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Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Looking at the IT article, the sub heading and the first paragraph refer to the project as constructing a "cyclepath"...

    Buses, taxis and cyclists permitted to continue using route during Clontarf cyclepath construction

    One of the busiest traffic arteries into Dublin city from the northside is to be closed to private cars for at least one year from Monday to facilitate the construction of the Clontarf to city centre cyclepath.

    It is only if one could be bothered reading until the very end that they elaborate (slightly) on what is being done...

    The cycle route, first proposed a decade ago, is part of a €62 million project that also involves watermains rehabilitation and new bus lanes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    If you don't wear lycra then you aren't welcome here mate.

    And if you want entitled, then start with the jeweller in Fairview that didn't want extra trees, didn't want benches for older people, didn't want safer pedestrian crossings, didn't want improved water main and sewage pipes. All because of his failing business that he was closing down anyway.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,371 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Nothing here, and it's 250m away from me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Violence has erupted on social media



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ...with pretty much all of it based on completely mis-informed nonsense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    The post about it on the Raheny facebook page, from Ray Shah seems to have disappeared.

    Marty Whelan left interpretation of his views open, so hard to know how he actually feels.




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    The Karens are now calling for a violent uprising of hard pressed motorists, the toppling of the current anti car regime and possibly a public execution of Eamon Ryan. The struggle is real and these people seem to be using their real names and social media profiles

    I for one can only dream that the construction of bus connects corridors will be a fraction of this level of entertainment. And Fairview isn't even that entitled wait till they get to Rathfornom or Donnybroke. If Sorcha can't wedge the Rover over the bollords onto the footpoth there'll be mayhem.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,993 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    To be fair, the Cycling Forum is right up there.

    I guarantee there'll be private cars back on this route by the end of the month, certainly before the schools return in earnest. What Ray Shah correctly refers to the sh1t show will be completely intolerable and unmanageable.

    It could well be that some motorists just keep driving the route anyway, and once a few do it, everyone will.

    I mean, intending to bring all in-bound private traffic back down Portland Row to the Five Lamps, while intending to give enough priority to the Strand to keep the buses moving on time. **** off and pull the other one.

    It'll be back to the drawing board, again, for the keystone cops of project management, Dublin City Council.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,414 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    certainly not due to marty whelan's tweet, the reaction to that is about as violent as woodstock (the original one!)



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,993 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    You never get tired of disappointment, clearly.

    I think the Germans might have a word for that....



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,993 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I've just now read, that any RESIDENTS and businesses who live in any of the many side roads and cul-de-sacs between Fairview and the Five Lamps (27 in all!!) and who wish to drive southbound, towards the City, will be forced to drive northbound and use one of only four or five cross streets, to rejoin the new chaos through Ballybough! And half of those cross streets look like this anyway!

    This whole insanity is going to create so much chaos, danger and economic damage its inconceivable.

    Can't wait till the first episode of Liveline after this shyt lands. Holy War won't even cut it, not least because its Fateen Duffy's own route to work in Raidió Éireann 😂

    I daresay Paschal Donohue will have DCC straightened out within the day!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Why would Joe Duffy drive that route to work, you aren't making any sense?

    The dangers so far have been caused by impatient drivers, speeding, breaking lights and using the bus lanes. Zero regard for other road users, and other drivers just trying to get to and from work while obeying the rules.

    And why would the minister for finance be the one to straighten out DCC?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    All those roads are within a couple of km of the city centre and will have a plethora of buses passing by their front door on a dedicated bus lane not being hindered by car traffic. They'll be OK.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,993 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    This is just the kind of obtuse response that turns people against these projects.

    'Be grand sure' is not a policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,993 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Because he lives in Clontarf and works in Donnybrook ffs.

    Donohoe will act on it, because he's a senior cabinet Minister and a TD for the area. And he will do so, because if he doesn't, he'll be blamed for the consequences and have to find himself a new job after the 2025 election. And Paschal is on a decent trajectory to be Taoiseach, so if he has to slap the City Council around a bit to stay on track, he'll do it without hesitation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Good grief there's some hysterical posts about a local traffic diversion. As if that's not been a regular feature of city life the world over for 100 years.

    Post edited by cgcsb on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    I'll take a guess that you are a south sider, with a poor grasp of how to get around Dublin, if you think Joe Duffy gets to RTE via the Five Lamps. Do you know where the Five lamps is?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Qrt


    Are you implying Clontarf to Donnybrook via North Strand Road is some off-the-beaten-track way of going? The only other way I can think of is the EastLink, which is what I assume you’re thinking of too. Some people hate tolls!



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,961 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    You can go Alfie Byrne road and take the Tom Clarke bridge to avoid the tolls.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    I'm implying that someone who lives in Clontarf, and makes almost half a million euro profit a year, doesn't care about paying a toll, and won't be taking a longer route to work by driving through Ballybough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,961 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Duffy works two hours a day and will be travelling off peak both directions in his old school jag. He'll be grand.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Unenforceable just like the current "Bus" lane along Fairview park 🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Yeah, it’ll surely be abused if current driving is anything to go by.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    From the article: There will be community plazas along the route and additional trees in purpose built tree pits, as well as the greenway along the Tolka river, and a really, really high quality, high class cycle route, so in the long run that will we are doing will benefit locals.

    Would you prefer that Dublin has no new infrastructure built? People complain all the time about Irish water and the wastage in the system because of the old network. This project is improving the water infrastructure in this area. It is also improving the bus lane infrastructure. Its not just a cycle lane. What is your alternate proposal?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Look at this clown



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  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    Obviously there was no notice whatsoever for this. Someone came up with the plans last week and starting work on it next week, thus taking EVERYONE by surprise (if only things WERE that efficient)

    And now you have the scaremongering catastrophising karens out in force. They are of course traffic management experts, covid experts & economic experts. Their "expertise" tells you that EVERY person living in the houses on these small streets has a car and EVERY ONE of them will be leaving their house at 8am each morning and ALL will want to go into Dublin city.


    Karens and their male counterparts are best ignored because it is very very rare for anything that a karen catastrophises ever actually happens



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