So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803465#Comment_119803465

Spot the guy who has never worked with engineers.

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802899#Comment_119802899

Remember reading on a forum years ago: "Elon Musk sounds like a cheap deodorant or a nonce. Either way his spray is gonna be all over a load of 14-year-olds..."

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119802609#Comment_119802609

Why would he? Trump already said he wouldn't return and has his own greatest ever platform now.

Unless he was lying of course. But why would he do that

Musk is beholden to the advertisers now, he will be all talk but little action as his investors will want a return.

Donnie will have to be homeless I guess

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803529#Comment_119803529

I think it's been pointed out before that Trump's agreement with Truth Social means he has to use it as his main social media platform, so even if he rejoins Twitter he's supposed to post on Truth Social first and there has to be a delay (can't remember how long) before he can post the same thing on Twitter.

I'm not sure if it relates to all truths/tweets, or only ones of significance, but Truth Social is supposed to take precedence.

Then again, wouldn't be the first time Trump just ignores legal agreements...

I agree too that Musk is beholden to the advertisers. His statement yesterday or the day before was designed to try keep all advertisers on board by promising increased targeted advertising, making ads more relevant to people. Of course, that means increased data collecting on users in order to target ads to them which won't go down well.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803848#Comment_119803848

Indeed to the last bit: he's going to quickly come up against GDPR, Californian Law and the shifting sands that are Privacy Laws once he starts dícking around with Twitter's data-collection. I'd not be surprised if in a month or two Musk Peaces Out on this, hires a factotum to take over de-facto running of the company and never darkens Twitter's doors again. Much to the relief of those blue-haired weirdos no doubt, agitated by Musk's ... well, musk. 😂

Snake Plisken

Excellent news that he fired Vijaya Gadde.

I remember seeing her and Jack go up against Tim Pool on the JRE podcast and she couldn't addressed any of his questions on how biased Twitter was.

Top down clean out is the way go 👍

https://youtu.be/j6kTrhWDZmY

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803520#Comment_119803520

You mean the guy who qualifeed as an engineer over 20 years ago and been working with other engineers ever since?

Have another crack 😂

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803487#Comment_119803487

Reading comprehension not a strong point, I see.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803907#Comment_119803907

Reading comprehension not a strong point, I see.

Apologies I didn't know, there is adult services for that now though, best of luck. 👍️

archfi

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1585912664647413760

So, so beautiful.😄

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803907#Comment_119803907

Qualified 2003 and been working in IT/web quite happily since then; and working in similar tech stacks to those Twitter would be involved with. Like, if you're going to trot out silly generalisations - then you gonna be mocked. Especially this fantasy version of Twitter where poor, put-down Engineers are finally freed from blue-haired oppression. Do you reckon the blue-haired employees are a single department deployed out; or some kind of Liberal Commissar inserted to spy on lapses by hassled devs?

I'd spitball most employees couldn't give a shíte whose in charge, what colour hair or ideological leaning the admin dept may or may not adhere to - as long as the pay's good, the work-life balance's fair and (as it's America) the health plan covers their family.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803958#Comment_119803958

As an engineer I can confirm I care a lot about pay and benefits, but I also care a lot about my work, and leadership. And I won't last much if my work were to be judged by blue haired political driven woke weirdos that are clearly useless and lesser than me. Yes, indeed I'm very unapologetic* about my opinion that in the tech industry engineers are intellectually superior to everyone else :)

*here, IRL I'm not a dick so I keep it to myself. But I still believe it.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803991#Comment_119803991

You'd assume that they are all going to walk away with pretty significant pay-outs

What with all stock and share options having been bought out at a premium, plus whatever contract buy-outs are involved all the current Twitter senior execs will have seen their net worth increase substantially in the last 48hrs or so.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803515#Comment_119803515

Nah. She was history as soon as he took over.

Regards...jmcc

joseywhales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803958#Comment_119803958

This is it. The only companies I hated working for were the ones where there was a pressure to engage in the company socially. A mature culture will leave it's engineers alone, let them do their job, clock in clock out, collect their paycheck. We are not here to have an opinion on social issues.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119804293#Comment_119804293

In any case, it's a decision that's entirely up to the employee in question. Personal responsibility dictates that if someone's distaste for any liberal-leaning corporate culture was that pronounced and that aggravating - well, individualism then says: go find a new job. Obviously there are mitigating factors with anyone's work situation; everyone's different. But swallowing a little deference to pronouns, inclusivity - or whatever else is the supposed Fall of Civilisation - is a small ask rarely overlapping. As you say: as long as they let the engineers and devs do the work asked of them - so what? How many in Twitter even care about St. Musk freeing them from those liberal shackles? Probably just that one SRE in the office, the quiet one nobody talks to or likes anyway 🤣

I worked for one of the major gambling companies, despite having severe reservations about the morality of the tech. we were building. Still do. The pay was good, the people in my orbit were good skins (with a whole range of hair colours), and so on. I was happy with the due diligence they did perform to counter addiction - but ultimately I could live with the cognitive dissonance. I've also worked for openly "liberal" American corporations, via the US office, and the few Trump supporters I knew of didn't spontaneously combust with the open political culture on show. But neither company forced employees to engage socially, politically or ideologically - it was always opt-in, always easily ignored. Which is often the point of this: don't like liberal culture? Then don't engage with it.

Cordell

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Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119803958#Comment_119803958

Oh right, so you've gone from "you don't know engineers, to "silly generalisations"

Some shift there 😂

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805007#Comment_119805007

Uh, I don't think that's the intellectual Gotcha you believe it is.

You're the one who thinks Twitter's engineers are oppressed souls under the thumb of blue-haired ones, now cheering Musk's sink like it's DeGaulle entering Paris.

Hey, maybe you are that SRE I'm thinking of. Would answer a lot.

Glaceon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119804459#Comment_119804459

I once worked for a company that was taken over by one of these types. Suddenly we found that if we didn't socially engage, we were literally named and shamed for it. Absolutely rotten company, all but one of the original staff members left.

joseywhales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805034#Comment_119805034

Yeah, I absolutely despise that. Or the CEOs with a god complex from a decade of arse licking. Suddenly he is talking about meta physics in an all hands meeting.

Note for everyone: being an expert in one specialized area =/= competency in all of human philosophy

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119804208#Comment_119804208

She was one of his main targets.

After all she was instrumental in getting the Donald banned and constantly bad mouthing Musk.

Ridiculous that her incompetence will be rewarded with a huge payout.

MisterAnarchy

Look at the enthuasism on her face, she knew what was coming

https://twitter.com/marcvidal/status/1585895801443831808/photo/1

Trump is happy that "Twitter is now in sane hands".

Twitter "will no longer be run by Radical Left Lunatics and Maniacs that truly hate our country"

Starfire20

musk is just a hype man.

nothing will fundamentally change as musk needs to make a profit so as to not tank his investment.

I don't use twitter or instagram, but if you look up the Top 50 most followed accounts on both, they're all pretty inoffensive - celebs, footballers, news sites, musicians. But the numbers of instagram followers massively dwarf twitter followers.

Musk just bought a knife to a gun fight. (See what I did there?)

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805633#Comment_119805633

I'm not up on what the ykids are using, but I'm aware that the arse has fallen out of Facebook, but Meta owns Instagram as well, am I right?

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805608#Comment_119805608

They said Musk taking over would be a disaster. Now it's happened they're spinning it as a positive in terms of the value of the sale.

People (on all sides) are really pathetic creatures when you think about it.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805905#Comment_119805905

Meta does own Instagram (and WhatsApp), but they might have shot the arse off that too: Instagram now basically preferences "reels", ie short videos in an attempt to mimic TikTok. The algorithm now actively hides posts, even from those you directly follow, so many small to medium artists and creatives have found their presence diminish to the point of nonexistence. Christ even as I post this Instagram just threw a notification at me about "most watched reels in Ireland".

Here's a photographer I follow lamenting the ludicrously disparity between Instagram and the same photo posted on Twitter, as it happens. This would be a business account too, so an important arm of this photographer's career. Much fewer followers but more engagement. I daresay if a better artists/creatives sharing app came about it might kill Instagram quick enough.

My wife part times illustration work and while Instagram wasn't a focus or priority, she noticed her work plummeting from about 1000 likes per post, to about 100. I can't imagine how bad that'd affect someone actively monetising their account. You have this ludicrous scenario where artists make a video of their still image cos technically that's more important to the algorithm.

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805608#Comment_119805608

Thats a spin if there ever was one. Musk set out to buy twitter and was blocked at every avenue. So he withdrew his offer which made shareholders panic , thus a lawsuit was filed. He laid out his terms and got the deal done. He wanted twitter and in the end he got twitter. The only people embarrassed was Parag and whoever ese was escorted out of the building. And make no mistake about it , Parag and especially Vidday were vehemently against Musk owing twitter.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/14/elon-musk-not-sure-hell-be-able-to-buy-twitter.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/business/musk-twitter-buyout-what-we-know.html

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806439#Comment_119806439

What the shite are you talking about? Some of Musks initial offers were rejected, until he made his final offer which was then accepted.

After that Musk was the one trying to pull out of the deal by using excuses such as the number of bots on Twitter and accusing Twitter of not being truthful about their figures. Musk tried pulling out of the deal and then trying to renegotiate the price.

This was literally going to court because Twitter's shareholders were trying to enforce the contract Musk agreed to and make him buy Twitter for the agreed price. The only reason the court case didn't go ahead is because, as almost all legal experts pointed out, Musk was sure to lose. So Musk proceeded with the purchase even though, again by all expect accounts, he's buying it at a ridiculous price.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119805946#Comment_119805946

It was only a pump and dump they said, Musk would never buy it they said.

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806549#Comment_119806549

The original cost was 44B , he bought it for 44b. Only a fool would believe he was forced to pay 44B for something he doesn't want. He has the best lawyers available to mankind. If he wanted out he would have gotten out, simple as that. The man is/was obsessed about buying Twitter and he is clearly ecstatic now that he owns it. You believe what the liberal media tells you believe.

You've been here since 2008. I bet you never made one negative post about Musk until he tried to buy Twitter. Prove me wrong.

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806564#Comment_119806564

Exactly and @Penn argued this theory ad nauseum which is why anything he says regarding Musk should be viewed as an ultra defensive coping mechanism.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806577#Comment_119806577

His legal team sent Twitter a letter saying he was pulling out of the deal. Twitter sued him. A court case was scheduled.

Why would Musk try to pull out of the deal (firstly by using the level of bots on the site as a reason, then trying to use revelations from a whistleblower), let the case get a week or two from trial, and then proceed with the deal for the same price anyway? And regardless of how much money he could throw at his lawyers, they were already losing motions and cases they had put forth to the judge pre-trial, and most legal experts agreed he was likely to lose.

As for thinking it was just a pump and dump scheme, yeah, I did at the start when he had only bought a percentage of shares. I was wrong. Have I commented about Musk before the Twitter thing? I'm not sure. The Boards search function is sh*te so can't really search, but not sure what you think it does or doesn't prove. The most I ever really paid attention to him before is all the cameos in TV and films he does, and naming his child that stupid name.

But as for your comment about "ultra defensive coping mechanism". I'm still on Twitter. I'll still keep using it as I always have, at least for the foreseeable.

You're trying to portray me as something I'm not, and trying to spout bullsh*t about "Liberal media" and the like.

So how about we leave the personal stuff aside, and break this down to it's simplest form; Was Twitter suing Musk to force him to complete the agreed contract and make sure he bought Twitter for the agreed price?

MisterAnarchy

https://knowyourmeme.com/news/two-dudes-pretending-to-be-fired-twitter-employees-pull-off-one-of-the-best-ligma-jokes-of-all-time

As expected from Elon Musk's now completed purchase of Twitter, there have been a lot of layoffs so far.

Apparently knowing that this was going to happen, two guys who live near the Twitter headquarters decided to go out walking around with boxes of props, baiting and trolling the surrounding journalists to ask them about their status.

After saying that they were fired developers and holding up Michelle Obama's 2018 book Becoming for dramatic effect, the duo supplied their names as "Rahul Ligma" and "Daniel Johnson," which the media ran with.

😁

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806439#Comment_119806439

You know he's not going to go out with you?

Twitter with musk will just end up being the worlds biggest and worst WhatsApp group that you have to stick on mute.

xxxxxxl

hahaha Private company does what private company does. In other news water is wet. If it goes more of a centre rout I may use it.

Quantum Erasure

Deleted my account a couple months ago, signed up again just so I could scroll through tweets without getting a "please sign up" pop-up.

AndrewJRenko

Will be interesting to see how he plans to cover the debt repayments

https://twitter.com/cmaccaba/status/1585914462951047168?s=46&t=Yr6hBs7PMMq0IzWlW1JZKQ

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806935#Comment_119806935

Now that is interesting. Could this all be some elaborate tax scam ?

Already stories coming out about Apple's increasing fees for in app stuff and how Musk is going to end up in a collision course with them. 30% of revenue going to Apple is an awful lot.

If his influence can somehow go against it successfully, like Epic tried to, that would be a good thing. Although I suspect a lot of people will start defending Apple's fees if Musk fights them.

Yurt2

Running a giant social media giant and turning a buck on it is pretty far from the ambit of Musk's competencies.

My suspicion is that he's let his ego get the better of him and will run the sh*tshow into the ground. Which would be a net good tbh, Twitter is a toxic platform that encourages political partisans and the barking mad to try to tear down all that is good in the world.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807069#Comment_119807069

oh I would love the internet to go back to MIRC days Twitter is corporate bull ****.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806928#Comment_119806928

I recently installed a Chrome Extension that deleted that pop up. It's just some HTML and CSS that blocks further scrolling, easily removed by an extension. Don't have it in front of me though as I'm on mobile. Means I remain without an account.

Use of the n-word has increased 500% since the takeover.

Wonderful to once again have a thriving marketplace of intellectual ideas being exchanged in the town square.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807124#Comment_119807124

Jesus. Depressing but also unsurprising. Something something owning the libs?

This is 18 years old now (oof) yet the web-comic Penny Arcade nailed a core tenet of social media behaviour before Social Media even existed.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807069#Comment_119807069

What are Musk’s competencies?

https://twitter.com/jessicalburbank/status/1586013006923603969?s=46&t=0da9R40Esu4aJpd_MJ5jfQ

Timberrrrrrrr

https://bsky.app/

Has Musk been played?

https://twitter.com/PeaceIsEarned/status/1585993416499900416?t=4aiSRCW4bg7P08-NpNut4g&s=09

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807124#Comment_119807124

To some people, 'freedom of speech' means the freedom to say 'nígger'. That's how base they are. If Musk wants his investment to pay off, he's going to need to have the platform making money, and that means having advertisers. And big advertisers are risk averse. If Twitter becomes free speech in the way 4Chan is free speech, then advertisers are going to walk. So, if Must wants the venture to pay, he's still going to need to have content guidelines in place.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119808101#Comment_119808101

But this is just the web3 protocol he has been working on for awhile?

I don't see this resolving the issues people have with twitter. I don't think most care about web3 decentralisation.