Mbappé stays

SlickRic

This is massive, and I think deserves a thread.

Reported €300m singing on fee, and €100m a year after tax in wages, plus a huge say in the running of the club.

Is this the breaking point?

In what world does this follow any sort of rules? Surely it's just openly making a farce of the game and its rules?

trashcan

At some point surely top level football is going to eat itself ? How much longer can these clubs keep up this insane level of spending ?

marklazarcovic

and a tiny stadium? no ffp whatsoever

thebaz

Obscene - for what - to canter to ther Domestic league unopposed - and then hopefully falter again to proper teams in the Champions league - really are a proper plastic team, a rich one.

NIMAN

Didn't see this coming. Knew he had been offered crazy money to stay at PSG, a signing on fee despite already playing for them, so in effect just a bribe.

But Madrid seem to have matched that fee, but still wasn't enough. This will be a major embarrassment for Madrid. They had banked the house on getting mbappe, to be the leading light for the coming years, with a resplendid new stadium. They haven't even spent that much in the last 3 seasons or so, probably so they could afford to pay him.

But now what? Had they known that, they might have gone all out to get Haaland. But there is a dearth of real world class talent out there at present. Take out mbappe and Haaland and who else is there that's really worth pushing the boat out for?

As mentioned, it has been reported that mbappe will get more of a say in the running of the club. This is a worrying sign of the way the top stars are so much in control now.

As for football eating itself. In terms of psg it won't. These state clubs have limitless funds. They won't go bust. But its times like this you need the governing body to be standing up and asking how clubs are still not breaking ffp rules? They must be.

Psg will eventually get the CL they covet so much. They just need that little bit of luck.

Detailed piece on the saga by Balague

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61522315

POKERKING

I think its great Real Madrid not having things their own way. He is a young french guy playing for the best team in france earning boatloads. Cant really blame him. Not much difference between the two teams currently on the pitch either. Probably go there in a few years time, loads of time left in his career for that.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119094652#Comment_119094652

It'd be very interesting to hear what Benzema thinks of this. I would imagine had Mbappe pegged to step up to fill his boots at both Real and France.

~Rebel~

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119095202#Comment_119095202

Whatever about Benzema, I'd say Vinicius Jr is quietly over the bloody moon!

Weepsie

Maybe mbappe having a say in running the club is good as Leonardo is responsible for repeat failures as he keeps signing square pegs for round holes and sacking managers.

Maybe mbappe says to them get me a stable defence and midfield and dump neymar and Messi.

Maybe not, but the club, outwardly anyway, isn't being run all that well

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119095310#Comment_119095310

The club is run horribly badly from a sporting point of view alright, but the answer doesn't feel like throwing all administrative/recruitment control to a 23 year old player.

I'm really interested to see what happens with them once the Qatar World Cup is over though. Unlike the other political sportswashing enterprises, it could be argued that the PSG project had a targeted end date - the WC itself. Could this be the last big move to keep them sparkly in the public eye before the WC next year? Would've looked bad for them to be seen to fall apart right on the cusp of their big event, whereas now they can officially boast having Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe, 3 of footballs biggest names, representing Qatar (and their own nations) at the showpiece.

But is there a point to keeping this going? As has been said, they spend about many times more than they need to dominate domestically, and their galactico plan doesn't actually help them win the CL, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see recruitment cut waaaay back after next season - just enough to still be dominant at home and have a shout in Europe.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://twitter.com/LaurensJulien/status/1528019791482605570

Going from Leonardo to Luis Campos would be a massive upgrade. For those who aren't familiar with him:

https://twitter.com/bet365/status/1396824580774313987

y0ssar1an22

i cant find anything really about his control, but uefa need to sort ffp based on la liga's statement:

“It is scandalous that a club like PSG, which last season reported losses of more than 220 million euros after accumulating losses of more than 700 million euros in prior seasons (while reporting sponsorship income at doubtful valuation), with a squad cost around 650 million for this season, can close such an agreement, while those clubs that could afford the hiring of the player without seeing their wage bill compromised, are left without being able to sign him.

“LaLiga will file a complaint against PSG before UEFA, the French administrative and fiscal authorities and European Union authorities to continue to defend the economic ecosystem of European football and its sustainability.”

“This kind of behaviour led by Al-Khelaifi, president of PSG, and member of the UEFA Executive Committee and president of ECA, endangers European football on the same level as the European Super League.”

players have already cottoned on that its financially beneficial to run down their contracts, and it'll happen more and more. prob in a few years you have a player for 3 years and away they go.

i like that mbabbe also thanks....“I would like to thank the President, Nasser Al-Khelaïfi, for his trust, his understanding and his patience.

i'm sure you would like to thank him. i dont know if he did previously, but now he can never speak to human rights/racism/slavery again.

retalivity

Bit rich for la liga to be complaining...

Those numbers are insane, €2m a week after tax, and a €300m golden handshake? Never mind about mbappe having a say in running PSG, he could now go and buy Monaco, Lille or Nice and run them himself.

y0ssar1an22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119095678#Comment_119095678

the la liga president has tried to reign in the craziness as much as possible in his jurisdiction. hence barce having a fire sale last summer.

the PL needs a similar leader that wont kowtow to states (and bureaucrats that happily take the money). i'm not talking (specifically) about states with horrific human rights violations. no country/state should be allowed own a sports team.

Agent Coulson

143 days later Mbappe wants out!

https://twitter.com/LaurensJulien/status/1579860230569357312?s=20&t=Mxf82Z3CnCTvPSg-Y3LhxA

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1579909046009618432?s=20&t=Mxf82Z3CnCTvPSg-Y3LhxA

NIMAN

Wouldn't it be funny if Madrid let him rot at psg now, and turn their attention to Haaland in maybe 2 or 3 years.

Agent Coulson

Reports in the French media today that Mbappe's 3 year contract at PSG is worth €630m gross.

That includes 3 loyalty payments of €70m year one €80m year two and €90m year three and a €180m signing on bouns paid over the three years.

So €200m in wages and €420m bounses for staying the three years.

That works out at €4m a week gross if he stays the full 3 years.

And he wants out!

yourdeadwright

He will never leave PSG , no other club will give him his wage plus all his other demands, they just wont do it,

City or Newcastle ae not going to give him what he wants ,

Ramasun

Paris is a beautiful city. He's French. He can earn good money. Sounds fine to me.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119787811#Comment_119787811

Not if he's not happy, it's not.

Footballers want success, as well as money. If he doesn't win the CL with PSG, he will start looking at clubs who can get him that trophy. Of course most can't afford him, but he might be willing to reduce his demands if he wants away from PSG.

Ramasun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119787962#Comment_119787962

PSG are a successful team and the best funded team in France. There's a good chance he could win the league this year. Winning the CL isn't guaranteed with any team but PSG have as much chance as any other team that can afford him.

NIMAN

He's been with them for a few years now. They came close but haven't won it. If they don't win it while he is in his current contract, he will look elsewhere to try to win it.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119788044#Comment_119788044

They don't really though.. the difference in competitive level from the league to the CL keeps catching them out. They play in a way that smashes through a league in which they spend more than the rest combined, but which isn't as consistently effective against higher quality.

Having to field Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe is just asking for trouble against another team with high quality who also actually work hard. They're a club who need to take a step back to step forward again, with less focus on marketing talismans and more focus on building an actual team. But, given that the whole thing largely exists as an exercise in branding, that's not so likely to happen... they didn't sign Messi to make the team better, for instance, they signed him to further raise the Qatar profile in the run up to the world cup.

Ramasun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119788101#Comment_119788101

All teams wearing sponsorship are a branding exercise for their sponsors. Sky Sports branded an entire league giving a competitive advantage and inflating wages.

A European Super League like the NFL is the alternative.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119788481#Comment_119788481

What’s your point? There’s nothing wrong with sponsorship or branding at a football club. The difference is PSGs actual football team - the names of the 11 lads out on the pitch - is built as an excercise in branding. It’s like one of those ‘best 11 of the year’ lists that media outlets throw out at seasons end, which recognises great players rather than actually trying to name a functioning team. Just like those list-teams, that PSG side is always hopelessly unbalanced.

Ramasun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789481#Comment_119789481

OK, the same can be said for any team.

What is your point?

Mr.Nice Guy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119788101#Comment_119788101

They didn't smash their way through the league in 2021; Lille beat them to the title. They didn't in 2017 either; Monaco, with Mbappe, beat them (and also reached the last 4 of the CL). PSG reached the final under Tuchel in 2020, the same year Lyon reached the last 4 (knocking out Man City in the process). Blaming their failures on the domestic front is just excusing their own bottle-jobs. What's caught them out has been a poor mentality in moments of adversity.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789489#Comment_119789489

No, most teams try to build a balanced unit of players who will balance each other’s strengths and weaknesses… PSG are pretty unique. About the closest comparison was Madrid in their Galactico phase yeeears ago, but even they had much of an eye towards still having a functioning reasonably balanced team.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789553#Comment_119789553

This is very true - I suppose my point isn’t that France is weak, but rather that the strength of the league at times can mask their deficiencies in balance and mentality. In the years you mention, their dysfunctional team of stars wasn’t able to take care of much more affordably assembled, but actually thoughtfully run and well balanced sides.

His attitude stinks.

That game where he just gave up his run when he didn't receive a pass. Ffs.