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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,307 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Meta does own Instagram (and WhatsApp), but they might have shot the arse off that too: Instagram now basically preferences "reels", ie short videos in an attempt to mimic TikTok. The algorithm now actively hides posts, even from those you directly follow, so many small to medium artists and creatives have found their presence diminish to the point of nonexistence. Christ even as I post this Instagram just threw a notification at me about "most watched reels in Ireland".

    Here's a photographer I follow lamenting the ludicrously disparity between Instagram and the same photo posted on Twitter, as it happens. This would be a business account too, so an important arm of this photographer's career. Much fewer followers but more engagement. I daresay if a better artists/creatives sharing app came about it might kill Instagram quick enough.

    My wife part times illustration work and while Instagram wasn't a focus or priority, she noticed her work plummeting from about 1000 likes per post, to about 100. I can't imagine how bad that'd affect someone actively monetising their account. You have this ludicrous scenario where artists make a video of their still image cos technically that's more important to the algorithm.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Thats a spin if there ever was one. Musk set out to buy twitter and was blocked at every avenue. So he withdrew his offer which made shareholders panic , thus a lawsuit was filed. He laid out his terms and got the deal done. He wanted twitter and in the end he got twitter. The only people embarrassed was Parag and whoever ese was escorted out of the building. And make no mistake about it , Parag and especially Vidday were vehemently against Musk owing twitter.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/business/musk-twitter-buyout-what-we-know.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,580 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    What the shite are you talking about? Some of Musks initial offers were rejected, until he made his final offer which was then accepted.

    After that Musk was the one trying to pull out of the deal by using excuses such as the number of bots on Twitter and accusing Twitter of not being truthful about their figures. Musk tried pulling out of the deal and then trying to renegotiate the price.

    This was literally going to court because Twitter's shareholders were trying to enforce the contract Musk agreed to and make him buy Twitter for the agreed price. The only reason the court case didn't go ahead is because, as almost all legal experts pointed out, Musk was sure to lose. So Musk proceeded with the purchase even though, again by all expect accounts, he's buying it at a ridiculous price.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It was only a pump and dump they said, Musk would never buy it they said.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    The original cost was 44B , he bought it for 44b. Only a fool would believe he was forced to pay 44B for something he doesn't want. He has the best lawyers available to mankind. If he wanted out he would have gotten out, simple as that. The man is/was obsessed about buying Twitter and he is clearly ecstatic now that he owns it. You believe what the liberal media tells you believe.

    You've been here since 2008. I bet you never made one negative post about Musk until he tried to buy Twitter. Prove me wrong.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Exactly and @Penn argued this theory ad nauseum which is why anything he says regarding Musk should be viewed as an ultra defensive coping mechanism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,580 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    His legal team sent Twitter a letter saying he was pulling out of the deal. Twitter sued him. A court case was scheduled.

    Why would Musk try to pull out of the deal (firstly by using the level of bots on the site as a reason, then trying to use revelations from a whistleblower), let the case get a week or two from trial, and then proceed with the deal for the same price anyway? And regardless of how much money he could throw at his lawyers, they were already losing motions and cases they had put forth to the judge pre-trial, and most legal experts agreed he was likely to lose.

    As for thinking it was just a pump and dump scheme, yeah, I did at the start when he had only bought a percentage of shares. I was wrong. Have I commented about Musk before the Twitter thing? I'm not sure. The Boards search function is sh*te so can't really search, but not sure what you think it does or doesn't prove. The most I ever really paid attention to him before is all the cameos in TV and films he does, and naming his child that stupid name.

    But as for your comment about "ultra defensive coping mechanism". I'm still on Twitter. I'll still keep using it as I always have, at least for the foreseeable.

    You're trying to portray me as something I'm not, and trying to spout bullsh*t about "Liberal media" and the like.

    So how about we leave the personal stuff aside, and break this down to it's simplest form; Was Twitter suing Musk to force him to complete the agreed contract and make sure he bought Twitter for the agreed price?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    As expected from Elon Musk's now completed purchase of Twitter, there have been a lot of layoffs so far.

    Apparently knowing that this was going to happen, two guys who live near the Twitter headquarters decided to go out walking around with boxes of props, baiting and trolling the surrounding journalists to ask them about their status.

    After saying that they were fired developers and holding up Michelle Obama's 2018 book Becoming for dramatic effect, the duo supplied their names as "Rahul Ligma" and "Daniel Johnson," which the media ran with.

    😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,939 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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    Twitter with musk will just end up being the worlds biggest and worst WhatsApp group that you have to stick on mute.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    hahaha Private company does what private company does. In other news water is wet. If it goes more of a centre rout I may use it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Deleted my account a couple months ago, signed up again just so I could scroll through tweets without getting a "please sign up" pop-up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,939 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Will be interesting to see how he plans to cover the debt repayments




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Now that is interesting. Could this all be some elaborate tax scam ?



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Already stories coming out about Apple's increasing fees for in app stuff and how Musk is going to end up in a collision course with them. 30% of revenue going to Apple is an awful lot.

    If his influence can somehow go against it successfully, like Epic tried to, that would be a good thing. Although I suspect a lot of people will start defending Apple's fees if Musk fights them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Running a giant social media giant and turning a buck on it is pretty far from the ambit of Musk's competencies.

    My suspicion is that he's let his ego get the better of him and will run the sh*tshow into the ground. Which would be a net good tbh, Twitter is a toxic platform that encourages political partisans and the barking mad to try to tear down all that is good in the world.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    oh I would love the internet to go back to MIRC days Twitter is corporate bull ****.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,307 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I recently installed a Chrome Extension that deleted that pop up. It's just some HTML and CSS that blocks further scrolling, easily removed by an extension. Don't have it in front of me though as I'm on mobile. Means I remain without an account.





  • Use of the n-word has increased 500% since the takeover.

    Wonderful to once again have a thriving marketplace of intellectual ideas being exchanged in the town square.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,307 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Jesus. Depressing but also unsurprising. Something something owning the libs?

    This is 18 years old now (oof) yet the web-comic Penny Arcade nailed a core tenet of social media behaviour before Social Media even existed.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,520 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,703 ✭✭✭✭briany


    To some people, 'freedom of speech' means the freedom to say 'nígger'. That's how base they are. If Musk wants his investment to pay off, he's going to need to have the platform making money, and that means having advertisers. And big advertisers are risk averse. If Twitter becomes free speech in the way 4Chan is free speech, then advertisers are going to walk. So, if Must wants the venture to pay, he's still going to need to have content guidelines in place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    But this is just the web3 protocol he has been working on for awhile?

    I don't see this resolving the issues people have with twitter. I don't think most care about web3 decentralisation.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,307 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That's the nub of it. The Muskoholics can cheer and whoop all they like but Musk has backed himself into a corner that means if he wants to make any money out of this, he has to play sweet with corporations and advertisers propping up the service. Free Speech has a dollar amount.

    And as much as some rail against their motives, corporations will eject the moment Twitter becomes too toxic to be of value. All the sneering about woke this or that, or an inexplicable fascination with hair colour, can't paper over the demands of the market. As you say, if Twitter devolves into 4chan then it's dead as a commercial entity.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭lmao10


    That's a pretty good definition of what these "free speech" and "anti hate speech laws" people want.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭lmao10


    I think the problem is that you can't reign in these people who want to create that kind of toxic atmosphere. They don't have the intellect to moderate what they are saying. How many of them have been banned from here - quite a few. Even on this forum, where they were given extreme latitude, they still got chucked because they didn't have the intellect to moderate themselves. So the advertisers, who want to make money by selling their products to a wide variety of consumers, are guaranteed to bail. Absolutely no doubt about that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Husband and Wife ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its a wind up.

    Two guys who live near the Twitter headquarters decided to go out walking around with boxes of props, baiting and trolling the surrounding journalists to ask them about their status.

    After saying that they were fired developers and holding up Michelle Obama's 2018 book Becoming for dramatic effect, the duo supplied their names as "Rahul Ligma" and "Daniel Johnson," which the media ran with.




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