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Hunter Biden

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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Are you saying that the emails confirming the amounts he and his company were paid by Ukrainian and Chinese companies are not newsworthy facts, but just gossip?!

    Speculation that he was qualified and did good work for these companies is gossip, as there is certainly no evidence of what work or when or how he performed that work.

    The fact he was paid for the work, is just that - fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Are you saying that the emails confirming the amounts he and his company were paid by Ukrainian and Chinese companies are not newsworthy facts, but just gossip?!

    I trust you've read the thread, even the last IDK, 10 or so posts. WaPo for example, could only verify 22,000 of those 128,755 emails allegedly on the drive.

    So what it "confirms" is yet unclear except maybe in the mind of the reader. Does it equally and simply confirm that Giuliani or his sympaticos planted evidence supporting these allegations.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭hometruths


    So what it "confirms" is yet unclear except maybe in the mind of the reader

    Well we can agree on that. In your mind the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop remain gossip.

    In mine, its news - based on what NBC reported as fact after, in their own words, "an NBC News analysis". Given that NBC were one of the outlets that shied away from the story originally due to concerns over verification, it stands to reason that now that they are not just reporting the story, but reporting the findings of their own analysis, they are satisfied that whatever emails they are reporting on are authentic.

    i.e those emails that confirm Hunter Biden and his company brought in about $11 million via his roles as an attorney and a board member with a Ukrainian firm accused of bribery and his work with a Chinese businessman now accused of fraud.

    And as I pointed out, they have not reported on how the big guy's 10% was accounted for, presumably because they have no evidence or verification of that.

    All laudable journalism as far as I am concerned. Bit confused as how it can be dismissed as gossip, of whatever flavour, but we can agree to disagree I'm sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    This thread is very quite especially with all the latest revelations.

    My favourite at the moment is 4Chan discovering what name Hunter had Joe saved under on his laptop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    10% for the big guy


    Remember before the election that all the stories about Hunter were Russian disinformation and how they suppressed and banned anyone who talked about it, fun times. **** morons!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Labaik


    Can't wait for this news to break on CNN and MSNBC. The liberals are in full nothing to see here mode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    So we've moved from Hunter is a crim, to Joe Biden is a wrong 'un, off the back of the journalistic rigour of...*checks notes*...4Chan?

    Media literacy should be taught in schools, that's all I have to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Labaik


    Is the info wrong? Doesn't matter if Satan respawned and broadcasted it once its legitimate.


    Hunter Biden should be facing criminal prosecution and everybody who denounced the first leaks a few years back as fake news need to take their heads out of the sand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    What exactly should he be facing prosecution for and what has it got to do with POTUS?

    What info are we talking here? Once again, where's your smoking gun? All we have is a crack addict with no-show jobs from peddling his name, and a photodump of him with brazzers.

    Giddy 4Chan neckbeards are falling a good bit short of Watergate I'm afraid. Still on the Pizzagate choo choo train with nothing learned after all of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Well that's definitely it, I'm never gonna vote for Hunter Biden.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I hope any evidence of crimes committed by Hunter Biden are fully investigated and charges brought where necessary. No one is or should be above the law.

    But doing drugs with prostitutes and redirecting charitable donations meant for facilities to treat sick children to your own hotels and properties are two very different things. Not to mention Trump's kids were very active in Trump's entire presidency whereas Hunter is not.

    People trying to draw false equivalences all over the shop. Hunter is bad, therefore Joe is bad, therefore Trump isn't as bad. It's pure nonsense.

    The impact of the revelation of the contents of Hunter Bidens laptop would probably also have been much greater if Trump, Fox et al weren't using it as the boogeyman to deflect attention from whatever scandal happened to be plaguing Trump for the last 3 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    He definitely shouldn’t run for re-election!

    Time to drop out of the race.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Why tf was this guy compulsively filming and photographing all his misdeeds though? Beyond weird. It's almost like he's trolling people at this stage with amount of **** he was documenting that would have us lesser mortals in very serious trouble. What a dick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Are you joking? Go on twitter, tik tok, Facebook or a myriad of any other social media platforms and you will see people doing worse things. He was a junkie, he banged some hookers.

    FFS we have had elected officials in every country do that so why does it matter that HB (a private citizen) did it other than he is JB's son and there are (very weak) allegations being made about money being passed.

    MMeanwhile we have the Trump children making millions from their "positions" in the WH, Ivanka's China patents and Jared Kushner getting billions from MSB and Trumps acolytes don't even want to comment on it 🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Ah it's about time this Hunter guy was discussed here. He's an absolute mess and needs help. But his dirty deed's should be accounted for. His aulfella wanted to put junkies away for five years before. But now that it's his own kin, he has empathy for the addict in his own family. Which is understandable. The moral of this story is, don't count your egg's before they crack. Hunters a sick man, and what some of us did in spades he did in diamonds.

    Diamond's are a lot more costly. But do the crime do the time as they say. I'd say he's up to his eyeballs in it.

    Because he's from a liberal background,it doesn't mean he's liberated from responsibility. The amount of ripples his actions and acting out has caused, he should be accountable.

    Pity he doesn't go from Park avenue to Park bench...

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    You revealed yourself with that last paragraph. No consistency, just pure hypocrisy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Speaking of China! More dodgy dealings Hunter seems to be a. Blind spot for Papa Joe




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Eh.... Is Joe Biden deciding where private companies ship the oil to? You're making a pretty huge leap to reach the conclusion you have.


    The highest bidder got the oil and shipped it abroad. What was Biden's influence?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,955 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Why are the Trump children fair game for comment on the Trump thread yet Hunter Biden is off limits and exiled to his own thread, even now when the laptop has been confirmed as his ??

    Trump, Melania and his children can be labelled every obscenity under the sun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    So you took drugs and shagged prostitutes?


    I've never done either of those, does that give me the right to look down on you & call you a junkie? Should you be investigated for these crimes?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Maybe that's a question to ask the mods who make these decisions and not me... a poster who doesn't make these decisions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Lol that's all in your head lol

    I did stupid things when I was drinking, but never slept with hooker's or took drugs.

    I sold myself short by sleeping rough and ha financial regrets....

    There's a difference between spades and diamonds lol

    Be a good lad now and retract your assumptions....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    You said you did what he did, he took drugs and shagged prostitutes 🤷‍♂️



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's called hypocrisy, and the political left / Democrats have mastered the art of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Hey back off or I'll throw my lunch + plate at you and maybe even grab you by the pussy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    No I didn't, you're a goody two shoes and always had a clean slate.

    So you don't know what's it's like to say what he did in diamonds I did in spades. You can put "done stupid things" in brackets....



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Directly involved in the administration generally so somewhat different. Eg snake cited something as a conflict of interest that Joe doesn't have an influence.


    Given their family history, the fact one of them started abusing drugs isn't exactly surprising. George Bush had plenty of substance abuse problems including cocaine. His kids had problems too iirc but was irrelevant to his presidency.


    And given the fact that they're a nation in the midst of an opiate crisis, I'm inclined to say a lot of people would be pretty sympathetic towards addiction.


    Either way not related to the Biden presidency and tbh, it's largely rejoicing in a person's misery tbh. Any crimes he's committed, he should have prosecution for. However, I've yet to see Joe being remotely implicated in anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The difference is that trumps children were employed by the white house. they took advantage of an official position to make money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    A couple of reasons you could probably figure out easily enough if you thought about it.

    Firstly, Trump's family were a part of his administration (Ivanka and Jared, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Lara) or constantly with him on oversees trips, or being his representative on news shows, or campaigning with him (Don Jr and Eric who weren't given official roles but were obviously a big part of Trump's overall team). Ivanka, Jr and Eric were also caught up in many of the scandals directly related to Trump himself.

    Secondly, Hunter, aside from big family events, plays no role in the administration, and if anything the Bidens probably keep him out of the public life or any association with the administration, due to his history and behaviour. He's not part of the administration like Trump's kids were, and therefore the contents of his laptop aren't even really relevant to the Joe Biden presidency thread until someone can show the effect it is having on Biden's presidency.

    Thirdly, Hunter & his laptop have been used as a "whatabout" in the Trump thread for years to the point where it was constantly being brought up to deflect from or diminish whatever scandal Trump and his kids were involved in. "Upcoming scandal about Trump? Well I heard someone had Hunters laptop and there's stuff on his laptop!" The actual stuff on the laptop didn't matter but it was used as a deflection/rabbit hole to pull the thread into that it was likely threadbanned for that reason.

    So now there's a thread solely about Hunter's laptop. What's the problem? You have a place where you can discuss it to your hearts content without it being off-topic. It's being treated as such a big issue that it has a thread dedicated solely to it. What's the issue with that?

    My guess is, your issue with that is you can't use it in the Trump thread to defend and whatabout Trump's actions, and you can't use it in the Biden thread to attack him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Even looking back at old TV shows and movies, I remember in Dallas, Jr or Richard Channing in Falcon Crest would down his pills with whiskey or brandy. You're damn right about the opioid crisis. It was common place on TV shows and movies pills in the morning, pills at night, pills for life lol

    I don't see it as often as before on TV, well I don't watch much TV these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    This is what I'm talking about media literacy. You're taking a low-resolution muckrake article from a no-name publication called "The Washington Free Beacon" (alarm bells anyone?) as fact, when a cursory Google would reveal to you that Hunter Biden is completely divested from that private equity firm for years now.

    If someone finds political malfeasance on the part of Joe or Hunter Biden with oil contracts, throw the book at them. But you've churned up nothing and are actively pushing disinformation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I'm no goody 2 shoes, but I can honestly say I've never taken drugs or shagged a prostitute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    It doesn't really bother me what you do for kicks, kudos to you for not being a goody two shoes.

    I accept you're being honest, no harm done 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭realdanbreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    if he gets a job at the White House and gets security clearance over the recommendations of national security experts, then Hunter Biden and the Trump adult children will be comparable. He doesn’t even run an ice cream stand for Dad, much less a self named Org or Corporation




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Because I don't fry my brain with drugs or fùck women who sell their bodies for money? If that makes me "a goody 2 shoes" in your eyes then that seems like a problem for you not me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I'm all the fun, I just don't risk disease from prostitutes or inject/smoke/snort whatever this weeks drug of choice is for the lower IQ among the population. Does this mean I'll never make it into the cool kids club?





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    You should be sexually assaulting women by grabbing them by the pussy. They LOVE that. That's what REAL men who speak their mind do, don't you know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pretty telling that the posters have disappeared after nonsense debunked about oil to China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Just because you day it has doesn't make it so..

    As for Hunter. He was seen front and centre at a medal ceremony greeting guests I suppose it's the only gig he can get while his dodgy dealings are being investigated




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Just because you [s]ay it has doesn't make it so..

    No, really, it was debunked.


    Hunter attending a ceremony at the WH is the biggest scandal right now? Hell of a nothingburger, he's the son of the President, not an employee at the WH.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Attending an event, horrifying. So Hunter Biden doesn't currently have direct/indirect relationships with the Chinese company, he did in the past. And finally, the oil is sold to the highest bidders who ship it across the globe including China. Now which part have I gotten wrong? If none of the above is wrong, then what is the scandal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The 'scandal' is that it's not more corrupt than what the Trumps did and is getting proportional coverage so its unfwaiirrr.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    He's some piece of work for sure, a real low life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Kinda feel rickrolled, I thought you were bumping the thread with something constructive, like maybe an update in his Grand Jury, or fresh reporting on new alleged evidence if any.



    ...

    New York Post looks like the most recent to bleat about it, complaining about the lack of transparency Grand Juries typically have. Not unusual for it to go on for months, they're only allowed so many days/weekends in the month with the Grand Jurors. When you're selected for Grand Jury Duty it's not like the Draft or anything you still lead your life.

    If selected, a juror serves an average of three to five days during a term of court. Grand Jurors convene monthly for one to three days during the 12-18 month term of service.


    So as a practical matter you can see why, since march, the Grand Jury may have only heard evidence against Hunter Biden so far for a limited number of days since March when it convened. Probably about 2 weeks worth of days in court, and Grand Jurors are not necessarily exclusively attached to a single case, a GJ convened by a court for the tenure is there for 12-18 months to hear all manner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Republican Senator Chuck Grassley tries to create drama with the FBI by alleging a cover-up of Hunter Biden information and then seemingly demands to begin his own investigation as the 'ranking member' of the Judiciary committee - the 'chairman' however is Senator Durbin (D) and this inquiry isn't being requested by the Judiciary Committee.

    Not clear if any of the complaints Grassley is talking about fall under Whistleblower Protection - they caused a great big stink about this issue when it came to the Whistleblower that spurred the Impeachment of Donald Trump, because that whistleblower had not fallen under that protection, allegedly.



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