So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990213#Comment_119990213

He really is "Streisanding" the hell out of this.

Mind bogglingly thin-skinned.

pixelburp

When life imitates 30 year old episodes of the Simpsons, it's time for someone to tell Musk just to child the fúck out; go do normal Billionaire stuff for a few months. Throw a party just you and 40 supermodels; hunt the Most Dangerous Game at your private reserve; or just go masturbate in the corner to a copy of Ayn Rand - something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kpb8eu1pEY

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119989338#Comment_119989338

SF is basically Musks home/playground. It is also the centre of technology for the world with every major tech company having their HQ there. If you are calling it a basket case, you are effectively calling Musk a basket case. Won't disagree with you there.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990295#Comment_119990295

That's just it.

He has the ultimate amount of "f*ck you" money - What people say about him or think about him shouldn't effect him one iota , but he seems so desperate for adulation and respect that he responds to every single slight with stupid memes and generally infantile tweets.

I mean, most people think that Jeff Bezos is very very far from a nice person and are happy to say it in lots of places , but you don't see him reacting to them all with memes and other nonsense.

He just sits in one of his many palatial homes or on his mega yacht and ignores them whilst earning millions of dollars every hour of every day.

Musk needs to do a bit more of that.

His inability to behave like an adult is going to cost him everything if he doesn't cop on.

conorhal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119984732#Comment_119984732

What the chuds don't understand is that grindr changes from a gay hook-up app to a gay networking safe space for minors, despite no change in it's functionality or purpose ... by magic!

Minors have no place on such an app and anybody deranged enough to think so needs their hard drive checked by feds. Your TDS really does make you defend some very strange position that you would hope basic common sense or thinking about it for one second would show them to be untenable.

The problem isn't that people are pissed at such a suggestion, the problem is that the kind of person in charge of 'trust and safety' at a major social media organization would express such a view. The only mask slipping here is his.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990196#Comment_119990196

I think inciting a mob to a riot which results in the death of people is probably the soundest case for a social media ban...

...ever ever there was one.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990502#Comment_119990502

but if there is no specific rule against inciting a mob and you ban him anyway you end with dullards proclaiming that he wasn't banned for breaking the rules.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990502#Comment_119990502

Exactly. Bari Weiss & Musk are trying to show that there were no violations on the day Trump was banned, while completely neglecting the fact that Trump (as POTUS) was not subject to the usual T&Cs anyway, and that the decision to ban him was based on the culmination of his actions & tweets over the preceeding months (and particularly following Jan 6th), where enough of the decision makers at Twitter decided to make a judgement call and that the public outcry against Twitter for not banning him was becoming too much, so they banned him. Also worth remembering Facebook at this stage already banned Trump the day before for the exact same reasons, and so it'd likely look bad on Twitter if they didn't do the same thing.

This was not a few lefties in Twitter demanding Trump be banned, because let's face it, there had been calls for Trump to be banned or actioned long before that anyway, particularly with his tweets about North Korea, and then Covid misinformation causing Twitter to implement a whole new feature to say that what Trump was saying is disputed etc specifically to get around having to action him. Jan 6th was the last straw and Trump was only going to be POTUS for a few more weeks, so they made the call to ban him regardless of not having one tweet to point to and say "This violates rule No.29".

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119989773#Comment_119989773

It's pretty hilarious to watch all this unfold because Musk is (or has to be) pro-science and pro-environment, when most of these people are anything but.

It's like they'll let any number of contradictions slide just to get behind any narcissist billionaire who they perceive as "sticking it to the libs".

.Donegal.

This isn’t a rhetorical question. Is the white rabbit a symbol for Qanon?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1602490533586378755

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990364#Comment_119990364

Indeed; Bezos sounds like he's a colossal díck himself, but does seem to have the self-awareness to just sit back and live his life of unimaginable wealth in exactly the manner you'd expect someone in his wealth status might do. At worst of late, he got some bad press for his giant super-yacht being incapable of leaving Rotterdam - not without dismantling its historic bridges - but that all reads so pedestrian, such "normal" billionaire behaviour compared with whatever the F is going on with Musk's brain right now.

Obviously the whole dystopian nightmare that is the Amazon workplace is another matter, but again, kinda straight-line issues you can put at the feet of Bezos; as opposed to the untangling ideological nonsense some would have us believe is Supreme Alpha Male behaviour. Honestly, I couldn't tell you a single thing about Bezos' politics, and in many ways that's kind of the point.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990738#Comment_119990738

He was not subject to the T&Cs but he had "strikes" against him so under what T&Cs were those strikes?

As Wiess pointed outm, What is very clear is that Trump was subject to a completely different and arbitary set of rules to every other world leader just because the staff at Twitter wanted him gone

Dohnjoe

It's the equivalent of a fringe but very prolific poster on Boards.ie buying the site as a "business decision" but it being obvious to everyone else they want to turn it into their own play-thing to echo their personal views. Exacting their petty revenge on all the admins they'd ever had an issue with. Sacking half the mods. All under the veneer of "free speech" absolutism.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991394#Comment_119991394

Before "Twitter files": Twitter banned POTUS because of violations of T&C

After "Twitter files": Twitter banned POTUS, but not because of violations of T&C, it was simply an arbitrary decision because orange man bad.

But yes, nothingburger.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991394#Comment_119991394

Equally he was given a degree of latitude not afforded to anyone else for years by Twitter.

If "they" wanted him gone he had given them an almost endless number of opportunities before they actually decided to kick him.

There were literally dozens and dozens of tweets posted by Trump over the years that if you or I (or any "regular" person) posted we'd have been insta-banned without a moments notice.

Quin_Dub

An error that I've never seen before on Twitter.

"Twitter over capacity. Please wait a few moments and try again."

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991451#Comment_119991451

No he was not. Read the Bari Weiss thread on twitter before jumping in, good chap.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991394#Comment_119991394

He may have had strikes against his account based on the general T&Cs, but actions which would have been taken against a normal account for the same things weren't taken against Trump because he was POTUS. Twitter explained long before Jan 6th 2021 that accounts by public leaders weren't completely above Twitter's policies, but did acknowledge they'd be given more leeway, different actions taken etc.

I don't disagree about other world leaders, particularly those from countries who call for violence etc. Appropriate action should be taken against them. But Twitter didn't take the decision to ban Trump based on a few members of staff complaining about him. There were plenty of other times there were a lot of calls for Trump to be banned and Twitter decided not to, and instead gave him leeway (again, they implemented a new feature to combat Trump's covid misinformation in order to avoid taking action against him). There was ample reason to make a judgement call to ban him following Jan 6th, and like I said it was a decision that Facebook had already made a day earlier, even though Twitter was Trump's favoured platform.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991475#Comment_119991475

So, all the times Twitter publicly said that they didn't sanction him or delete his tweets "because he was President" have just been memory holed now have they?

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991475#Comment_119991475

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2019/publicinterest

Our highest priority is to protect the health of the public conversation on Twitter, and an important part of that is ensuring our rules and how we enforce them are easy to understand. In the past, we’ve allowed certain Tweets that violated our rules to remain on Twitter because they were in the public’s interest, but it wasn’t clear when and how we made those determinations. To fix that, we’re introducing a new notice that will provide additional clarity in these situations, and sharing more on when and why we’ll use it.

Serving the public conversation includes providing the ability for anyone to talk about what matters to them; this can be especially important when engaging with government officials and political figures. By nature of their positions these leaders have outsized influence and sometimes say things that could be considered controversial or invite debate and discussion. A critical function of our service is providing a place where people can openly and publicly respond to their leaders and hold them accountable.

With this in mind, there are certain cases where it may be in the public’s interest to have access to certain Tweets, even if they would otherwise be in violation of our rules. On the rare occasions when this happens, we'll place a notice – a screen you have to click or tap through before you see the Tweet – to provide additional context and clarity. We’ll also take steps to make sure the Tweet is not algorithmically elevated on our service, to strike the right balance between enabling free expression, fostering accountability, and reducing the potential harm caused by these Tweets. 

The above was introduced following repeated calls for Twitter to ban Trump due to some of his tweets.

Penn

Also, it should be pointed out that Bari Weiss didn't really reveal anything new. The ban was fully explained in a blog post on Twitter, including acknowledging that his tweets on Jan 8th may not prima facie violate rules but must be considered in the context of the previous few days.

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119990371#Comment_119990371

Do you have some difficulty understanding plain English? He didn't say anything about enabling or encouraging or supporting or facilitating minors to use Grindr. He did face up to the actual reality that some minors WILL use Grindr. And in the absence of any global age verification process, the best thing that service providers like Grindr can do is to recognise this reality and respond to it.

But congrats on your outrage, you've worked with Musk to round up terrorists and force a decent man to flee his home with yet another McCarthyite scare.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/12/tech/twitter-files-yoel-roth

You keep interesting company.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991394#Comment_119991394

Just in case you forgot, he was using Twitter to round up his armed supporters to overthrow the government, remember? The ones with the noose for Mike Pence, you remember them, right?

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991851#Comment_119991851

My god what a take? Link us to the tweet that rounded up armed supporters to overthrow the government please?

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991851#Comment_119991851

Now that his twitter account is restored you'll be able to link to those tweets, of course.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991894#Comment_119991894

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991886#Comment_119991886

Short memories lads?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attacks-pence-for-not-having-courage-to-overturn-election-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991924#Comment_119991924

Please provide us with a link, to the tweet (or tweets), that rounded up armed supporters to overthrow the government please?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991931#Comment_119991931

Try reading the article.

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991945#Comment_119991945

There is no link to the tweet(or tweets) where you just said, a former president tried to round up armed supporters to overthrow the Government.

I'll ask you for a 3rd time.

Can you please provide us with a link to those tweets?

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991851#Comment_119991851

This unreal scenario, which never happened, should be handled by law enforcement and not by a private social media corporation.