How does Israel Get way with this

Housefree

https://youtu.be/KFNtx9yR3JU

A snapshot of Apartheid

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119057865#Comment_119057865

It’s nutsville, and these are so called keepers of the peace ? No wonder…

Weepsie

And they're trying to claim it wasn't them

Charrychar

If only John Hume was alive now, I’d love to hear his input on current events unfolding in Israel.

eeepaulo

They are happening in occupied Palestine, not israel, don't let the truth get in the way of your posting though

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060147#Comment_119060147

This may be a surprise to you but Israel existed for nearly all of John Hume's life.

I'm sure he gave a speech or dozen about it in the House of commons.

More than that, probably not much.

He was John Hume.

Odhinn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119059206#Comment_119059206

And, as I've said, the Palestinians under occupation have no voice in Israeli politics, or even civil law. Thus no Hume like figure could emerge. If anyone needs a 'peace figure' it's Israel.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060147#Comment_119060147

Have your dreamy rosy John Hume tell you where Jenin is on a map.

Overheal

“After initially blaming Palestinian gunmen, the military said Thursday it was examining the possibility one of its soldiers was responsible.” (Washington Post)

https://fb.watch/c-uTF5LuuO/

eeepaulo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060928#Comment_119060928

After watching the video and listening to the testimony of 2 accredited journalists you'd have to be either disingenuous or stupid to believe what the israeli occupying forces said immediately after the incident. Total lies as usual published as an alternative view point.

Bobtheman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058244626/how-does-israel-get-way-with-this

We do with China? Saudi Arabia?

No we don't!?!

Get a grip man. We trade with worse.

The only reason we are reacting strongly to Ukraine is because its in Europe.

Amazing the focus on Israel.

Odhinn

Meanwhile, the colonisation of the West Bank continues

The government is promoting 4,500 housing units in the settlements

https://peacenow.org.il/en/the-government-is-promoting-4500-housing-units-in-the-settlements

Sand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119059206#Comment_119059206

I used to believe what you do. That the Palestinians had lost past military conflicts, are losing a military conflict and would continue to lose future military conflicts. Therefore the only viable solution for the Palestinians was a negotiated settlement with the Israelis. I was functionally pro-Israeli because I viewed the Palestinians as irrationally pursuing violence against their own interests. However, there is an issue with the comparison between Hume, Northern Ireland and the British and the Israeli-Palestinian "conflict". The British - largely the English - viewed Northern Ireland as being an Imperial holdover not much different to possessions in Africa or Asia. It was part of the past, not the future. They were willing to bargain it away for peace.

The Israelis view Palestinian people as a temporary obstacle to the ongoing expansion of the Israeli state. Something to be solved, not bargained with. In the greater Israel they dream of, the Palestinians have no future. Year by year, cut by cut, atrocity by atrocity the aim of the Israelis is to slowly strangle the Palestinian people and take over their lands. Perhaps some powerless remnant will be allowed to exist penned in on reservations, but that is it.

The Palestinians simply cannot negotiate with that. However hopeless a military struggle might seem it at least offers the chance of survival.

What we in "the west" need to do is place Israel under total economic, diplomatic and cultural blockade. If we don't, then we are implicitly supporting the Israelis.

Housefree

Isn't it strange that a very active Zionist shill

https://www.boards.ie/profile/comments/Bayonet

Has gone silent, after all their claims: discrediting, obfuscation and denial over the assassination of a journalist and their general Israeli propaganda and support of the apartheid regime

Overheal

Israel now to investigate itself for how badly it handled the funeral

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/15/israel-shireen-abu-akleh-pallbearers-funeral/

Charrychar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119064071#Comment_119064071

I understand your point but Israel is one America’s greatest allies, they do lots of dirty work for the USA across the Middle East, so what chance do palestinians have when Israel not only receives billions of dollars as well as logistical and moral support from the USA.

If you’re friends with the USA you can do whatever you want, the only option for Palestinians is peaceful protest.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069268#Comment_119069268

Still shilling "peaceful protest" whilst acknowledging it'll do nothing. Only force will stop the Palestinians from being wiped out. How did passively going with the flow peacefully work out for the Jewish people in 1939-45??

Housefree

We need Russia level sanctions against the Apartheid State of Israel.

Fandymo

Quite noticeable that all of the shills have disappeared now that the truth is coming out.

Charrychar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069444#Comment_119069444

The Palestinians must not resort to more terrorism, the time has now come for them to move on.

There can be no justification for terrorism, even a child knows that.

Palestine is by and large disputed territory just like Northern Ireland was claimed by the Irish state up until 1998, it does not justify terrorism, the Palestinians need to move on just like we did. Northern Ireland was a very touchy subject once upon a time in Ireland you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the Republic of Ireland who believed Britain had any right to rule it, nowadays people couldn’t care less. The same thing will happen in Palestine.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119070955#Comment_119070955

the palestinians must do whatever they can to stop ethnic cleansing, if that is violence then that is what needs to happen.

the apartheid state in northern ireland was overthrown thanks to the PIRA, so there is no real comparison between both conflicts as britain has agreed to accept reunification of ireland via a democratic mandate, whereas israel wants as much land as it can get hold of.

the strategic reasons for britain stealing northern ireland in the first place and allowing the creation of one of the most apartheid states in the world at it's peak more or less died a few decades ago with the death of industries.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119070955#Comment_119070955

There is absolutely no dispute. There are legal, internationally recognized, borders which Israel constantly, and consistently, violate. Israel are the terrorists here. Israel are the ones encroaching on Palestinian land. Israel are the once ethnically cleansing Palestine.

Israel are the dictionary definition of terrorists

terrorism

/ˈtɛrərɪzəm/

1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Charrychar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119071205#Comment_119071205

That definition could apply to anyone.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119071386#Comment_119071386

Yes, anyone who decides to illegally expand their borders, murdering and slaughtering the men, women and children of their neighbors' as they go

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069268#Comment_119069268

Because peaceful protest alone won't achieve anything for Palestine. And I suppose that the Palestinians (some of them anyway) reckon that violent action will, at least, hurt Israel in the way that Israel hurts them.

Israel would love the Palestinians to just engage in peaceful protest, because they'll simply ignore it and continue to expand into their lands until eventually the Palestinians are completely eliminated from the area. As Sand has said above, the Palestinians have "no future" in Israel's eventual plans and Israel isn't interested in any real kind of compromise. This will continue to be the case as long as they enjoy sugar daddy America vetoing every UN resolution that's drawn up against Israel's illegal activities.

So while it's fair to say that Palestine are in a losing war at present, they don't really have any other options open to them at the moment and they won't until the international community act to try and bring about a two state solution in a firm and meaningful way.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119071205#Comment_119071205

But it is legal, an Israeli court decided it was...

Fandymo

When you think the scum cannot possibly get any scummier.

political analyst

The Israeli authorities have acknowledged the possibility that an Israeli soldier who returned fire after being shot at by Palestinian militants hit Shireen by mistake.

The Palestinian Authority has no right to lecture about freedom of the press.

https://worldisraelnews.com/selective-outrage-does-the-west-really-care-about-the-slain-al-jazeera-journalist-analysis/

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119075231#Comment_119075231

it's quite clear the IDF shot her and deliberately so, there was no mistake here.

Mr_Jacko

Good afternoon to everyone except supporters of Apartheid Israel!