Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480543#Comment_119480543

Embrace being a second class citizen in your own country they mean.

and taxes that WILL go through the roof… feck all attainable healthcare, already… ohh yeah, embrace it…

SEPT 23 1989

Was I hearing things this morning when they said 200 Ukrainian doctors had arrived here

no need for doctors in a warzone obviously

maninasia

The student accommodation problem is not new.

But it has never been this bad or as widespread as it is now . Don't downplay how serious this is.

This is a really big problem all across the country.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480810#Comment_119480810

The student accommodation problem is not new

No it isn't, but you championing the cause certainly is, isn't it?

Why is that I wonder?

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480774#Comment_119480774

I will let people in on a little secret. English is the language of Europe. Don't share a language English is the go to. Jobs seem to be the big red herring. If this is a temporary solution they will not have time to find work apart from part time as they will be preparing to return home. I know exactly why France is not a destination outside my theory. The SW is Terrible. Number of countries in the EU tend to pay you what you earned for x amount of time not a flat rate like we get here. So $200 dollars a month vs what you get here weekly. If users are promoting Russia report them. Myself I am very supportive on Ukraine in the war thread. Dealing with Refugees is a different issue for Ireland.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480981#Comment_119480981

I will let people in on a little secret. English is the language of Europe

Of course yeah, all the students who traditionally flock to France for the summer to learn English. 😕

Myself I am very supportive on Ukraine in the war thread

Oh yes, there is a few of them, openly war mongering in one thread and demonising refugees in the other.

It really is bizarre.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481100#Comment_119481100

There is more than one reason the Spanish come here to learn English. Interesting choice of words "war mongering" Are you suggesting the Ukrainians lay down their arms ? Supporting them in an existential threat is not War mongering. War mongering sounds like Russian appeasement. 🤔

fly_agaric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480981#Comment_119480981

That was kind of my point about English...some countries govt./state apparatus (as well as the general public) will be more open to operating in it if need be. This problem does not exist when coming to Ireland because we speak the world's lingua franca anyway. This makes things easier for all immigrants.

It would have been better if you had first posted these ideas on poorer welfare, rather than a conspiracy theory that France got a secret political deal where they can just ignore the EU directive effectively.

I wouldn't really agree about the "jobs" thing - this war has already been going on for a few months (half a year now) and most people do want to work if they can get a job in my experience.

On the pro Russia stuff, the account is already banned off that Russia thead, that is only reason I know + brought it up (since one cannot search the posts, and I can't recall exactly why they were banned). edit: That history makes me doubt the motives when the same accounts start up posting about problems due to Ukrainian refugees + blaming govt./EU policy.

Ireland has really done little to help Ukraine that stands out vs any other EU member. Some have done alot more that is for sure. Probably the number of Ukrainians that have chosen to come here is only element of our support that actually has cost us a bit more over and above some others in the EU, given the existing govt. created housing/accomodation crisis here, but of course the Ukrainians did not initiate that problem anyway.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481143#Comment_119481143

There is more than one reason the Spanish come here to learn English

Yes but they don't go to France to learn English, do they?

War mongering sounds like Russian appeasement.

lol.

War mongering is encouraging more war, a bi product of war is refugees.

You can't have one with out the other. You want the war but not the refugees.

That's the bizarre conundrum, wouldn't you agree?

Furze99

Meanwhile, elsewhere on boards.ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058259032/house-for-rent-out-for-family-from-ukraine#latest

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481184#Comment_119481184

Where Did I say I want a war ? Give us a link to that. Or are we trying to put words in Peoples mouths. If I had my way at the start of Russian massing on the border would to have bombed them to the stone age. Stopping any need for the Ukrainians to defend themselves and their loved ones lives. If you think anyone wanted The Russians to rape and pillage torture, "commit war crimes" it's way across parts of Ukraine well I don't think you will find those people outside of Russia or their supporters.

So please retract I want a war.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481237#Comment_119481237

Never said you did, I said.

War mongering is encouraging more war

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, It's exactly my position on it. Russia and Ukraine are at war, although there is some on here would have you believe there is no war and Ukraine isn't even in Europe.

Now the result of that is refugees, you can't have one with out the other. Something you seem to be unable to grasp.

Oh and there is and has been a few nutters on here who are in complete support of the Russians. Some more subtle than others.

TaurenDruid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480775#Comment_119480775

Taxes will go through the roof? Really?! What's that based on? The exchequer surplus we have this year, the cancelled bond sales cos we didn't need the money, or the budget kite-flying around a 30% tax rate to give more money back to medium and high-earners?

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480789#Comment_119480789

At the rate the RuSSians are shelling hospitals and medical centres I certainly won't be judging them.

Internet heroes on the other hand. 🙄

TaurenDruid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481215#Comment_119481215

Typical - that poster complains here about "economic migrants" and having to pay for people's accommodation in hotels, and when someone tries to rent privately at no expense to the state, they complains about that. It's almost as if the problem isn't economic, it's more about foreigners...

Potatoeman

Have any of you in favour of this opened your own home (primary residence) to refugees? Why is that I wonder? In fact all the posters that want no cap and full welfare payments seem to either not live in Ireland, retired but still not willing to take them in or the classic “wouldn’t subject them to that, they’ve been through enough”. Shouldn’t you be leading by example?

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481456#Comment_119481456

Jaysus, you were berating people for doing just that this morning, now you are berating them for not doing it? Pick a lane.

Anyway by the same token you'll be opening up your home for students this year given your new found concern for them, I assume?

TaurenDruid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481456#Comment_119481456

"Have any of you in favour of this"

Means what, exactly?

Opened your own home (primary residence) to refugees?

Yes. Currently awaiting vetting clearance.

Why is that I wonder?

Because I saw what was happening in Ukraine - civilian buildings, including hospitals attacked; civilians raped and murdered; children taken from parents and forcibly "relocated", etc. So I discussed it with my family and we all agreed the decent, human thing to do would be to offer our spare room. In past generations, it would have been called the "Christian" thing to do, but we're not Christians.

In fact all the posters that want no cap and full welfare payments seem to either not live in Ireland, retired but still not willing to take them in or the classic “wouldn’t subject them to that, they’ve been through enough”.

Nah, that's just in your head, I'm afraid.

Shouldn’t you be leading by example?

Well, in the past, I've taken part in anti-war protests, anti-homelessness protests, and the like. Does that count?

What have you been involved in, as a matter of interest?

Potatoeman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481636#Comment_119481636

Fair play, at least your consistent in your belief in the cause. Too many are doing nothing themselves while claiming they care about this as a cause.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481456#Comment_119481456

Why is that I wonder?

What’s to wonder about, people aren’t doing the things you think they should be doing?

Nothing unusual about that. I’m assuming you’re out every day 24/7 doing border patrol and telling Government and the EU how they’re all doing it wrong and should be doing things by your example, which, let’s be honest - appears to amount to doing absolutely nothing.

CeCe12

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119479798#Comment_119479798

Oh but they did protest. See link

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40704692.html

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481791#Comment_119481791

6 people and 2 replies to the tweet they sent out about the protest.

Hardly the mass protest people are advocating for on here. Is it?

CeCe12

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481854#Comment_119481854

They were out in front of the Dail. Hopefully there getting their ducks in a row as we speak. Something tells me the crowd will be much larger this time 🤔

The Witches Cat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118890756#Comment_118890756

How many Ukrainians are you putting up Mick????

maninasia

Place is a shambles yet they are busy grandstanding and throwing billions away.

900,000 currently on hospital waiting lists.

CeCe12

Any of you want to help this girl out? You know so she can live somewhere near where she wants to go to college?

road_high

Can see why the “host families” now want rid. Only so much of this rubbish anyone can take really

CeCe12

Germany becoming overwhelmed.

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/germany-struggling-to-accommodate-ukrainian-refugees/

CeCe12

They have managed to put freezes on Ukrainian refugees in some areas due to no accommodation.

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481974#Comment_119481974

That’s good. We might see an end to this nonsense. Only way it will hqpien is through europe as we don’t have a government in any real sense here anymore. Just a pack of NGO arse lickers