70 Burglaries!

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118992139#Comment_118992139

Reality would suggest differently.

Traveller men make up more than 10% and Traveller women make up 22% of the adult prison population. The total Traveller population only constitutes 0.7% of the population

sam t smith

Wow. Travellers seem to be far more prone to engage in criminality compared to the rest of the population.

gibgodsman

Funny one on this, myself and the partner we were walking home 2nd April around 10pm from her Parents, we walk past her Grandads house on the way and, the other half is very skiddish and paranoid about her Grandads as its been burgled twice in the past 6 years.

We notice a black car/jeep pulling into the entrance to the estate and drive slowly past his house, I thought nothing of it, but she was like nope lets wait a second here, the car then reverses very slowly and pulls up on the curb right outside her Grandads house, turning off his lights and just sitting there.

5 minutes goes by and she calls her Dad to just drive over, her Grandad wasn't home at the time, I could see one large size man in the car with a Meath beanie on but no one else, remember Dark and poorly lit area. Eventually her Grandad comes home from wherever he was and drives behind the car and into his drive way, then her Dad pulls up in his van directly behind the black car/jeep, to which point without its lights on, it speeds over the curb on to the main road and flys down it, a Guarda Van coming from the other way does a 180 and follows.

We check the house and nothing was done to it, 5 more minutes go by and the Guard comes back to the area and seems to be searching, we were then told the car, a Black Audi Jeep with a 161 D reg, obviously fake plates, was involved in 4 more burglaries tonight only 2 miles out the road in Wilkinstown.

Asks us for our details etc, I give them the description of the Driver as when he flew past me I got a very clear view of him, to the point I can actually tell he was the large one of the guys in the crash in this thread.

It took them nearly a month to catch these guys, who were so obvious at what they were doing, and only because they crashed. When the guards came to us that night you could see not one of them knew what they were actually doing, who sends out a single guy, in a massive Van, to search an area where Burglerys are occurring, and then are shocked when they get away.

Ubbquittious

I'm really surprised the car wasn't a black A4. The go-to scumbag car of choice.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118993109#Comment_118993109

interesting tail ,

did you know before the q7 they had a rs5 , then a kia stinger ?

These lads driving very high powered cars are tough to catch in a 1.7 hyundi desiel estate car, it takes a lot of time effort nd resources to actually catch them in the act, which is the best bet for conviction and jail time

First you got to ID the lads involved , usually via CCTV or information from inside the traveler community, they love to trade and information is just another thing to trade for them, bear in mind it might not be the exact same people in the car every time it goes out.

then you try to locate the vehicle. it'll be parked up in a 24 hr accessible carpark or on on street with easy access and no cctv away from the homes of the main people involved , city west hotel used o be a fav.

they like to do day time break ins because houses tend to be empty with people away working and its easier to move around for them in rush hour traffic, more cover , more risk for gardai in a chase or late night commercial robberies for the like of tools, smokes safes etc.

then you set up 24 hour surveillance on the vehicle, if you can get the resource manpower and cars to do so,

most likely they were seen in an area when a burglary just occurred and were spotted and chased from the area by local units , who then called in more resource who luckily happened to be available ie DCOB and Traffic units with cars capable of staying with it on the motorway network at high speeds , fortunately in this case the q7 shunted something and wasn't as quick as it should have been.

in this case the driver tried to lose pursuing units by going into towns at great risk to the public and gardai but the chopper was able to keep eyes on until they crashed out trying outside in the crowd at a shopping center.

im sure the first thing they said when arrested was i dont know who was driving, we were just out for a spin, then no comment, dna and fingerprints are of limited use with professional thieves like this so it will down to individual gardai stating what they saw and recognized from the day in question or cctv, only to be harangued and called liars and racists by the expensive and experienced defense teams of solicitors and barristers, the same defense teams who will no doubt secure high court bail for these men until the much delayed trial so that they can get back out robbing in the next high powered car they can buy or steal

Anyone who wants change should talk to their public reps , AGS cant do much more the the judiciary wont

TooTired123

We just have to accept that as a result of how badly Ireland treated the Travellers over all the years, they see this behaviour as their entitlement. The current predominant feeling in the country is that they are a marginalised misunderstood disadvantaged minority and it’s “unkind” to try to do anything about it.

Ham_Sandwich

Alot of these kids, and most of them are children still if you think about it, are groomed into crime by older criminals and have no hope for a normal life.

anplaya27

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118993871#Comment_118993871

Plenty of other minority communities were and are still treated badly by the Irish State. I belong to one that was described in 2017 by the Oireachtas as one of the most marginalised in the country. No excuse for their behaviour.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118993871#Comment_118993871

Predominant? Maybe with city dwellers who rarely deal with them. Down the country, which is most of the nation, you'll find few that sympathize with their supposed plight and for good reason too. Maybe I'm biased because I've had direct dealing with many of them and all of those dealing have been bad, but the "oppressed" traveller narrative seems to largely be pushed by middle class academic types, who want a victim to champion.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118993871#Comment_118993871

not true at all , the vast majority of the population have a different view of travellers than the media and NGO created narrative

Galwayguy35

Pavee Point and Martin Collins go very quiet when we all hear what the sacred ethnic minority are getting up to.

As long as the majority of them have their lifestyle funded by the rest of us they better get used to criticism when members of their community break the law.

gary550

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118993338#Comment_118993338

Nail on the head there mate, that's the sad reality of it. At the minute the only chance the cops have of nabbing them is in a planned operation like the other day.

Aside - wasn't a q7, it was an sq5. Fast, fast car in capable hands.

Cops operation the other day involved a garda golf r and a s3, realistically the only hope they'd catch fools in a powerful car is by chasing them in a powerful car. The general garda fleet of diesel econoboxes haven't a chance, they were tried a few times and the sq5 left them for dust.

Even having a traffic fleet equivalent to the uk with the likes of a 530, loaded up with kit it would still be an ask to keep up with a sq5, or a rs5 or a kia stinger.

My opinion on it would be high crime area's should have a fast car should the need to use it be there.

Madeoface

All on welfare, main suspect a 'family man', all get free legal aid. FFS.

Banana Republic.

sam t smith

Probably already planning the next spree.

boombang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118994590#Comment_118994590

Fully agree. I think the travellers as victims line is only believed by a minority but it is the only view one can articulate in any public setting if you're involved with public life in any way (journalists/politican/public servant). Strongly suspect the majority private view does not view this group as victims.

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119000867#Comment_119000867

There was a survey of Gardaí that pretty much confirms this.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-have-negative-view-of-travellers-survey-finds-1.4334274

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118994102#Comment_118994102

Less than 40% of the population live rural in Ireland so it's not most of the nation and urban homes are more commonly burgled. I know rural crime is a media darling and more of a fuss is made of it but urban homes are targeted a lot more so don't imagine that city and urban dwellers are championing any victims here. We've been dealing with it for decades.

macvin

These scum crisscrossed the border which elongated their spree.

But the gardai had them under surveillance early last week and possibly put a tracker on the vehicle and had virtually every route covered.

The gardai also have to be mindful that they cannot put innocent people at risk unlike the scum in the Audi, so that can affect a pursuit.

By having literally dozens of cars and air support in what seems to have been a very planned operation, these scumbags were caught.

Unfortunately, despite being caught red-handed, some joke of a judge gives 4 of them very easy bail and they are probably out on a burglary right now.

monkeybutter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118993958#Comment_118993958

Kerrymen?

Zebra3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118992109#Comment_118992109

It was FFFG and their mates in Labour in charge when those who covered up child rape were let off scot free. No need to deflect from those scumbags who aren't interested in law and order.

And that's before we even start on FF legitimising criminal money. I bet Gerry Hutch votes for them every time.

tabby aspreme

SF would let them keep going, but tax the proceeds

riddles

For individuals who are career criminals reoffending rates are very high. It suggests “doing time” is simply a side effect of the job.

The Garda Commissioner should be banging to the drum for not just his members but also for Joe public on how inept the law is in dealing with people who choose criminality as a way of life.

The so called minister for justice is beyond incompetent.

starkid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119012148#Comment_119012148

lol you might want to check up on Hutches and his mate the councillor links...and the family member of the other lad. obviously just links. in fairness a FG member is a distant relation of the penguin.

regardless of the above, if you think SF are the party of law and order you need your head examined...

Zebra3

Are you not aware of the fact that Gerry Hutch used a tax amnesty for criminals brought in by FF to wash money from armed robberies?

costacorta

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118987569#Comment_118987569

All unemployed and getting free legal aid !! Do the social welfare ever ask these wasters why they haven’t got a job by 25 ? Even 55

Quitelife

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-probe-after-prolific-burglary-gang-pictured-stealing-safe-from-south-dublin-home-in-broad-daylight-41644648.html

I see that large extended Burgulary gang are calling to the Donnybrook area bringing a bit of culture to South Dublin . All those lavish communion dresses & headstones have to be paid for.

Hope they call into RTE in Donnybrook where all their friends are " saying how their misunderstood etc"

mikethecop

Two members of prolific burglary gang at large, two others arrested following motorway chase - Independent.ie

back in action thanks to high court bail and the best of legal representation paid for by your good self's

Atlantic Dawn

Anyone on bail for burglary should be electronically tagged. Not much point in looking for facial recognition technology when we are not even using the basics.

Varik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119253383#Comment_119253383

Wouldn't limit to burglary.

Not like bail in Ireland is very high in general, and the lads here have no fear of the law so definitely wouldn't be flight risk.

The amounts are probably tiny in any case for anyone who'd be on legal aid.

mikethecop

Teen accused of carrying out burglaries across three counties gets bail despite garda objections (msn.com)

well this is clever isnt it , this judge is going to contribute directly to even more innocent people being victims of crime

what is the fcuking point ?????