So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

AndrewJRenko

Who’s going to tell him?

https://mastodon.social/@elonjet

McHardcore

Ah now. He banned our favourite Irish journalist Donnie O Sullivan 😭

WTF. All Donnie did do was link to the statement from the LAPD that said Elons stalker story was bullshit.

Timberrrrrrrr

He put up a poll asking when the elon jet account should be unbanned

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073?t=CF0yuJdC0TkS7yglZ3Bz-g&s=19

Didn't like how the original poll was going apparently so has changed it because it had "too many options".

Real Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002227#Comment_120002227

Finally, some good news 🤣

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002227#Comment_120002227

I’d love to see the free speech advocates defend this!

pjohnson

Only the most gullible ever believed "Free Speech" guff.

But the "most gullible" just so happens to overlap perfectly with "Musk cheerleaders".

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002239#Comment_120002239

Amazed his bots didnt get him his wishes immediately like his other polls have.

McHardcore

He is being a complete space-Karen right now.

They don’t mean actual freedom of speech in any kind of philosophical sense, rather it’s just some notion that everyone has to be forced to uncritically listen to their insane ranting at clouds and bonkers conspiracy theories and/or that they should be able to hurl abuse and insults without feedback or consequences.

ChickenDish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002223#Comment_120002223

I'm sorry Musk hasnt realized anything, certainly not the dangers of "free speech", He is a narcissist throwing a very public tantrum by banning anyone who dare question or call him on his BS. The irony is all his fanboys will tell you he is an even bigger champion of free speech by stopping free speech.

Boggles

Jesus, even for Space Karen standards this is some hissy fit.

You just know he hasn't left the office in weeks, probably píssing into the sink he brought with him and washing himself with the píss.

Wouldn't surprise me if he pulled the plug on the whole cess pit and fúcked off like the petulant cockwomble he is.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002280#Comment_120002280

The Free Speech mantra has always been a total facade for the reality: Musk was píssing off the "right" kind of people that some here, or in other environs, really hated. "The libs", basically, or anybody with a scintilla of public compassion towards those on the fringes; that, hey, maybe being an outrageous díckhead to others isn't a virtue or should be allowed on public fora. Beyond issues of government censorship, I've not seen a single recent argument towards Free Speech Absolutism that hasn't ultimately boiled down to "I wanna be a huge ásshole to [insert social grouping here] without being judged by others as an ásshole"

Elon Musk is an ásshole. A rich ásshole, and we know that's alluring to some. It's funny 'cos he's running Twitter exactly in the manner some here accuse Boards mods/admins of doing. A little Hitler banning and juking the system just to wield petty, insecure power against those he doesn't like, or those who question his bona-fides.

Doctor Jimbob

It’s hilarious to me that the dimwits who support this clown go around calling others easily offended snowflakes. What an utterly embarrassing thin skinned cretin of a man.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002273#Comment_120002273

They should get this free speech advocate involved in the discussion

farmingquestion

Lol Donie is suspended! haha

Ah don't worry about it, he'll unsuspend them in a week at most.

The circlejerk over that Donie lad was cringe just because he's Irish who made it onto CNN. Just shows the inferiority complex this country has.

hotmail.com

No doubt about it. This time the do gooders are going to leave twitter in their droves.

Oh wait...

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002410#Comment_120002410

Musky is too busy banning any non Muskharďs to give them a chance.

lawrencesummers

Maybe someone can clarify this.

Sharing the location of musks jet is seen as bad because your sharing real time information about his location, and sharing realtime information about someones location is not good.

How is it then that posters are allowed to post videos of people at matches, playing sports, doing all sorts of things. When harry kane missed a penalty and people posted that information to twitter it gives harry kanes location in real time.

What am i missing here? Other than the muskegotrip

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002630#Comment_120002630

You're not missing anything. It's purely an ego trip and reactionary impulse. As you say, the change in the Terms of Service hold no water when stacked up against the myriad of real-world examples like sports matches. A billionaire got insecure & píssy 'cos someone was sharing public information on Twitter - information protected by the 1st Amendment no less in the US - and so Billy Big Balls had him banned, the ToS changd. That's about the size of it and the rest is dissembling by the Sunk Cost crowd.

mcmoustache

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002200#Comment_120002200

It just demonstrates that those going on about free speech and its importance aren't to be taken at face value. It's never about free speech as a principle, it's about being able to be a cnut without consequences. Saying "I'm pro free speech" sounds less objectional that saying "I should be allowed to threaten that n*gger with a noose and a burning cross". When anyone claims to be pro free speech, they're usually hiding what this free speech is to be used for and with a good reason.

For example, I believe that people should be allowed to criticise the state, government agencies, elected officials etc without being sanctioned by the state. In other words, I believe in freedom of speech and when pressed, I'm happy to explain why this freedom is important. When you ask some right-wing reactionary about why this freedom is important, especially in a thread about why their favourite shítehawk got banned off some private platform, they'll claim to be lofty philosophers who love freedom of speech for its own sake. They won't want to admit what they want to do with this freedom. It's no different to the historical revisionists who claim that the American civil war was about States' rights and not slavery - sure it was about the rights of states but it was specifically about the rights of states to practice slavery. Freedom of speech is the same - when someone claims to be pro free speech, it's quite meaningless without including what that freedom is for.

Unfortunately, when you just want to be a cnut, you'll want to hide that so claiming to be in favour of free speech without going any further in terms of what that free speech entails will give the illusion of a sensible position without giving away the underlying cnutiness that you want to hide.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002630#Comment_120002630

Missing nothing. It was an ill-conceived change made in a fit of pique.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002771#Comment_120002771

"It's never about free speech as a principle, it's about being able to be a cnut without consequences. "

This should be put up on billboards.

Wolf359f

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1603701489490354176?s=20&t=ygvB6qpMDlbybZ5W4FuHCw

Reading the comments is entertaining, people don't realize that to do business in the EU, one has to abide by EU laws and regulations.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120002872#Comment_120002872

If Brexit has shown anything, it's that there's a resting, critical lack of understanding of what the EU actually is and how it works. Can't say it's surprising that it's mostly US/UK voices that shout the loudest and most ignorantly WRT the bloc's rulesets.

Snake Plisken

Very true can't be doing that to the media arm of the government now can we

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603602018727104513?s=19

Also delighted Donnie got banned, an embarrassment to the country just hope he doesn't get kicked out and end up on RTE

pixelburp

If journalists started flying around in private jets, they're probably being paid too much.

Dohnjoe

Here's a thread with a list of journalists and pundits who have just been suspended/banned by Elon's tantrum Twitter

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1603551884748460034

pixelburp

Also, if journalists' locations were being tracked real-time, then of course it'd be a case for the FBI 'cos there'd be some kind of illegal phone hacking going on - so yes of course law enforcement would be involved. As opposed to what Musk is whinging talking about, which is people using publicly available data, surfaced by a myriad of already-existent tools & protected by the 1st Amendment.

The two scenarios aren't even comparable, except in the mind of Musk's idiot siege mentality and those willing to go to bat for someone píssy 'cos his private jet's public location was being shared.

Snort.

Dyr

Remember the mantras of the last 5 years, girls and boys, all together now:

A company can decide who gets to use their product, if you dont like it build your own 😂

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003163#Comment_120003163

We know. People are just pointing out your beloved Musks hypocrisy.

magicbastarder

Has this been posted yet?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ForeverEversley/status/1603612770892918784/

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003171#Comment_120003171

Absolutely - He can do whatever he wants with it; and he is, even if what he wants is apparently "burn it to the ground and leave mountains of debt".

However he is very very loudly saying one thing and then when it comes to anyone that says anything about him he is doing something very very different.

It's the knee jerk bouncing from guard-rail to guard rail that is keeping everyone interested.

hotmail.com

Nobody cares about American journalists.

Americans and free speech. Their media is the worst in the Western World.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003206#Comment_120003206

he is a thin-skinned narcissist. The crossover between Trump fans and Musk fans really stands out.

spakman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003227#Comment_120003227

which journalists do you care about?

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003227#Comment_120003227

Elon apparently does

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003163#Comment_120003163

Not when you’re championing free speech and then banning people for free speech.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003326#Comment_120003326

But Twitter has always championed free speech while banning people for speech it doesnt like

Just ask Jack Dorsey.

Cody montana

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mohawk

I never got the love for Musk over the years. I worked with lads before that thought he was a genius.

I think many extremely wealthy people are surrounded by so many people whose job it is to attend to every whim and as a result they never hear the word no or get called out on their BS. It has to affect the mind and ego. He appears extremely thin-skinned.

I am increasingly starting to think Twitter isn’t a good place to have important discussions about our society and so maybe not a terrible thing if it either fails or loses most users. It’s probably too late to undo the damage of the echo chamber effect that blights much of social media. Twitter has always banned people whose views they don’t like. It’s just now a different set of people are getting the boot.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003163#Comment_120003163

He's free to ban people as he sees fit, and people are free to call him out for being a ****, which is exactly what is happening. If he bans enough people and drives others to spend less/no time on his platform he's only opening up opportunities for competing social media companies.

McFly85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003381#Comment_120003381

Who had Jack Dorsey personally banned because he didn’t like them?

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003721#Comment_120003721

Who said Jack Dorsey personally banned someone that he didnt like?

McFly85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003736#Comment_120003736

Okay then, so there were accounts Twitter as a company simply didn’t like that were banned? Who were they?

Agent Coulson

Watching an interview with the kid who built the Elon plane tracking bot and he was showing the DM's he had gotten off Musk offering him $5k to close down the bot account and stop tracking his plane.

The kid countered with $50k and a Tesla and Musk never replied.

Might have saved himself $44B if he had just paid the kid $50k and a Tesla instead of buying Twiiter and then banning the account.

The Musk supporters are something else on this thread.

Lads. You're never going to be as rich as .1% of him. You're never going to meet him. He truly couldn't give a sh*te about any of ye.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003747#Comment_120003747

Are you already wrlggling to redefine parameters? It's now accounts that Twitter "simply didnt like that were banned" 😂

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120003994#Comment_120003994

That was the point from the start. Musk's ego couldn't handle negative posts and they got banned. As you say he is free to do so and people here are free to point out his previous statements about bringing free speech to the world of twitter was a load of lies.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120004018#Comment_120004018

Musk is now banning accounts of people that he doesn't like or that offend him. Unless jack was doing the same thing then there is no comparison.

magicbastarder

and this is from a free speech absolutist. who has a very henry ford approach to free speech.