Depp/Heard Trial Verdict

Given all I've heard over the years about Depp and how insufferable I find him and how he pretty much ruins anything he's in (for me) my thoughts when this started coming out were "Hmmm". It just didn't ring true. Kevin Spacey? Everyone knew. Marilyn Manson? If anyone was surprised I've a bridge you might be interested in buying.

I've noticed afterwards (including the radio just now) that the talk for Heard's "side" avoids specifics while Depp's side (and 90+% of people who watched the whole time) is the opposite. Strange, right? Well...

bad2thebone

Looks like Johnny Depp will take time to recover from all this. I wish him well and hopefully he'll heal in time. Been there myself in an abusive, manipulation relationship.

A common thing I've observed is people who defend the likes of her and suggest she's the victim are usually potential abusers themselves.

A string of broken relationships and a trail of drama, mindfukery , and the best way to detach is no contact. But these people will use anything to get at you. Manipulate your reality so much that you'll be in a perpetual spin.

Luckily for Mr Depp he had no children with her. Because she'd still be able to control his emotions. Now he can walk away into the sunset....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148635#Comment_119148635

Rumours are he is the biological father of Ms Heard's 14 month old baby.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148621#Comment_119148621

People applying the #believewomen to this case must not have seen any of the evidence.

They saw the evidence and didn't care.

You're trying to apply rationality to people who are extremely emotional, and don't favour logic even slightly. There was a common trend with the #IbelieveHer and #MeToo movements that emotions were what was important, and fact checking frowned upon. The claim was more important than any kind of evidence to support the claim, even when evidence presented disproved the claim. The people who are into these movements are incredibly focused on anything that supports their outrage.

Victims need our protection and support, but victims are not always women

If this case has shown anything, victims are not always victims regardless of how much support they receive. This case turned the tables as to who was the victim.

Reports circulating that Amber Heard is set to contest the verdict of the jury.

So the saga might not be over just yet.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148890#Comment_119148890

Cheers, I didn't know that. Thought he came off weird/goofy.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148957#Comment_119148957

If that's true, then it doesn't really matter what happens re: losing $8 million to Depp; as Musk will take care of her financially for the rest of her life.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148845#Comment_119148845

“A common thing I've observed is people who defend the likes of her and suggest she's the victim are usually potential abusers themselves.”

Most are just idiots, and believe everything that suits their current cause.

I can understand why someone who has escaped an abusive relationship reacts more strongly to this case. It means they are not objective and are likely to project a lot.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149049#Comment_119149049

There's also a large cohort of women who just hate men and wanted Amber to win on the basis that women must be "Heard"; the Me-2 Cultists.

Common personality traits typically include hysteria, paranoia, and a sense of entitlement; all wrapped up with an equally unattractive exterior and possibly multi-coloured hair.

Sudden Valley

I cant see Heard winning the retrial but i guess she has to attempt it not to get cancelled. Will be interesting how Aquaman 2 will be marketed now. Im sure Depp regrets blowing up his long term relationship with thst french lady for this sh#$ show

gimli2112

I didn't really have much interest in the trial or outcome but happened across the verdict live on youtube. While it was no OJ or L. Woodward type drama it was indeed quite entertaining. One thing I found quite worrying was that your whole life could be in the hands of a seven person jury, made up entirely of Americans.

I guess it's not a lot worse than a 12 person jury but it seems like it is.

BorneTobyWilde

So we are to believe, that 7 jurors, who know little about the law, know better than the UK High Court Judge, that this whole thing was indeed a ''HOAX'' , Every bruise is photoshoped, every attack staged, every text Johnny sent was actually her doing it, that all her witnesses are in on it.

I don't think so, I think it's a case of the jurors thinking ''Amber is a bitch, so fck her, we'll side with Johnny'' . That's the reality.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149337#Comment_119149337

Ffs, the cases weren’t the same. The question was different

BorneTobyWilde

And here is the question, why oh why would Amber create this ''HOAX'' when even to this day she says the words '' I love Johnny'' even on the stand she said it. What is the motive for the ''HOAX'

Who the fck would want all this on their shoulders,

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149356#Comment_119149356

The question was the same, it was seen as the truth, ''describing Johnny as a wife beater.'' The evidence showed he was, and that people had a write to publish it.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149356#Comment_119149356

Your mistake is thinking that the poster you responded to is genuine.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149361#Comment_119149361

She said that?

She said she loves him?

Well that changes EVERYTHING!

A proven manipulative, vindictive liar would never be able to say that if it wasn't true.

lol. You are funny.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149337#Comment_119149337

Jury trials are used in hundreds of countries and have been for hundreds of years ffs.

they don’t need to know about the law… they need to reach a conclusion as to a verdict…

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149478#Comment_119149478

Yeah but sometimes they dont give the verdict that Toby wants. That's when they are a bad idea.

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149049#Comment_119149049

Being objective is a natural process until one has the ownership to do better and has the wisdom to know the variables and understand themselves and their own character defects and what drives them to making regrettable decisions.

Being objective isn't an absolute.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149487#Comment_119149487

He is right on one thing though. There were two trials on essentially the same question - Depp was a wife beater. The Judge found one way the Jury the other. The fans of either party , Depp or Heard, seem to just ignore the judgements that don't support their side.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149546#Comment_119149546

Except they weren't essentially the same question. They were actually two very different questions.

"Did the newspaper have any reason to genuinely think there was a story there" is not the same question as "what are the actual facts of that alleged story".

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149546#Comment_119149546

Heard was an equal participant in their toxic and abusive relationship. Not a victim.

"“You can tell people it was a fair fight, and then see what the jury and judge thinks,” Heard says. “Tell the world, Johnny. Tell them, ‘Johnny Depp, I, a man, I’m a victim, too, of domestic violence, it’s a fair fight,’ and see how many people believe or side with you.”

He's a dick. She's a ****

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149574#Comment_119149574

The Washington post have an article about the differences betwen the two trials - paywalled unfortunately but they do say that the British judge ultimately ruled that the allegations against Depp were "substantially true,” writing in a 2020 ruling that “the great majority of alleged assaults … have been proved to the civil standard.” He made a judgment on 14 accounts of alleged abuse and found that 12 of them were likely to have taken place. So not just giving an opinion on the right of the Sun to report it. He made a judgement on the allegations.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149381#Comment_119149381

No the questions were not the same. The case in the UK was whether the Sun was justified in believing that this was a valid story. This lawsuit addressed the direct question of whether AH was telling the truth….a direct challenge of the facts of the case

donaghs

I think the ACLU have a few questions to answer about their role in this. Maybe requires a separate thread on the new “activist” and changing nature of the ACLU.

mumo3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119148967#Comment_119148967

Not likely, from what I've read, he petitioned to have the eggs destroyed after they broke up, but she won and went ahead and had the child, but he was released from any parental obligations!!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149677#Comment_119149677

That’s a different take on the differences between the burden of proof in the two trials to what was laid out by a lawyer on BBC radio 5 today. That the facts of whether AH was telling the truth were not directly interrogated in the UK trial

mumo3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119149689#Comment_119149689

Did something weird not come out about a judge on that, either he or his wife was a columnist for one of the papers sister publications!! Its weird but I came across it, when I went down one of the many rabbit holes during this trial 🤣

bewareofthedog

Some of the headlines on the guardian and NYTs 🤣

I don't see how any objective person who watched trial could come to any other conclusion, she's a fugazi.