice guy to chat briefly with.

Hope his new lease plan business goes well for him.

KieferFan69

The OP is silly. When it comes to sports, some people admire the skills on display. Some are attracted to the athletes. But you would have to be a cretinous and charmless individual to think you are in direct competition with the beautiful barbarians of the rugby field when it comes to chatting up pretty little yanks in Killarney (minxs) or lonely Azerbaijanis outside the entrance to the arcade.There are enough babes and lookers to go around. Heaslip can have his and I can have mine too, there are enough. There is an older gent I see down the pub who probably does as well as heaslip, picks up a few lookers a couple times a year for himself and he is probably in his 60s

KieferFan69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820534#Comment_118820534

heaslip will age better than Tommy (from the point of view of females). Tommy is a bit simple in the head (fine when you are younger) and is becoming feminine. I like Tommy but he sounds a little silly when he is going on about the lads slapping each other on the bum on commentary, you can bet even though heaslip is wearing a jacket and shirt he is ripped underneath, still works out and has good business sense($$$)

bejeezus

Rabbit hole of a thread

This thread is disturbing and sad. You can almost tangibly see the OP at war with himself. OP, if you are genuine/sincere, please get help.

Mike Murdock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818419#Comment_118818419

Any Irish person using the words Jock, Cuck, Cucking, or other derivatives of those terms should just be ignored.

What next, will you be telling us we are blue-pilled and not red-pilled?

bejeezus

GAA is a load of posturing too! All a load of crap, but I still think you need help. Good luck with it

Not every woman would cheat with a sports star given the opportunity

It's no boast for a sports star to cheat on wife/ children.

I wouldn't think much of him for that.

AyeGer

Completit if you can't compete for the type of girl you seem to think you deserve, lower your standards to your own league.

bejeezus

He’s kinda in a league of his own!

witchgirl26

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118817077#Comment_118817077

Ok but this is quite a simplistic view - the love song & movie version is boy meets girl, they fall in love, end of movie or song. Except that's not the end in the real world. In the real world, that's just the teeny tiny part at the beginning. Then is the slighter harder work of actually making a relationship work together and forming a partnership. And it doesn't mean that the song & movie love stories are a fantasy - but they only tell part of the tale. A real love story lasts a lot longer, has ups as well as downs & isn't all flowers & roses all the time. My parents had a love story - met, engaged, married in the space of a few months, over 30 years together. Laughed with each other, had kids, had a good life on balance. However it doesn't mean there weren't tough times, or arguments or problems.

Genuinely, & I know others have mentioned this but almost as an insult, but I do think you need to talk to a professional about this whole thing. Projecting any failures onto famous people is just as bad as what you're stating in your OP about men propping them up. It is not some random famous (even if just in local circles) men that are causing you not to be able to form a meaningful connection with someone. That is down to you. Nothing else. Not everyone wants the sports star. Trust me. I wouldn't have gone near a GAA player in my dating days for love nor money! All those weeknights of training, matches at the weekend, no going away during the summer because of tournaments. No thanks at all. I much preferred someone who could actually be around.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118814596#Comment_118814596

Just on the second paragraph there - I like rugby as a sport. I don't particularly care about the prestige or any of that that goes with it. I find it an entertaining sport to watch. That's all. And that paragraph alone would make me not want to have much to do with you if you think that little of women. Why would a woman want to be in a relationship with you when you think we're as basic as that that all we care about is success and prestige of a famous person. That might be attractive in the beginning but it doesn't form any basis for actual life or relationships. And success can be measured in many different ways that just a sporting achievement or ability or being the CEO of a business.

lawrencesummers

Its threads like these where im thankful some people dont have access to weapons like they do across the big pond.

KieferFan69

The lads that go to France are surely enjoying that action, imagine being an ambassador over there with all these French girls, bam bam bam against your thick thighs hahaha I’d love it but I’m not muscular still glad these guys go and live out their dreams ( urges)

laoisgem

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118826544#Comment_118826544

Cop the *ufk on FFs

EmmetSpiceland

The worst thing about going to France is that there are no toilet bowls in Stade de France.

They’ve just got the “squat holes” in the ground, not ideal.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058238144/why-do-grown-men-actively-prop-up-fellow-grown-men-rugby-players-footballers

Why does this bother you as an issue. That's the real question here?

It happens its part of life end of.

El_Duderino 09

@completedit

Believe me I am not bald or anything like it. I'm 32, I know where my value lies in the eyes of women,

Where does your value lie in the eyes of women?

Ps I'm not sure what exactly that means but its your phrase so I'm curious about what you mean.

KieferFan69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118826664#Comment_118826664

??? That cannot be true?

KieferFan69

He is intimating about his privates I think. You are dead right, men like this really don't understand women because they do not even understand themselves. Looks are important, for example I have always been attracted to brunettes with darker complexion, always, since the day I left the cot, love Irish ladies too as long as I’ve been here god knows I have laid a few to rest, but really, people want to be listened to and really seen, not be invisible in your eyes, and they like the craic, so while we cannot all look like heaslip we can be kind and patient and develop a living soul like a candle to attract the female

Kermit.de.frog

Careful now. Last time I accidentally used the word female to describe the opposite sex on here I had my ballsed tazed (in the methophorical sense).

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118827441#Comment_118827441

Yeah, last time I was there the stalls had no seats, just the porcelain hole in the ground.

I know they are supposed to be much better for your back, and that, but that’s not what you want after a long afternoon of drinking.

I’m sure the players, and dignitaries, “area” has normal toilets but the plebs didn’t get the luxury. Maybe that’s changed since, I was there a good few years ago now, but I don’t know.

KieferFan69

I’m sure you are having me on, the French have come a long way

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118827544#Comment_118827544

Well if boardsies don't like that they must be incandescent with rage at the society-wide use of the insulting term 'white males'