Moyross Train Station

Tiernster7

Does anybody know if a passing loop would be possible at Moyross?

It would seem very important for this line that something would be added. Aware this is impossible as you get closer to the city (particularly near parkway)

Poxyshamrock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120630816#Comment_120630816

It depends what stretch within the 2km study area they choose to locate the station as some parts are wider/less constrained than others.

I imagine the two frontrunners would be the field just south of the factory buildings due to its proximity to housing/shops but it seems to be a bit marshy or further west along the line beyond the football pitches which is the furthest from existng housing but closer to greenfield sites, which would open up this land for development. Creating transport oriented development was one of the reasons this station was announced under the Pathfinder programme.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631553#Comment_120631553

I would imagine the best spot is just after the Moyross soccer pitches as there is plenty of greenfield and it puts it on the Caherdavin border so it brings the 302 (LSMATS 2) bus into play for TUS

Poxyshamrock

Spotted some people in hi-vis and hard hats (possibly surveying) this morning in the triangular field between Watchhouse Cross and the factory units so I suspect this could be where the station is going.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121192093#Comment_121192093

It is. Someone posted a map on another thread.

Still think it would have been better round the back of Moyross community centre. Especially now that a new back entrance to TUS is being planned from that point.

Cookiemunster

I don't think so. A temporary road is going in to access the factories from the Kileely Rd while the Ballynanty rail bridge is being demolished and replaced. It's more likely to be something to do with this.

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121192167#Comment_121192167

Given that the Council want to open up a direct road between College avenue and Woodview. I think that near the Community centre would be the ideal spot for the station. It leave TUS and Thomond Park easily walkable from the station. Which won't be the case for Long Pavement or the Meelick side.

Poxyshamrock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121192244#Comment_121192244

Possibly. I have seen plans for that road. That road is going north of the railway line though, whereas the crew today were in the field south of the railway line so who knows.

Cookiemunster

The field is also the most likely place for a compound to be placed for the demo and replacement of the rail bridge.

Paddico

Will be handy getting to Thomond Park as well coming from Ennis

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121193388#Comment_121193388

Cuts a fair bit of time by not having to do that big loop around the Parkway.

seekers

Is there any word on the station yet? I thought it was to be decided on by the first half of this year.

Poxyshamrock

I've heard nothing initial story broke back in October 2022. Opening date of 2025 seems very ambitious now considering Woodbrook DART station has an opening date of 2025 with planning secured and sod turned!

Cookiemunster

We're likely to have a different government by this time next year that doesn't include the Greens. I'd wouldn't be surprised at all if this never saw the light of day.

IMO the Coonagh to Knockalisheen road and the BusConnects plan with buses every 15 mins will provide a much better service for the people of Moyross than 9 trains a day meandering off into the country side.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121491332#Comment_121491332

Single track and not working around catenary will make this an easier build. Maybe not that much easier

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121491493#Comment_121491493

The train isn't for the people of Moyross except maybe the very odd few who work in Ennis and I don't think anyone believes it will be the commuter choice from Moyross to town.

Tbh outside of some Ennis and Sixmilebridge based TUS students I'm not sure who it is for.

There is a chance it won't even technically be in Moyross. Moyross is now just a trendy term for anything built around there. Same as it used to be the term for any crime committed on the poor half of the Northside.

waterwelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121491633#Comment_121491633

I'm not sure where else it can be other than Moyross unless they reroute the line, technically it might be outside Moyross but the next populated area would be Meelick.

They have spent more than a decade knocking housing and depopulating the area, now they want to build a public transport mode that thrives on high density population.

Outside Moyross is the old dump which I assume can never be built on.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121515647#Comment_121515647

Close to the dump was one of the likely rumoured sites.

Again the density of Moyross doesn't matter because it will only go to the city which is better served by bus or Ennis which is not an area many Limerick people work.

It will be for getting people in to not out of Moyross for work.

seekers

The new report on the news doesn't make any reference to the new station in Moyross. only ballysimon

Poxyshamrock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121657723#Comment_121657723

That's because AtkinsRéalis have (apparently) been working on a study related to the Moyross Station and double tracking of Limerick-Limerick Junction since 2022/2023.

Hibernicis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121658377#Comment_121658377

That piece of work was announced in November 2022 and “will be completed in the first half of 2023, allowing both projects to progress.” The announcement is here

https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/news/moyross-and-limerick-junction-double-track-project

The wording of the new announcement regarding the Ballysimon station and the Ennis line capacity review is strangely similar to the above announcement regarding the Moyross station and Limerick-Limerick Junction capacity review, and involves the exact same cast of characters. So presumably it will also vanish into thin air. Long live Limerick Fantasy Commuter Rail.

Poxyshamrock

https://www.live95fm.ie/news/live95-news/next-step-welcomed-in-delivering-moyross-train-station/

Public consultation from 20th May to 14th June.

seekers

I see that the public consultation is due to start on 20th May. There doesn't seem to be any undication where exactly the station will be situated. Why the secrecy?

https://www.live95fm.ie/news/live95-news/next-step-welcomed-in-delivering-moyross-train-station/

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122143912#Comment_122143912

No secrecy, they release the information when the consultation is launched.

Poxyshamrock

Anyone have a link to the documents/consultation?

According to Live95, the preferred location is to the rear of Corpus Christi school.

Cookiemunster

Details are here.

https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/about-us/iarnrod-eireann-projects-and-investments/new-stations/moyross

It's a single platform. No double tracking.

I'm actually laughing at this 'benefit'

By 2043 almost 7000 people will live within a 15 min walk of the proposed new Moyross Station

A station for a population, in 20 years time, of 7000 people, who'll be less that 15 mins from a bus stop that will get them into the city center faster and more frequently than the train. There is no way this project passed any CBA. It's purely a political venture.

Tiernster7

In fairness this is there

"Designed with flexibility to accommodate the potential future double-tracking of the line and addition of a second platform on the northern side of the track at the station"

If this is to keep costs to a minimum and create the station quickly I support that.

About 1km from the north of Thomond park by foot is good. Use for Gaelic Grounds will be limited unless Clare & Galway are playing there.

Timeline is more likely to be 2027 then 2026 I would guess. Lets see

Cookiemunster

Well unless you're coming from Clare or Galway it's pretty much useless for Thomond Park too. There are no intermediary stops between here and Colbert.

Tiernster7

I'm guessing trains will be scheduled from Galway to Cork in time (changing at Ballysimon) and potentially this could be useful in that instance.

I know LSMATS had park way as a possible station. If all trains from south and east didnt have to go Colbert to change that would be a big help but I'd expect someone coming from Castleconnell would be inclined to switch train rather then walk for a bus (303, 5,6) provided the timings are correct.

No double platform does mean frequency for these kind of connections is extremely limited though. I'd hope Sixmilebridge passing loop will be announced soon as that is the only foil possible.

The 3rd level institutes connection will be good too.

If the footprint is low I think this can be a good thing for everyone.

Cookiemunster

The Ennis line doesn't go anywhere near Ballysimon. It joins the main Dublin line just over 1km from Colbert. The most likely spot for a Ballysimon station is where it crosses the N24. That is roughly 5km from Colbert. There can't be an interchange there between these lines.

The only possible location for a station at Parkway is over 2km from where the Ennis line and the mainline merge. Again there won't be an interchange here.

All trains will continue to go to Colbert as that's where the majority of the people using the services want to go.

Also many people going to a Munster match want to go into the city first. It's a short 15-20 minute walk from there after people have had food and a few beers.