So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

CGI_Livia_Soprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109244#Comment_119109244

The naivety.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109476#Comment_119109476

Perhaps you can explain how it works, you seem to be type that knows a great about any given subject

CGI_Livia_Soprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109485#Comment_119109485

Do you want me to help you swallow your food as well? Here comes the aeroplane. ✈️ Woah ho put that away!

The girl complained to SpaceX who paid her off not to go to “the authorities,” probably under threat of suing her into oblivion.

It’s well known that the rich and powerful use their considerable resources to avoid answering for personal transgressions and this is clearly what Musk did here.

I’d say he must be sitting back and roaring his head off like Sosa talking to Tony on the phone in Scarface when Musk thinks about all the useful idiots who stick up for him on forums such as these.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109523#Comment_119109523

Thankfully I have full control over my digestive system so I can swallow of my own voltion, which means I'm not going to swallow this brick of fairy tale 😂

So this person Musk allegedly waved his willy at wasnt a stranger? Is that correct?

and SpaceX "Probably" threatened her? You mean like in your imagination they did right? And he's now laughing like a film villian? One post and I could get you spouting hypothetical scenarios and speculating as per your signature. Enjoy the view from your own petard 🤣

I assume all this gossip has a reliable source? Or even a source? Any authorities involved in investigating this alleged crime?

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108484#Comment_119108484

So we agree, both are horrible individuals and both have stellar achievements. You just seem to care more about how they were as a person, I care more about what they did for the world. And just fyi, it's extremely difficult if not impossible to find a leader at their level which isn't a horrible person or a sociopath. This is just how the world works.

CGI_Livia_Soprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109869#Comment_119109869

What has Musk done for the world? Flog substandard cars and not buy Twitter. What a genius.

CGI_Livia_Soprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109856#Comment_119109856

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5?amp

There’s your source, give that a read and you should realise that Elon is using his army of “stans” to whitewash his reputation for him for nothin’. He’s making a fool out of you.

Maybe find out what “the digestive system” and “petard” are while you’re at it.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119109939#Comment_119109939

So the source is someone who was told by someone else what allegedly happened, are you familiar with the expression "Dúirt ban liom go ndúirt ban léi"? Still swinging up there I see. 😂

AndrewJRenko

It's great to see Musk living up to his 'free speech ' credentials again

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1532674985407533056?t=JU1Tv836WXkuXCQCx1p65g&s=19

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156480#Comment_119156480

It’s almost like these people are hypocrites?

I see his stock isn’t doing so well again.

Cordell

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences, right?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156902#Comment_119156902

Totally and I can get a person losing their job if they bring their employers into disrepute via online actions. This is more akin to them using social media to shutdown any efforts around worker's rights etc. His latest news around the plan on how to handle layoffs just makes him sound like the very worst kind of employer and it will result in brain drain ironically. Anyway, in relation to the thread title, the twitter deal looks likely to be the dead in the water and it really backfired for tesla itself. Imagine the layoffs stuff will hit them even more.

https://slate.com/business/2022/06/elon-musk-twitter-stock-deal-wall-street.html

AndrewJRenko

There's the free speech advocate showing his colours again

https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1537845889829584900?t=Pi4gHx4xtKqQd8UEvkmOGA&s=19

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119220450#Comment_119220450

That's pretty much the tip of the iceberg in terms of dodgy stuff that has been pulled with his employees.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp

Dyr

blanketing thousands of people across the company with repeated unsolicited emails and asking them to sign letters and fill out unsponsored surveys during the work day is not acceptable, goes against our documented handbook policy, and does not show the strong judgement needed to work in this very challenging space transportation sector. We performed an investigation and have terminated a number of employees involved.

Cracking work by SpaceX firing those workplace activists who seem to think they should be allowed to organise a coup against the CEO on the companys time. I'd say the twitter slacktivists are **** themselves that they may actually have to become adult professionals in their workplace

Full statement:

You may have received an unsolicited request from a small group of SpaceX employees for your signature on an “open letter” yesterday and your participation in a related survey. Based on diverse employee feedback, this has upset many. That is, the letter, solicitations and general process made employees feel uncomfortable, intimidated and bullied, and/or angry because the letter pressured them to sign onto something that did not reflect their views. Employees also complained that it interfered with their ability to focus on and do their work. We have 3 launches within 37 hours for critical satellites this weekend, we have to support the astronauts we delivered to the ISS and get cargo Dragon back to the flight-ready, and after receiving environmental approval early this week, we are on the cusp of the first orbital launch attempt of Starship. We have too much critical work to accomplish and no need for this kind of overreaching activism — our current leadership team is more dedicated to ensuring we have a great and ever-improving work environment than any I have seen in my 35-year career.

We solicit and expect our employees to report all concerns to their leadership, senior management, HR, or Legal. But

I am sorry for this distraction. Please stay focused on the SpaceX mission, and use your time at work to do your best work. This is how we will get to Mars.

Cordell

Freedom of speech does mean freedom of being fired for bullying and misconduct. Also people seem confused about the delimitation between personal time and personal freedom and company time when you are employed and payed to work, not exercise your freedom of speech.

Looks like the thread title needs updating again

Dohnjoe

Relieved. Musk is veering more and more off the deep end, he'll be full Trump in a few years, not exactly someone I want to see controlling a major social media platform. Have really gone off the guy.

xxxxxxl

So was it a pump and dump. Could trash Twitters share price. 6% after the pull out.

Faugheen

And the usual suspects have had their trousers pulled down… again.

When will they learn?

pjohnson

This is a hard time for the gullible Musk-ians. The educated shouldn't gloat at the poor souls.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119311798#Comment_119311798

They would happily buy invisible magic beans if Elon told them too.

Boggles

But but but, what about owning the libs?

Beasty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119311543#Comment_119311543

Sorted

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119312196#Comment_119312196

It was never about them, but it was nice to see them squirm. Again. It would have been beautiful to see them do it even more and every day, but we should be happy with what we got. And they are doing a great job owning themselves anyway.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119312393#Comment_119312393

Does "squirm" mean gut laugh uncontrollably?

Elonomics.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119312430#Comment_119312430

There was a bit of a hissy fit thrown to be fair though...

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119312545#Comment_119312545

Sure you'll have that. Isn't that Twitters business model?

The current €44 billion hissy fit will be decided by the courts.

A man potentially forced to by a company that he never wanted at a price probably 60% above current value.

2022. Elonomics.

Personally I think they should definitely suspend his account until he pays the money he owes, that's epic welching.

Cordell

he pays the money he owes

He owes what to whom?

sameoldname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119313035#Comment_119313035

The $54.20 per share he agreed to pay to the shareholders of Twitter.

I have a feeling this thread will now become "Contract Law for Slow-Learners."

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119313035#Comment_119313035

He agreed to the deal. The deal was agreed and accepted by Twitter. It's only after the deal was made that he raised his issues about bots etc (he neglected to do so during the negotiations before the deal was made, and therefore he agreed to buy Twitter as it was). As such, he owes the sale price of 44bn or whatever to Twitter, as his failure to do due diligence does not negate the deal that was made.

At the very least he's likely to have to pay out 1bn to break out of the deal, but Twitter appear to be choosing to sue to force Musk to complete the deal he agreed to, especially considering the effect not completing the deal will have on the value of their shares.

So yes, currently, he appears to owe 44bn to complete the purchase of Twitter he agreed to because he's a f*cking numpty who did it for attention and didn't think Twitter would actually agree to sell to him.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119311636#Comment_119311636

I told him to never go full Trump

Bass Reeves

Musk problem is he bid for the company at the wrong time. The tech share prices have tanked and it highly probable at this stage he cannot finance the deal. Orginally he made a low ball bid that became very attractive.

Oafley Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119313163#Comment_119313163

Any time would be a bad time to buy twitter, unless you’re paying pennies on the dollar. Everyone else who has looked at twitter as an acquisition has quickly realised it just a bag of issues with no easy solution, full of arseholes and bots, limited utility and reach with the normals and has no real way of being monitized.

Shoog

More dirty dealing from the little **** Musk.

brokenangel

Twitter is a cess pool, at this stage it’s probably at least 100 - 1 in terms of bots v actual people

In terms of Musk, he is playing the markets for years to make himself richer, the whole Bitcoin was a joke, said you could buy a Tesla with Bitcoin, price went up, then he said you couldn’t and price went down. Did he make money out of that? Of course

Because he is based in US and they love him he gets away with it, if it was an overseas person then the US would be trying to throw them in jail

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119313091#Comment_119313091

Or maybe the know it all insufferable types may learn to use the proper terms.

sameoldname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119313826#Comment_119313826

What was improper about the phrase "pays what he owes" in a thread about Elon Musk agreeing to purchase Twitter, that you had a problem understanding? Or were you being obtuse?

_Kaiser_

It all seems pretty simple to me. It was all a stock play by Musk

All the rest - fixing Twitter, restoring balance, whatever - was just window dressing to inflate the price and profit. All a con.

The whole cult around the guy is baffling. He's basically Gordon Gekko with better PR.

kowloon

Do lawyers accept bitcoin?

rob316

It was all a cleverly concocted plan to liquidate 8.5bn of Tesla stock.

Like who would actually buy twitter let alone pay the best of 50bn for it?

Snake Plisken

Why would anyone overpay for a business who's stock tanked? Also it seems the answers (or lack of) from the Twitter board gave about the amount of Bot accounts seems to have given him and his lawyers a way out, He might still buy it but at a big discount.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119315742#Comment_119315742

That depends on whether he started asking questions before or after the deal was agreed. It'll be decided in court.

riclad

Of course he wants to drop out of the deal, he offered way too much per share, the tech stock market has dropped as soon as he made the offer, he's trying to make up excuses about theres many bots, he's behaving like a spoiled child,, tesla shares fell, he'd have to sell alot of tesla shares to buy twitter, of course he, ll likely have to pay a penalty fee, to get out of this,

Maybe off topic, but his behaviour around women is very strange, it's come out that he has had 2 children with an employee slightly before he made grimes pregnant.

He go, s on about free speech.

I doubt if he wants his workers or union organisers the right to talk to each other or talk about working conditions at tesla

Twitter is a vital service for media Politicans journalists government, ordinary people to talk to other people a great venue for free speech and is avaidable in many country's where tiktok is blocked

Of course its tiny in comparison to YouTube or tik tok

I'm not sure how you can value twitter versus say YouTube where you can look at costs versus ad revenue

Tesla cars are nice the self driving mode is a disaster there's videos on YouTube where its shown trying to crash into walls or other parked cars before the driver takes control

His wealth is based on tesla shares value but in reality he can only sell off a small amount of shares

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119314124#Comment_119314124

When you agree to buy something you don't owe any money right away. You owe money only after the other party has delivered that something to you. At this point in this deal neither party hasn't delivered anything yet so no one owes anything.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119315742#Comment_119315742

The thing is, since day one people have questioned if he ever wanted to buy it. Within a week of him announcing the deal, it rapidly became apparent that he did not. Also it's on him if he didn't do due diligence prior to making the deal.

Anyway, the apparent saviour he was gonna be for Trump and the right to say whatever they want on Twitter is dead in the water. 😂

is_that_so

You do get the impression that he wanted out of it from Day 1 and just bid because he could. It will be interesting to see how things unfold for him into the future. SpaceX is a winner but the likes of Tesla may end up as a money pit as the traditional manufacturers get their acts together very fast on production rollout.

Snake Plisken

No I think once he got proper access to the data he needed he could see what a mess it was in and it was over valued.

Anyways lets see what happens next

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119316098#Comment_119316098

Anyway, the apparent saviour he was gonna be for Trump and the right to say whatever they want on Twitter is dead in the water. 😂

Thank fu-ck for that. We are all saved from more of the Orange Clown.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119316055#Comment_119316055

Do you get stuff from any online retailer C. O. D?

Even trying to get money back on non delivered items can be a battle.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119316301#Comment_119316301

https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1545950135989026816?s=20&t=cOFxO-i8qLCbimI7fpn8qQ

Didn't take long for this, and other headcases who were cheering him on as a way to own the libs to get the knives out or making excuses.

nigeldaniel

Would I be correct to think Musk realised at the last minute he cant really afford to buy Twitter? Like he tried to buy his own company a few years back and have it de-listed [from the stock market] and that did not work out to well either. Just a musing on my part.