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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion: Summer 2022

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Convective weathet showing main focus for N Ireland later.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Picking up a few sferics now, heavy rain.





  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Very heavy rain but not that many sferics showing up.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Some bad flooding up North this evening with those showers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,208 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Some images of the Derry flooding




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58



    From convective Weather



    Day 1 Convective Outlook

    VALID 06:00 UTC Sun 24 Jul 2022 - 05:59 UTC Mon 25 Jul 2022

    ISSUED 08:06 UTC Sun 24 Jul 2022

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    Initially positively-tilted upper trough will swing across the British Isles on Sunday with cool air aloft overspread a humid low-level airmass yielding 500-900 J/kg CAPE across portions of Ireland, Northern Ireland and Scotland in an environment with reasonably strong speed shear. Showers/areas of showery rain over Ireland and Northern Ireland will gradually intensify into Sunday afternoon, with a few thunderstorms likely. Northern and eastern portions of Ulster are most favoured due to the longer land track and time for thunderstorms to mature/grow upscale into a cluster, these then exiting across the North Channel and into SW Scotland - where a marginal MDT has been included. There is the potential for 40-60mm to fall in parts of SW Scotland, perhaps even locally above 80mm, and as such a SVR has been introduced for the risk of surface water flooding. The strongest storms may produce hail up to 1.5cm in diameter.

    Additional showers and perhaps a couple of thunderstorms will be possible in NE Scotland and Caithness during the afternoon, drifting offshore across the Moray Firth. Also, portions of NE/E England may need monitoring for the potential for a few isolated thunderstorms to develop in the vicinity of the stalled cold front, although it may be that any thunderstorms that do occur (if any) tend to intensify as they drift offshore and across the North Sea. Finally, historically there had been hints of an uptick in possible elevated convection along/ahead of the cold front in parts of SE England and East Anglia coast on Sunday night, although that suggestion has now reduced in recent model guidance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭glightning


    Just had a decent storm here in Ballinderry, Co.Antrim. Started off with frequent CC's high up every few seconds and then progressed to either CC or CG with louder thunder every 30 seconds to a minute between each one. Poor visibility due to heavy rain and mist made it difficult to spot any CG's. Multi-cell in nature as thunder coming from different directions during the peak.

    Still waiting for a good night time storm as last one here was 2017, but at least it was something interesting to come home to after a hot week in Majorca.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Fingers crossed we get decent ones



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Will be watching the fronts tomorrow to see if any storms show up , maybe too messy a profile but some of the parameters are good for convection to form and some chance of a few storms breaking out coming in from the Atlantic , also in the early hours of Tuesday morning might be some interest. Not huge confidence with this but with a high theta W plume and high Dp's and good levels of shear some bit of activity might occur.








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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    No mention in the forecasts of any thunderstorm activity, Convective Weather not giving much chance either.


    http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/


    Day 1 Convective Outlook: Mon 01


    LOWSLGTMDTHIGHSVRWhat do these risk levels mean?

    Day 1 Convective Outlook

    VALID 06:00 UTC Mon 01 Aug 2022 - 05:59 UTC Tue 02 Aug 2022

    ISSUED 06:10 UTC Mon 01 Aug 2022

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    Once again a humid airmass will extend across the British Isles through this forecast period as a frontal system migrates northeastwards. Forecast profiles reveal some weak embedded instability at times, encouraging some heavy, showery bursts of rain. The risk of lightning in any one location is considered quite low, but non-zero, given both the shallow nature of convection and/or rather moist profiles. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭lolie


    Anyone with the channel Quest Red this might be a decent watch now at 10pm tonight.

    In 2016 the world's largest epidemic thunderstorm asthma event hits Melbourne. Within an hour, thousands of calls to emergency services start flooding in.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Blah



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    When you see "more than ten Australians died" you know they're already into exaggeration and the program will most likely be Daily-Mail-esque. Was it actually more than ten or was it just ten but you want to exaggerate it for effect? Any time I see this "more than" on a simple number like that alarm bells ring. Just say "ten".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Rougies


    It has to be 11 really. More than ten, not quite "at least a dozen". 13 would get "over a dozen" 24 would get "dozens", 40 would get "scores" etc etc..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Loud rumble in East Galway around 04:20 (!). Met Eireann and netweather show a strike near MountBellew. Also some sparks showing up earlier around Ballyhaunis and Ballaghderren



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,980 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Thunder and lightning in Galway City



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Galway city east, large flash and thunder straight after



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭robclay26


    Thunder near Delvin Westmeath



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A fair bit of lightning overnight after all .

    Didn't hear any thunder here near Tralee but some big showers.





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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,980 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    During the Thunder last night in Galway there was one loud bang followed by bang bang bang it was not the normal loud clap and long rumble, anyone know what would cause that kind of thunder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Probably elevated lightning, so some of the sound frequencies got filtered out on their way to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,980 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Thanks for that Gaoth Laidir I never heard that before it was a long bang bang all the way until it stopped, one other thing for you that was strange there was one flash of lightning that lit up but slowly died away not the instant flash we are used to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    A large CB incus has sprung up off to my northeast here in northern Sardinia and is spreading this way. Producing lots of lightning and heavy localised rain, the first rain in 6 weeks.

    A couple of thousand J/kg of SBCAPE and complex terrain and seabreeze combination.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭highdef


    Oh I do hope you're getting a nice timelapse of that as it approaches!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Didn't get a time-lapse but the shear was impressive. The anvil made the 70-km trip to here in around 20 minutes. The radar shows rain falling here but there was none and I didn't even see any virga.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭highdef


    The satellite animation alone is impressive!!!! I did have a look at lightning maps after I had read your post and I could see that the activity was already waning. I'm guessing your either in the Sassari of Alghero areas?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Alghero.

    It's sunny again this evening and pretty humid. WBT is back up to 26 C.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭littlecopilot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Meanwhile in Washington, right in front of the White house




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    And it just proves that lightning doesn't "always hit the highest object".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Tickityboo


    Delete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭highdef


    Awwww, would have loved to have heard the thunder from that :-(

    Unfortunately, 2 people were killed by that strike and another 2 were seriously injured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    The lunchtime Barcelona sounding showed SBCAPE of 7300 J/kg, which is way too high due to it reading an incorrect surface dewpoint of 31 °C. Surface stations at the time were reporting dp of 23-24 °C. Using that in the sounding would still give a relatively high SBCAPE of around 4000-5000 J/kg and MLCAPE of around 3000-4000 J/kg. Still juicy.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Meteorologist Andrew Pichard captured these back end mammatus clouds the other day in Illinois. Very likely from the same system that brought those big storms to the east coast yesterday.


    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Next weekend is looking promising from a thunderstorm point of view.

    Early doors but it's no harm having a bit of hope. 😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭typhoony


    Early August is best time of year for thundery breakdowns, hopefully it kicks off on the west coast early next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,991 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I have my doubts... unless the moisture comes during the day, it just won't be anything like warm enough at night to generate sparks.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Going by the consistency of the models Sunday looking like a strong possibility of widespread thunderstorms with heavy downpours I reckon.

    Saturday a chance of s few also and next Monday showing up as a potentially active day also.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    It would be epic watching it rolling in from a high part of the Burren near Fanore or Doolin across Galway bay looking from South West and the middle say the Arran Islands up towards North West, I'd say if it was going to be a show, it would be a rare occasion.

    But worth the drive in the evening time if you're not far from there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭typhoony


    Sunday evening is looking more and more interesting, Limerick/Clare/Galway/Roscommon/Westmeath with Cape values above 1000 in the midlands



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭typhoony


    Not sure it's a rolling in off the coast type of thundery outbreak, more inland heat and instability generated storms



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    So it'll spark off inland, will the wet weather be coming from the Atlantic or Europe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    It won't be "coming from" anywhere really, the heat rising off the land will cause cloud to build overhead, especially near higher ground and these form into showers, then thunderstorms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    GEM 12z picking up some serious showers for Monday!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Kutebride


    👎😪 wouldn't mind temps dropping but the now forecast for Monday's rain with tickets for Meath's tourist attraction on Monday.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Latest UKV looks good for pretty much widespread thunderstorm activity from west to east overnight Sunday Night into Monday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Quite the showing on the Arome





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,980 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    ME said that Thundery showers would move in from the West any chance for us tonight or tomorrow



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