Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414179#Comment_119414179

LOL that is going to drive the local cranks nuts.

trellheim

I can't see easy diversions around this either to the east or to the west . For the Malahide road inbound perhaps Griffith Avenue and Swords road but both those are busy out anyway . East Wall will just terminate near the permanent mess that is the Beckett Bridge/Sheriff St junctions anyway

AngryLips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414104#Comment_119414104

If you look at the second picture of the leaflet (screenshots posted above), you'll see that section 5 highlighted in purple includes a link along the north bank of Tolka through Fairview all the way to Alfie Byrne Road.

brianc89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415439#Comment_119415439

Okay great thanks. It will be great when that's all done. Including the Greenway that Dublin Port are building around the port and including East Wall road

El Tarangu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414179#Comment_119414179

Was intrigued by this - I googled and came upon this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIW_k-4nTWw&ab_channel=DublinCityCouncil

I thought that it looked the business, and the project must have momentum if they were commissioning videos of it - and then I saw the 2017 uploading date...

magicbastarder

work started on design in the last few weeks.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/work-to-begin-on-new-6km-greenway-linking-santry-with-bull-island-41815477.html

Thelonious Monk

I think the rage this road closure will cause on Dublin Live and Facebook etc should be investigated as an energy source that could be harnessed

Citizen Six

The people of Ballybough are going to go mental too. They have to deal with all the extra traffic but none of the work is going to benefit them. No new trees, parklets or cycle lane for those guys.

cgcsb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119419461#Comment_119419461

That's the most hyper parochial view I've ever heard of, ballybough and the North strand are parallel to eachother and only about 250m apart. They're within eyeshot of eachother at most points. How could any investment happen on one and not benefit the other. It'll give people there easy cycling walking and bus access to the entire Dublin coast and docklands area

Citizen Six

I think it's just people who want stuff for Ballybough itself, on the main roadway. They don't think it's fair that they aren't getting any of the planting mainly, but will have to take all the extra traffic. I think at the time, one person pointed out how few trees they actually have. And to be fair, it's an even worse kip than North Strand Road already.

AngryLips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119421531#Comment_119421531

Is this just speculation or what?

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119421649#Comment_119421649

No, there was a woman who's part of a local residents initiative that wasn't happy at all. Lots of complaining took place on a local facebook group when the works began earlier this year.

magicbastarder

there's always complaining on facebook, to be fair...

Pawwed Rig

On the jeweller guy. I passed by yesterday and none of the parking on that side of the road has been removed. All of the work is on the park side which never had parking anyway.

How was his business impacted exactly?

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119423283#Comment_119423283

It wasn't! He announced the closure before a traffic cone had even been put on the ground (leading me to think that the shop was always going to close for whatever reason (presumably poor sales irrespective of anything transport related)).

magicbastarder

giving he was selling the premises, it was an odd thing to go public.

'this cycle utopia is going to destroy my business because of where it is located. here, does someone want to buy the retail unit i've been using?'

bk

It would be gas if someone opened a bike shop there! 🤣

BTW I'm aware there is a nice little bike shop just down the road from there, at the corner of Marino, in case anyone is looking for one in the area.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422528#Comment_119422528

I think it's the main reason for facebook groups to be honest. 

😂

I can understand people wanting better things for their area. But I can't understand complaining when another close by area gets something, as is the case with the C2CC route.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119423283#Comment_119423283

There is four spots on the park side of the road, close to his shop, which will be removed after the works are complete. He said this was too many spaces removed, people needed those four spots across the road to park in, or they couldn't attend his shop apparently.

In reality, he was probably barely keeping his head above water. Covid probably had a big impact on business. And he just decided to cut his losses, and just go work for someone else. Which was probably a good decision for him. But rather than admit why his business was failing, he just decided to blame cyclists.

There's an insurance broker up at Annelsey Bridge doing the same thing, blaming cyclists. No complaints though about the two large apartment complexes being built right on his doorstep for some reason.

downtheroad

Private cars to be banned inbound from Dublin’s North Strand from Monday

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dublin/2022/08/03/private-cars-to-be-banned-inbound-from-dublins-north-strand-from-monday/

Citizen Six

Paywalled for me. But I'd love to see the comments.

Pro troll Ray Shah already complaining on facebook too.

Sir Galahad

Interesting thread. I'm a bicycle owner and user. But I don't own or wear Lycra while using the bike. I've often wondered where the angry and rule breaking cylists go when they lock up their bikes. It looks like I found the place . . . . . . This thread. I've only ever seen rudeness and entitlement (exhibited in this thread) in school playgrounds.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424303#Comment_119424303

Looking at the IT article, the sub heading and the first paragraph refer to the project as constructing a "cyclepath"...

Buses, taxis and cyclists permitted to continue using route during Clontarf cyclepath construction

One of the busiest traffic arteries into Dublin city from the northside is to be closed to private cars for at least one year from Monday to facilitate the construction of the Clontarf to city centre cyclepath.

It is only if one could be bothered reading until the very end that they elaborate (slightly) on what is being done...

The cycle route, first proposed a decade ago, is part of a €62 million project that also involves watermains rehabilitation and new bus lanes.

Citizen Six

If you don't wear lycra then you aren't welcome here mate.

And if you want entitled, then start with the jeweller in Fairview that didn't want extra trees, didn't want benches for older people, didn't want safer pedestrian crossings, didn't want improved water main and sewage pipes. All because of his failing business that he was closing down anyway.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119410913#Comment_119410913

Came in the door this afternoon.

Citizen Six

Nothing here, and it's 250m away from me.

cgcsb

Violence has erupted on social media

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119425071#Comment_119425071

...with pretty much all of it based on completely mis-informed nonsense.

Citizen Six

The post about it on the Raheny facebook page, from Ray Shah seems to have disappeared.

Marty Whelan left interpretation of his views open, so hard to know how he actually feels.

cgcsb

The Karens are now calling for a violent uprising of hard pressed motorists, the toppling of the current anti car regime and possibly a public execution of Eamon Ryan. The struggle is real and these people seem to be using their real names and social media profiles

I for one can only dream that the construction of bus connects corridors will be a fraction of this level of entertainment. And Fairview isn't even that entitled wait till they get to Rathfornom or Donnybroke. If Sorcha can't wedge the Rover over the bollords onto the footpoth there'll be mayhem.