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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,578 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    None of this venture seems to have worked out terribly well for him, which begs the question why it was that he kicked it of in the first place. The "free speech" baloney has always been just a load of hot air. So is it purely a money thing? If so, I wonder what the revenue in real terms is from something like Twitter. Plus, if Musk was to turn it into a free-for-all situation akin to a chan or something, I can easily imagine a lot of associates doing a runner, rather than be associated with something like that.

    It's been a curious thing indeed.

    Or maybe it's all been a misguided profile raiser? But did Musk really need anything in the way of that either?

    Perhaps it's merely a case where a guy with so much money was just looking for an entertaining time waster to pass a few months.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    The way he is acting, I fully expect him to go Howard Hughes/Monty Burns soon





  • Registered Users Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Going well I see.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah, all this talk of, "What's the end game here" and "what is Musk doing?" Is looking increasingly like the answer is "cocaine and mental illness".


    Now ranting about the "woke mind virus", which sounds like someone he picked up straight off 4chan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Is it "woke" for someone to believe coming out as autistic makes them immune to criticism when they're a dick?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    How Tesla is worth more than the entire motor industry is just bonkers to me.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Nothing particularly new about rich people trying to control the media by buying it, like Tony O’Reilly and Denis O’Brien did.

    DOB lost his shirt on it too, looks like Musk could have toppled over the entire empire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    His point being that they should know the basics and bones of their Job and industry


    Hardy controversial



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  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    A systems analyst will know the basics of the industry.

    That's entirely not what he's demanding. He want his managers actually doing the job while also trying to manage the team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,160 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I'm amazed none of Elons cheerleaders have yet explained how NDA's and hush money are key parts of Free Speech.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭Cordell


    NDAs are mutual agreements done usually for mutual protection of intelectual property and trade secrets and hush money is a mutual agreement where a party voluntarily accept money from another party in exchange for keeping something (usually something ilegal or embarrassing or damaging) secret. In fairness I never thought that such simple notions need explaining and obviously none of them have nothing to do with free speech.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    He's paying off people to keep his dirty little secrets, regardless of what corporate spin you want to put on it - just slightly hypocritical for a supposed free speech advocate.

    Is there any independent board members with a backbone at Tesla? How long before they dump him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I mean, I can start to see why people consider him a genius. No person with a normal level of intelligence would try to source a legal department on Twitter.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Musk definitely going for the "diminished responsibility/insanity" plea when his acquisition of Twitter fails and he gets sued.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Don't really see the point of all of this. Maybe when you have more money than God himself, business becomes boring and your hyper-billionaire energy has to go somewhere. Bill Gates puts it into philanthropy, whereas Musk puts it into Twitter. On balance, I'd say the former is doing more for the world.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,225 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    His wealth is almost completely tied to the current gross overvaluation of Tesla

    They make very nice cars and all, but the company being valued at many multiples of all of the other Car manufacturers is just nonsense.

    If the bubble of confidence and belief around Musk and his ability to create some awesome future bursts the drop in the stock price could be enormous as based on the normal measures like sales and revenue , Tesla is only worth a fraction of the current level

    His current behaviour, which quite frankly is more than a little odd, might go a long way to bursting that bubble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I don't know which one is grossly overvaluated, Tesla which have factories and real products, or Twitter which has nothing. But he's using overvalued stock to buy other overvaluated stock, so that's all good, right?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,297 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It barely took 24 hours from Musk becoming a Republican for him to be Me Too'd.

    Some things never change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,621 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    By design I imagine, he couldn't get there quick enough, they are the party that embraces the sex pest.

    He'll be safe there.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fantastic point as always, the GOP do like to entirely gloss over sexual harassment. Are you disputing the sexual harassment? He chose to pay her off which adds credibility rather than taking away. Also do you think he didn't know this story wasn't breaking? So gullible?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,297 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    He paid her what 250k was it and he earns on average 22k per minute so it wasnt even worth 15 minutes of his time.

    A nothing story.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cause cheap payouts by rich guys is a new thing? Eg Trump and his porn star was a similar sum. On top of that, he seemed to blackball her, limiting career progression etc. Which is more in the vein of the likes of Harvey Weinstein cause that's how he historically did it. Obviously, nothing to indicate he's comparable but this is a powerful dickhead, acting as such. Obviously as per your history, you'll adore that kind of guy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    These are genuinely the two most stupid posts I have ever seen on this website. They are so unspeakably idiotic I can’t put it into words.

    To fall for Musk’s incredibly blatant attempt to cut the scandal off at the pass by joining the GOP is one thing, there’s one born every minute.

    But then to imply that his behaviour was alright because he didn’t pay her off with a sum of money large enough to impress you is another thing. How much of Musk’s time do you think this woman’s dignity is worth? An hour of his earnings? A day’s? Then he can expose his penis to unconsenting strangers to his heart’s content? How can you live a life completely absent of any moral compass? I am agog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Is that the porn star that lost her defamatioin case and wound having the guts of half a million awarded against her?

    Good example 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Maybe he think waggling his wiener is protected by the First Amendment.


    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pretty sure this changes none of the material facts of why he paid off her... The Musk one is far more serious given the behaviour btw, consent was out the window....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,160 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Mr_Jacko


    This title is misleading, he hasn't bought anything yet...



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Only a woman’s silence it would seem.

    With Tesla stock spiralling downwards, I can’t see this going ahead.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    At rate the Tesla stock are going, it's facing a 50% drop from a high of 1200usd in January. They've also been lobbed off the S&P index. A sex scandal is just gonna hit them harder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,297 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    Had a nightmare there the other day as regards getting booted from a social platform.

    Even though I experienced a crushing of 'muh free speech' I still maintain that twitter have no responsibility for free-speech, and couldn't give a donkeys who owns it, give it to the Donald, give it to Corbyn, not a solitary shyte given.

    I believe in both free speech and also of the right of organizations to boot or deny who they want from a platform (as long as its in line with national laws regarding protected status). My issue was always with how parts of the online public just woke up one morning and arbitrarily decided that twitter was now the 'neW t owN squAre' and that laws had to be changed because they got booted due to the inevitable arguments and moderator bias that happens on social media.

    However, all that rant aside, I can now see very clearly just how frustrating it can be when a moderator with an opposing political view decides to turn the system on you, brand you as all sorts and leave you with no fair recourse.

    And the most sinister and frustrating of all - when sites use fingerprinting, hidden cookies, ip tracking and device numbers to wipe out your alternative means of access - having tracked your use across devices. Facebook do this (I stopped FB long ago), a certain site which shall go unmentioned also uses some of these tricks, google do it of course, and oh you better believe reddit tracks you like a mofo, reddit can identify me by scent, and I wash (sometimes).

    There are legit topics which need to be discussed, but due to the connection between money and keeping your site politically correct for maximum advertiser revenue these topics get shut down instantly. Its all just money, of course. The site owners don't hold those smiley all inclusive political views, the site owners in some instances probably hold quite the opposite views to the projected friendliness. They'd get kicked from their own sites if they didn't know better and to keep their hypocrisy hidden.

    Anyway, good luck to Mr Musk, I know little about him and care less. May he have full Dr Evil control over twitter as the law allows.

    Also good luck to Mr Dorsey, I always supported his right to be as biased as he apparently was with his site. And still do.

    What was the question again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,578 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    @85603 What was the question again.

    What colour is this dress?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The woman's silence seems to have been for sale if he bought it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Not much of an advocate for free speech is he?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,297 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    These are genuinely the two most stupid posts I have ever seen on this website. They are so unspeakably idiotic I can’t put it into words.

    Typical Hyperbolic exaggeration.

    Out of millions of posts these are two of the most stupid.

    How can you live a life completely absent of any moral compass

    Dont lecture me on morality.

    Actions speak louder than words, I behave morally unlike virtue signalling hypocrites.

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

    Musk seems to be their new figure of Hate, they are crawling out of the woodwork.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I dunno. If someone is willing to remain quiet about something you would prefer they didn't say, if they get enough money, then paying them an agreed amount isn't anything to do with free speech. It's a transaction.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Not “two of,” they are “the two” most stupid posts on this website, out of millions of posts. There are no two posts on this site more stupid than those two posts. They are so so stupid.

    As for the comment about virtue signalling, it doesn’t really apply to criticising people who whip their knobs out at strangers. I know you think it’s alright because he paid her off with less than an hour of his salary but the rest of us are perfectly entitled to slag him off for it safe in the knowledge that we’re not hypocrites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭Cordell


    How much of Musk’s time do you think this woman’s dignity is worth?

    She sold her dignity for exactly the time required to earn 250K after tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,160 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Interesting to see Muskites still cheer on their hero.

    If 250k is enough to sweep away exposing yourself, I wonder whats the going rate for covering up other crimes?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    She took the money though. Rather than reporting it at the time. She saw his penis and accepted a quarter million dollars for the "trauma".

    Peculiar it has become an issue again. Maybe someone is in her ear.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Eh, all you guys seem to have ignored that Musk also limited her career progression as a result of the incident.


    In relation to such incidents and not going to the police, starting an individual sexual harassment case against one of the richest people in the world is something she would not be likely to succeed in, it'd likely damage her more.


    I'm being reminded distinctly of how certain posters used attack certain victims of Harvey Weinstein over the years cause they didn't meet their criteria of victim. Clearly there's a fair few posters that view exposing themselves to employees as okay....



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    It was her friend who leaked it. The person in question was happy with the 250k until someone got in her ear

    If not then why go to the media and not the police!

    To look for more money .And the timing

    Nobody is buying into the fake moral outrage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    You can be damn sure that lot would be singing a different “tune” if the dude with his flute out was black, or an Arab.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭Penn




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lol. Quick! Accuse "people" of racism for "absolutely" no reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Ah now, D, I, most certainly, wouldn’t accuse you of racism, on here, because, we both know, that you can never be racist. No matter what you say, or do.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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