So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766699#Comment_120766699

its a long time since Musk missed a meal.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766699#Comment_120766699

That's an over simplification of the whole "we're just animals" reduction. Everyone carries insecurities and anxieties, but we don't externalise them - or allow them to mutate - to the degree Elon Musk and other billionaires do; indeed, you'd think with the unfathomable wealth they have, they'd be the most well-adjusted people - given they could afford any treatment or care they might choose. The biggest blocker to mental or physical health services we experience is often the financial one - what limits do Musk and Zuckerberg have?

(To be fair, the biggest hurdle to getting mental-health help is recognising you need the help in the first place; and given the man's circles, I don't imagine Musk has many in his network who'd say "Elon, get some help mate")

Stevie2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766736#Comment_120766736

Guys like Musk and Zuck are killers, they have no moral conscience, they are not normal people, they've egos beyond belief and they probably think they can do anything, Musk probably believes he could have been heavyweight champ if he trained since 5 years old, that's the kind of deluded your dealing with. Of course he's not got people saying get some help, if he listened to them he wouldn't be where he is today

Stevie2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766707#Comment_120766707

Haha that is true :)

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120755373#Comment_120755373

It just keeps getting worse. Recent things I have noticed:

• There are so many more "promoted tweets" now. Often low quality get-rich quick type stuff
• On Android If you try and open a Video on full screen there are so many different glitches and bugs that can happen - or even just bad design such as the description covering the entire of the video and if you press on the screen to try and remove it it's 50/50 that you end up switching to another video
• Yesterday I opened the Quoted tweets on a tweet and it told me that there were none, despite the fact that the original tweet said there were 60+ of them and I had originally found the tweet via a quoted tweet!
• During the Russian coup attempt - a fast moving story with multiple threads - the sort of thing that Twitter is ideal for - I found I had to skim past so many blue check mark accounts who were talking absolute rubbish. Also a banner advertising a Twitter Space, full of pro-Kremlin stooges like Kim Dot Com was on top of my feed for ages.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766811#Comment_120766811

I don't doubt there's a chance of psychopathy, given it's well documented in CEOs and those higher in the corporate ladder, but there's the eccentricity of the wealthy and whatever strata Musk now occupies. Not often you witness an arguable untethering from reality, this publicly, while acolytes cheer it as secret genius cos he shares their views.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766864#Comment_120766864

Small caveat I'd argue, which was that Twitter's video playback has always been dogshít, way before Musk got his musk all over the service. There was a brief point it got a little better, more usable - though has gone shít all over again though.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766811#Comment_120766811

When was the last time you heard Jeff Bezos or Bernard Arnault or indeed any of the other mega wealthy types do or say the stuff that Musk does?

I completely agree that people at that level of wealth think and act differently to the average person but even among the ultra wealthy , Musk is a very weird individual indeed.

Musk comes across as a deeply insecure person constantly seeking approval and adulation.

Zuckerberg is also very awkward , but outwardly at least seems not to be quite as pathetically needy as Musk.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120767160#Comment_120767160

Musk comes across as a deeply insecure person constantly seeking approval and adulation.

Mummy and daddy didnt show him enough love.

He’s certainly always seeking attention, so it’s understandable why he was so attracted to buying what was at its peak the world’s largest megaphone.

Twitter wasn’t all bad. It was always problematic but it had a lot of positives. The removal of moderation, the botched verification system, the editorialising and showboating at the top and the way it’s drifting now is just rapidly eroding all of those positive aspects.

It will likely just fizzle out as other platforms begin to replace it. I don’t think Mastodon was it tbh. The next big thing will be something else and we probably won’t see it coming, but it will happen. There’s a gap in the market right now and it’s going to be filled by someone.

Timberrrrrrrr

Well that explains a lot!

"Elon Musk ‘takes ketamine to manage depression’

Tycoon has previously called for psychedelic drugs to be promoted as alternative to antidepressants"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/27/musk-takes-ketamine-to-manage-depression/

pixelburp

"Mr Musk has previously called for psychedelics and ketamine to be promoted as an alternative to prescribed antidepressants..."

Of course he does.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773049#Comment_120773049

I have ADHD, and many people I talk to online find great relief from microdosing LSD. I’ve never tried it, but there has been a lot of positivity toward their use for depression and ADHD.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773173#Comment_120773173

I'd imagine there's a very good, clinical reason why psychedelics aren't generally prescribed to people who would already have a more delicate, exacting mental balance. I'm sure for those it worked it has shown value - my immediate wondering would be the experience for those it didn't. It might even have the opposite end-result; but unless Musk has some clinical trials and evidence he should STFU and stop opining on everything.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773192#Comment_120773192

It’s quite split the scientific community, tbf. It’s not a completely half baked theory (for once)

https://psychcentral.com/news/microdosing-may-improve-mental-health

silliussoddius

Covid, space travel, terra forming Mars, solar energy, hyper loops, self driving cars, Russian foreign policy, Chinese foreign policy, vaccines, mental health.

Is there anything he can’t advise us on?

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766230#Comment_120766230

She must have heard about Zuck's unblockable shtoyle.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773937#Comment_120773937

Healthy personal relationships??

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773937#Comment_120773937

Naming your kids?

Actually, parenting in general?

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773937#Comment_120773937

Being a decent human being?

Tony EH

That might be a bit much to ask.

Quantum Erasure

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1673831774038949888

Apple just put up the full first episode of Silo on Twitter, ahead of the series finale. Just testing the waters, I'd say

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120773192#Comment_120773192

There's been a stigma against these for decades but there in an awful lot of research being done these days with promising results. You can't let your hatred of one man determine your entire stance on a massive topic. Like really, you'd have to be living in a cave on the moon to have not heard about all of these trials in the last few years.

I think it's very positive that famous people can #1 talk about depression and #2 talk about demonised drugs like ecstasy or LSD etc. so that the public gets used to them and understands they can have medical applications. You'd prefer for this to not happen for some reason.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120775961#Comment_120775961

That's not fair and an antagonistic read on my opinion: I don't want people not to have access to good treatments for mental health issues so please don't try that tactic. I'm acutely aware, as would many people, of both what it is to have mental-health problems - or the dangers of not having the right access to help. Thankfully that's a changing tide, especially in Ireland though not so much America. I don't "prefer" people not to have options; Jesus.

But I think until there's a reliable consensus about psychedelics as a treatment for mental issue, celebrity endorsement isn't helpful; doesn't matter if it's Elon Musk or Tom Hanks, as a broad opinion it's not healthy to have celebrities deploying their opinion en masse like they're an authority. It's not so cute when, say, it's spreading CoVid disinformation and scepticism.

If you say there is research, then cool, I'd be interested to see it & if it's akin to cannabis becoming an accepted treatment for pain management ... but until there there is that sense of confidence, it's irresponsible for celebrities to use their public platform to promote these things. Until we know for certain it's a net positive, we shouldn't just talk it up like it's a panacea. By all means promote the conversation, but public endorsement should be careful.

Right, so you think what I did was unfair, but then you drag Covid disinformation into it and try to equate the two.

He's allowed to have an opinion on this stuff, and he told friends, not us, that he take ketamine for depression. His other public posts are pretty benign and are nothing particularly new with him saying people should be open mind towards psychedelics as treatment. This isn't a vaccination campaign against a global pandemic. Wellbutrin is regarded as dangerous when it comes to suicides and the people who mocked him for his comments only served to make the drug appear harmless.

I simply do not believe that your opinion on this is rooted in anything other than your dislike for the man since you ended that post with "he should STFU and stop opining on everything.". Had he said that illegal drugs are bad and people should not go near psychedelics and should instead do what he does and use prescription drugs for depression, you'd be saying he should keep his right wing opinions to himself.

You don't need to criticise someone for every single thing they do. When you criticise everything, you criticise nothing. You are literally arguing that the man should not have an opinion on his own depression.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120776236#Comment_120776236

Well yes I say you're being unfair because you're now you're just having a go, and trying to just decide I'm blinded by some hatred of Musk - rather than interrogating my view that until there's a safe medical consensus that's equivalent to that of cannabis, I think it's premature to promote the use of psychedelics. It's not a particularly radical view that maybe caution should be applied; It's as simple as that, and trying to frame me as an irrational lunatic is ... yes, unfair at best.

Flaneur had already corrected my initial, premature dismissal in a far more conversational tone; providing some context on the subject - without resorting to weird personal digs and putting words in my mouth. Not worth continuing to talk if you're just going to fight some strawman version of me. Sure we could all do that.

pixelburp

Anyone else today find they can't open Tweets without logging in anymore? Embedding still seems to work, just tested here as I typed, but if you click through you're bumped back to the homepage.

I wonder if that's a bug or intentional, cos the latter's ... an interesting choice. Other social media will still let you view profiles and posts, albeit with some interactions curtailed (often obvious ones such as "liking" etc), but totally preventing the tweets visibility? I guess they're trying to force more sign-ups and logins.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120787827#Comment_120787827

Yeah. Tried opening a couple of feeds that I look at on a semi regular basis. When I close the log in window it brings me to the base page where I'm told I have to sign up or log in. Whereas before I could just read the thread.

I'm not a Twatter member, and have no interest in signing up to be either.

But, mmmmmm, if that's intentional it's just, yet another, bizarre move in a long series of random bizarre moves.

Penn

It's definitely intentional. Have seen others point it out on Twitter today.

Nobody is going to sign up based on this. If they haven't signed up before, they're not going to now. All people are going to do is screenshot tweets and post them as images instead of posting a link to people.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120787873#Comment_120787873

Or just replace "twitter.com" with "nitter.it" in the url.

And voila instant work around.

pixelburp

Not sure the explanation makes a tonne of sense, especially given every sibling in social media is capable of letting unauthorised users view content; so why not Twitter?

"Pillaged" is a weirdly loaded word, and maybe reading between the lines this is another offshoot of the reduced staffing and knowledge base; nobody's around to help throttle or tackle the load caused by unauth'ed access so the "emergency" response is to block all access to people like me, while Devs try to fashion a plaster fix. At least it's temporary?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674865731136020505

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120787921#Comment_120787921

how does this work?

any work around for this block?

Panrich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120790779#Comment_120790779

I think nitter is blocked as well now.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120790970#Comment_120790970

cant seem to get it to work myself either, ah im sure some clever fcuker will figure it out soon....

Flaneur OBrien

This may go to prove to me that I don't actually need twitter at all any more. I hadn't logged in since the takeover, but occasionally clicked on a twitter link if I couldn't see the full article.

Rather strange wager that Musk is making, hoping people will be so desperate to see articles they'll create accounts.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120791010#Comment_120791010

never created an account myself, boards is the only social media i have ever really done, couldnt be bothered with the rest, but always found twitter really good to get access to peoples work i really like, but you can see since the take over, theyve been trying to block viewers only, they ll probably lift these measures soon, when they achieve a certain number of new subs, and/or someone figures out a work around....

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120791010#Comment_120791010

I was similar. I did initially keep using it after the take over but left soon after when the quality of my feed dropped drastically. This just provided the motivation to close the account entirely. It just seems pointless at this stage, twitter got a lot of clicks through those stories, now people won't use them as much and twitter will just narrow down to its core user base a bit.

Brussels Sprout

I noticed I was getting errors Searching for accounts about an hour ago. Now my timeline won't load.

Every day it gets worse and worse.

Edit: Seeing a message saying my account is "rate limited please wait a moment".

I have a second account that seems to be working fine.

The Cleverest Man Ever doesn’t appear to be very good at running a pretty basic social media website.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120791579#Comment_120791579

I keep getting "cannot retrieve tweets"

Seems we're not alone.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-down-social-media-outage-b2367772.html

Podge_irl

Its a fascinating case study in how to absolutely **** something up. Also a good case study for a CEO who doesn't know what his job is, which is not to get involved in lower level stuff he doesn't remotely understand.

francois

The blue check Elmo stans will be happy.

No doubt some bs excuse about congestion on the way.

zell12

 “Something went wrong. Try reloading” & “Sorry, you are rate limited".

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120791726#Comment_120791726

He should stick to EVs.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-tesla-documents-reveal-major-050000723.html

nachouser

"Your tweet is important to us. There are 1,256,834 Tweets currently in the queue ahead of yours. Please try again later. *poop emoji*"

Brussels Sprout

What a shambles:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672

Not sure Intergalactic Intelligence gets the idea behind an ad supported website. 44 thousand million dollars to run a website into the ground must surely go down as the worst business move of all time.

odyssey06

Is that 600 real posts or are those crappy ads counted too?

Agent Coulson

I doubt it will see the end of July now before it closes down.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120792482#Comment_120792482

And some people think this clown will be the one to have humans living on mars. He can’t even get twitter working.

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120791579#Comment_120791579

Clearly the second account was working because it hadn't read 600 tweets yet. What a joke.

Funny to see the Blue Check Marks turn on him in the replies: