TV Coverage

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119798654#Comment_119798654

In every league in the world it's the league that decides which games are ultimately broadcast regardless of which format or TV station are used.

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119798157#Comment_119798157

I dont think €10 a game is actually to bad you would spend 20 plus to get in the gate

If GAAGO was brought to the same streamming level as other OTT services or even slightly improved i would buy a season pass

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119798739#Comment_119798739

It is bad value if the service is a one or two camera setup with little or no production values/analysis. Let's wait and see but can't see it being anywhere near the standard of other sport streaming services.

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119798807#Comment_119798807

I think you hit nail-on-head for how it’ll be, and they’ll still charge the €10 for it

dohboy

The split season and this TV deal shows the GAA want to downgrade the inter-county game as it's got too big for its boots.

lertsnim

There has to be some kind of season pass for these GAA Go games.

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119799610#Comment_119799610

That's pay per view which was the whole argument thrown at the Sky deal.... "How will the loyal club members watch all the matches/it should be free to air etc etc etc."

lertsnim

It's pay per view if paying per game or paying for all of them in one package. It would be a good incentive to have a package with all games at a lower cost.

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119800114#Comment_119800114

How is it good to pay for this but it was bad to pay for Sky? What happened to the argument about the proverbial auld lad "great clubman" in Mayo who can't watch games any more on free tv and shouldn't have to pay?

At the end of the day there'll be nearly 50% more matches next season in the football championship alone, while the number of televised games is being cut by 31%. Massive step back in coverage. There's going to be plenty of "big games" next season behind the GAA Go paywall or not available at all. Can't wait for the uproar as there was with Sky.

dohboy

Those who complained about Sky will be happier, in theory, to pay a tenner for a single game knowing the money is going to the GAA/county board etc. That said they will have to settle for crappier production values and potentially unreliable streaming.

I don't see how GaaGo will appeal to the older/computer illiterate generation either, over Sky. Much handier for them to have Sky than fiddling with a streaming service.

lertsnim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119800804#Comment_119800804

Sky are gone. Sky decided to go. There is no point debating the pros and cons. May aswell be talking about TV3 as they also had those games before Sky but they're gone too.

And nowhere did I say paying for GAA Go was good.

theoneeyedman

Can't understand how a private company not based in this country cannot be made to show these (relatively obscure in world terms) sports - it's a disgrace Joe.

I'm no fan of Sky, but either way they are no longer relevant to this discussion imho.

I can see why the GAA would want to control the broadcasting of their games, bring it in house so to speak. In many ways, TV (both terrestrial and satellite) are old tech, streaming and online is where it's at now and where its going. It makes sense for the GAA to cut out the middle man as much as possible stragetically and control the coverage of the games themselves.

Let's see how it pans out and where it's at by the end of this deal.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119801211#Comment_119801211

But the money was always going to the GAA.

Sky paid the GAA for the rights.

Now it's just going straight to the GAA, they have to supply the platform but they also get the revenue.

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802006#Comment_119802006

While I get what you're saying about streaming being the new tech, the latency/delay is massive compared to over the air or satellite. GAA Go is at least a minute behind the live action. Plus the stream quality is very poor, especially for hurling. Hopefully they'll put money into it to improve the quality but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

howiya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802006#Comment_119802006

Cutting out the middleman is a huge financial risk for the GAA. I wouldn't be confident that the revenue from streaming will replace the lost income from a second broadcaster.

Maybe they're hoping gate receipts will improve too for matches that are streamed.

munchkin_utd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802913#Comment_119802913

it seems that the move to GaaGo for the sky package wasnt their first option and they were not planning on expanding GaaGo so soon.

But, dont forget, this is not soccer. Tv rights are NOT the main income of the organisation. I saw in various accounts that theres about €35 million of central gate reciepts and my reading about 15million of provincial championships. Thats 50 million of gate reciepts.

That compares with 14million for all media income so RTE/ Sky/ TG4/ BBC/ radio. If sky is 1/3 of that (my random figure plucked out of the air) then thats a shade under 5 million.

So, next year without sky and before taking into account any GaaGo increases, they might have about 60million rather than 64 million of joint gate and media income. I am not sure that the association is under huge financial risk by now having to make up the difference through GAAgo.

If it works it works. If it doesnt, there 2 to 5 million Euro less in grants given out. The organisation wont go bust over the lack of sky or the lack of success of GaaGo. Its a bit of an unplanned experiment but nothing to be too alarmed about

theoneeyedman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802900#Comment_119802900

I know what you're saying up to a point, but in real terms how much of an issue is the latency when you're watching a game?

I watch streamed games all of the time, personally I don't mind it. Maybe if you're on twitter getting info from people at the game, or watching on a different medium (TV), or gambling on the live action, it's an issue, but personally I don't see a problem (maybe it's just me)

Like, TV coverage itself is almost instant, but it's not fully instant either, there is a slight lag.

roadmaster

The big games that will be on GAAGo will they not have full RTE production anyway as these will be shown on the sunday game Highlights or league sunday?

howiya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803212#Comment_119803212

I agree that it won't be the be all and end all financially just pointing out that the middleman serves a purpose.

Guaranteed income up front, production costs by that party versus waiting to see how many people hit the subscribe button

dohboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802642#Comment_119802642

Well this is it. The Sky deal was all about the optics really, and how bad they appeared to some folk."'A foreign broadcaster! British (hack, spit) even! Taking our games!" Persumably those people will be happier now, probably paying more, for a poorer service, in the short to medium term anyway.

Brendan Bendar

In my opinion, forget about ‘lags’ and all that.

The most important thing in the mix is the quality of the product.

People are used to HD and it’s variants and won’t pay money generally speaking for second rate product.

GAA would be very un savvy if they didn’t see this, and they are a savvy bunch by and large.

lertsnim

Do they even have an app for televisions?

munchkin_utd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119804493#Comment_119804493

no, just for the roku box in the US

As it is now you need to cast to a chromecast or apple tv, which is fine in principle but towards the end of last season that wouldnt work for me with live streams. I think stuff from the archive did work.

Anyhow, an app would be the business all right and save all that messing. Surely its not that difficult. The only logic in there is basically a login and then a link to the live or archive stream. The website is not much more than one page/ screen, and the app would be the same.

Man Vs ManUre

What’s this bleedin muppet Kilkenny doing speaking in irish on the all stars.

Brian017

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805838#Comment_119805838

Yes, how dare someone speak in their native language. Off to the gallows with him!

roadmaster

Ger Gilroy put the boot in to RTE & The Sunday Game on the Hard Shoulder this evening. According to Him sky was far better as was BBC compare to rte

castletownman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806049#Comment_119806049

Yet fellas from counties with actual Gaeltacht regions didn't indulge in such showmanship.

theoneeyedman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806111#Comment_119806111

Well, he's certainly an impartial commentator 😒

He might be right, but then again he has skin in the game.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805838#Comment_119805838

That must have been awful for you, thoughts and prayers etc.

Billy Ocean

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806216#Comment_119806216

I do think that a monopoly isn't healthy and RTE essentially have 1 now and RTE's sports coverage not just GAA has regressed in the last decade, seems to me its happened since Ryle Nugent left and Declan McBennett took over.