Probation terminated - legal advise

chrisfroome

I am just looking for some legal advise here. To cut a long story short, I started a job within credit control in January. It took a good while to go through the interview process and start with the company and I rejected 2 other job offers along the way. In highsight, that was a big mistake.

The first 2 months went excellent but I noticed a change in my managers attitude during the 3rd month - hardening of views on certain issues, nit-picking on not coming to agreements with certain colleagues. I was the first person to work in the credit control department for the company and I don't want to give myself a big head but was successful within the credit control part of things.

However one day, I got a Slack message that we were going to have a 3 month probationary meeting with HR the next day last month. It was like a "show trial" and the evidence against me was of bs reasons of not getting on with some colleagues and accusing a manager of doing something but no evidence was proved. On the job itself, both HR and the manager agreed that there were no problems. I just was not "connecting with people which I think is complete bs. However looking back, I should have seen this coming from a mile out.

Is there any legal recourse for this when on probation? I am very embarassed about it. The company have apologized and given me a reference but this does not get me back working or provide me an income. Any questions, please ask.

ohnonotgmail

Unless you can prove some sort of discrimination on one of the 9 grounds I think you are out of luck. They can let you go for any non-discrimination reason during your probation period.

bucketybuck

Why has your story changed from when you posted this thread last month?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058240854/3-month-probation-review-terminated/p1

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119122129#Comment_119122129

I thought it sounded somewhat familiar.

chrisfroome

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119122129#Comment_119122129

God you are a busy man with nothing to do to keep involved with peoples threads!

Of course it is familiar if you read the damn other thread in full.

By the way, I got another similar position and gave my references. No problem. So much for your "advise" You are not by any chance part of the secret police?

DFB-D

Possibly look at wrongful dismissal as the dismissal does not appear to be for performance reasons and may not have followed the companies own procedures (something to check)

But it is not an easy case to prove, needs to be brought to the courts rather than the WRC and ultimately will not result in much compensation.

Might be best to focus on finding a new role?

Princess Calla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119122861#Comment_119122861

I'm kinda seeing the company's view that "you don't connect well with others"

It's perfectly normal to remember previous threads.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119122861#Comment_119122861

Why has your story already now changed from the OP of this thread, never mind the thread from just a month ago?

lawred2

If my contract was terminated during probation, with or without just cause, I'd be away without looking back. If they let me go with just cause then I'd be only too happy to take my shame elsewhere but, let me go without just cause, well then I'd be only too happy to have dodged the bullet early on.

Legal advice?

Just move on.

chrisfroome

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119123461#Comment_119123461

What are you getting at. You don't even know me!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119123585#Comment_119123585

I won't even answer that bullshit comment. I will leave it at that

Princess Calla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119126443#Comment_119126443

You're right I don't know you but you are coming across fairly aggressive.

Your abruptness at simple questions (when you have the time to pause and reflect on an answer) I can only imagine what you'd be like sitting next to for 8 hours a day....and I don't think it would be a pleasant experience tbh.

chrisfroome

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119126476#Comment_119126476

Oh well, thank God that Boards is not my life and I have plenty of other things to do. Anyway I will leave this discussion for now. I don't want to bore myself arguing with peole like you who "Princess" who have no positive input into this discussion. Complete waste of time and energy. The mods can close this now if they wish. I won't be getting involved again.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119126443#Comment_119126443

I don't know you from Adam but your attitude here wouldn't endear you to anybody. I'm not surprised they didn't see you as a good fit with the rest of the company. You weren't a wet day there. You were let go during your probationary period. This is what probation is for. Move on.

Princess Calla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130345#Comment_119130345

You can make fun of my username all you like....a cartoon character for anyone who is interested 😊

I'm sorry you can't see the positive input you have received. Posters are telling you you come across as agressive, now with your mocking you come across as abit of a bully.

This is what you are showing us, so in real life I'd imagine you are similar which is why you weren't kept on as you weren't a good fit for the team.

I'm delighted you have plenty of other things to do, it's just a shame none of them are a job that pays an income.

chrisfroome

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130403#Comment_119130403

Could not give a flying **** what you think of my attitude if I am honest with you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130584#Comment_119130584

If you read my previous comment you blind ****, you would have seen that I am working happily at the moment and have absolutely no problem so **** off. Sorry that I did not have the time to reply to this **** previously but you know what, I decided to do it now!

Dr Turk Turkelton

This is freaking hilarious. If I was you @chrisfroome I'd try not to get banned from boards as I'd imagine your going to be needing a lot of advice about losing jobs in the future.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212477#Comment_119212477

You're a real charmer. They dodged a bullet with you.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212477#Comment_119212477

Jaysus.

Witcher

Whoever sacked the OP deserves a pay rise themselves.

onrail

Often wondered how obnoxious a person would need to be to fail probation...

Dempo1

I'm just perplexed as to how OP actually got past interview stage, never mind taken on to do a probationary period. The OP question was dumb to start with, that perhaps should have been the warning sign to stay clear.

I've seen some reactions on Boards but my word, OP, you've exelled in obnoxiousness 🙄

blueythebear

In terms of legal advice i recall the industrial relations acts allow for a claim of unfair dismissal if you have less than 12 months service. However, it is not a legally binding adjudication so its kind of pointless. It could even have been repealed at this stage.

The best advice has already been given on the thread, in that you should move on.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212477#Comment_119212477

Yes but you are still on probation and your perception of how well things are going has been defective in the past.

dodzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212477#Comment_119212477

Lol. You said you were ‘not getting involved again’.

The baited line was then cast…… and you bit. 😊

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213768#Comment_119213768

Morning ,

Generally it's 12 months of continuous service but there are exceptions , none of which would be relevant in terms of the OP''s notions.

Exceptions to the ‘length of service’ rule

If you have worked for your employer for less than 12 months, you may still bring a claim for unfair dismissal if you were dismissed for:

• Trade union membership or activity
• Pregnancy, giving birth, breastfeeding or any matters connected with pregnancy or birth
• Availing of rights to maternity leave, adoptive leave, paternity leave, parental leave, carer’s leave, parent's leave, force majeure leave, or the national minimum wage
• Making a protective disclosure.

blueythebear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213863#Comment_119213863

All that has been covered already in the thread and since the OP asked about legal recourse while on probation i presumed he or she knew the basic rules of unfair dismissal legislation, hence my reference to the industrial relations acts, which is a little knownexception to the 12 month continuous service rule. The above represents the basics that all people should know or at least discover on a quick google.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119214006#Comment_119214006

O, and I absolutely agree, I hadn't seen earlier posts on this bizzare Thread , so just wanted to point out the exceptions 😏

The OP was more interested though in making Threads as filler for his own Pity - Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212806#Comment_119212806

We could be talking Ammi Burke levels of lack of awareness here.