Brawl breaks out at Dublin Airport

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117446#Comment_119117446

Ah yes Tuam.

Foxhound38

It's absolutely ridiculous that these people are treated with kid gloves. If any prospective politician or party called to my door and promised to clamp down hard on traveller misbehaviour - immediate Tulsa investigations and parental penalties for taking kids out of school without a qualification (up to and including taking the kids off them if they fail to send them to school - even if it takes a Blbattalion of gardai to do it), tax audits on their income streams, CAB confiscations when it can be shown something was purchased with the proceeds of crime, actual sentences for assault and burglary - I would vote for them in a heartbeat.

The political establishment is completely out of step with the public on this one. 99% of people have no interest in this "hug a traveller" bullshyte that's been pushed for the last decade or so. We just want them to behave themselves, raise their kids properly, pay tax and contribute in some sort of positive way, clean up after themselves, follow the same laws we have to and stop battering each other and our elderly relatives. It's in no way a lot to ask and their own lives (certainly that of their women and kids) might actually improve with doing it.

eltoorock

40 minutes for the guards to arrive in numbers; Lugs Brannigan would have sorted that mob in 40 seconds.

Potential-Monke

40 minutes for the right number of them to ensure they don't offend anyone while safely arresting this poor misunderstood individuals. Lugs would have battered the crap out of them, and then battered the crap out of anyone who dared record it. Different times unfortunately. Some of it badly missed. Some people will only ever understand a box.

laoisgem

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119111889#Comment_119111889

People can be appalled by this incident but also be horrified by what happened in Texas, to compare the two is utterly ridiculous. To call it a non invent, you should be ashamed of yourself!

Potential-Monke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119119010#Comment_119119010

Think they meant non-event in respect to Ireland. Which it is. Horrible and all. But has no effect on Ireland, so a non-event in relation to this incident and the lack of media coverage compared to the shooting in Texas. But we already know RTE are too afraid to call a traveller a traveller so easier to report on something that won't offend anyone in this country.

billyhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119119043#Comment_119119043

It's the media in general television, print and radio. The country's gone too pc.

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119115808#Comment_119115808

And they’re named when they win a ‘discrimination’ case.

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118049#Comment_119118049

Plus the disgusting animal cruelty.

Dyr

A couple of police dogs would have sorted this out, right sharp. They're like garlic to a vampire for these lads.

thefallingman

the gardai are afraid of their lives of these people and avoid them at all costs, same as the junkies openly selling smack beside the ccj in dublin, the gardai just walk past

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119117200#Comment_119117200

Heil!

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119114115#Comment_119114115

travellers have the right to bring service ponys on flights

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118901#Comment_119118901

Some people will only ever understand a box.

Mickey-D has a box. Should have sent him over with it.

(The one he used to stand on for the Presidential debate on the telly that time.)

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119120651#Comment_119120651

Dyr like dags?

Foxhound38

That's less a gardai problem and more of a shyte judges problem. Why would a guard bother their hole cuffing some smackhead, dragging them into the squad car with them howling abuse and spitting at them the whole way, have to deal with them purposely sh1tting themselves in the squadcar, and write up all that paperwork only for the eejit of a judge to immediately throw out the case on account of the fact that Johnny the skanger had a terrible upbringing, has 15 kids that he never sees and was once a talented footballer. I don't blame the gardai for not wasting their time and patience with it.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119120795#Comment_119120795

Emotional support ponies.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119120902#Comment_119120902

Why would be bother doing it?

Because that the job he is paid to do.

It isn't his job to decide on sentencing. If he wants to do that, he needs to become a judge

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119120902#Comment_119120902

With an attitude like this it's no wonder we're fooked.

Paid members of the Gardai don't get to pick and choose what laws they uphold and enforce.

How the fook can society hope to be in any way harmonious thinking otherwise?

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119120729#Comment_119120729

And herein lies the problem. If afraid, get the fook out (or get sacked) and let people who are not afraid do the job of upholding our laws.

thefallingman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119120902#Comment_119120902

i do agree with this but the problem is if the gardai turn a blind eye what hope do we have, the person they ignored could then attack someone or worse

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119121044#Comment_119121044

I know three ex Guards who threw in the towel and a huge part of it was because of getting increasingly frustrated and disheartened when cases went to court, often after many months of work to nab bastards like this, build a case, get a guilty verdict, only for the judge to let them walk free, or hand down a slap on the wrist.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119121082#Comment_119121082

That's completely understandable Wibbs.

What I couldn't condone is a guard who stays in the job, collecting the salary, but not bothering to do that job.

Because at the end of the day, it is their job to protect the public by enforcing laws. Regardless of whether the perpetrator is a first-time offender or someone who does it every day

If a teacher has a class of students who don't bother doing their work, the teacher still has to try. They can't just decide to rock into the classroom every day with a mug of tea and a paper and tell the students not to bother (even though probably a few do that)

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119121082#Comment_119121082

Yes, I have no doubt. Our courts and sentencing and how we respond to and deal with crime and law breakers has always been a huge issue. Some the stuff you read would make your blood boil.

It really is slickening when you think of all the effort and hard work and passion and commitment and fortitude you see from AGS, only for some asshole judge to piss all over this, and show nothing but contempt for AGS and society, when handing down disgustingly lenient and inappropriate sentences

petronius

How come only one was arrested?

there seemed to be more involved in very violent behaviour.

"Drink fuelled" is not an excuse, they should be taken to a drunk tank to cool down - and no way they should be allowed to board flights after such behaviour.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119121088#Comment_119121088

Some people find it easier to just to go with the flow, climb the ladder etc than think too much about what they're doing, or not doing.

We see what happens to Garda whistleblowers, why bother?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119121443#Comment_119121443

There's a fair spectrum between sticking your neck out as a whistleblower and just bothering your arse to do the job you are collecting a salary for

tonium22

Maybe if country people stopped flytipping on the halting sites

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119121443#Comment_119121443

If the troublemakers are on their way back to the UK, then surely good community policing would be taking every step possible to ensure that they catch their return flight? 😋

purplepanda

I arrived by train from Waterford & got to the airport around 6PM, I didn't see any commotion & went upstairs for tea which must have been when the trouble started down below. I went though security just past 7PM & still didn't notice anything.

Went through the duty free shops area & I was upstairs in the bar opposite Burger King maybe 7.45PM or later when 30 Guards & Airport security suddenly arrived & removed 3 persons. They started giving verbal at some of the security for being English, & giving a lot of abuse, I assume they were removed from the airport premises. I could tell the Guards / Security were angry to put it mildly, some tried to get at those giving them abuse & were restrained by their colleagues. Female security staff were also abused.

Saw the delayed flight still at the gate sometime past 9.30, I was on the 21.55 to Grimstead. We had a few, travellers I believe, on our flight, young teenage girls & their mams & aunts, trying to sing badly & some Eastern European lads joining on. Good natured enough so you had to laugh.

I know some decent traveller families, kids gone university & decent parents, so I don't like to judge everyone one of them. Still you have to be on alert when the travellers are around in large numbers.