Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

Finty Lemon

Swap implies a quid pro quo, a planned exchange. Not definitively the case when parties alertnately won elections. "They swapped" versus "was swapped" are also different in implication.

Anyway, who's available to carry the cónra? Ferris, Quinlivan, Adams and Carthy for the first lift. It would only be right.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121914284#Comment_121914284

You have to remember that Francie claims to have been fooled by the two biggest parties for 40 years into voting for them, and only recently converted to Sinn Fein. The self-awareness to realise that having been fooled by two parties for 40 years that he is now being fooled by another party is absent. Why? Cultist behaviour never sees beyond the cult. Indoctrination in the ways of the good republican cause means that you revert back to the themes and memes that sustain your belief. It is like engaging with a devoted Catholic on transubstantiation. Best to ignore.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121915979#Comment_121915979

Not 'fooled'.

I'm a realist, I understood even when voting for them that FG and FF were not perfect, that I didn't subscribe to all of their policy. No different when I decided to vote for SF. I don't defend them on every single issue that comes up around them or all of their policy, for instance.

You may be confused, Enda certainly did 'fool' me with his New Politics nonsense. I left the FG cult, (around 20% are still being fooled) behind after 2016 when I realised he nor FG was ever going to deliver on those promises.

blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121916021#Comment_121916021

So you were shilling for Sinn Féin across multiple accounts on here between 2010-2016, but voting for FG ?

Pull the other one

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121916036#Comment_121916036

Despite the denials, he is on record as claiming to have been fooled for decades by the two main parties. That was the language used, and yes, that was right up until the 2020 election when he started voting for Sinn Fein for the first time. I will leave it there, it is all on record.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121916036#Comment_121916036

I never had 'multiple accounts' I misused two legal accounts (for the sum total of 3-4 posts on one thread) the mods were fully aware of. I was extremely critical of FG and FF but I still voted for them as I didn't think SF were ready, I do believe that election was a watershed of sorts in the country in general. You could sense plenty of people had had enough and that reflected in the vote in 2020. Definitively my mistake in 2016.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121916095#Comment_121916095

Here is an exchange between us in 2022 when you tried this on as well.

Blanch: Wait a minute, you have confessed to being fooled for 50 years. I haven't convicted based just on an allegation - it is your self-confessed position that politicians are clever enough to fool you for 50 years.

I see nothing that would convince me that you aren't still being fooled.

FrancieBrady: Where did I confess to being fooled for 50 years? I'm pretty sure I said the watershed moment for me was Enda's bullshit about new politics.

I got fooled again in 2016 but that was the end of it.

People still in captivity shouldn't be throwing stones.

I never said I was fooled for 50 years but freely admit to being fooled by Enda, as we all, including you, were.

Bobson Dugnutt

I see Doherty was doing his tiresome shouting, roaring and finger pointing stuff today in the Dáil. He’s full of auld bluster and hot air for the social media team, but he’s red raw useless when he’s asked for any detail in an interview. More depth in a saucer.

Working class heroes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121916160#Comment_121916160

When you’re explaining……..

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923352#Comment_121923352

When you’re explaining...again, you mean.

blanch, never showed where I had 'confessed I was fooled for 50 years'.

Spoofing now as he was then.

acceletor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923364#Comment_121923364

I'm curious, have you ever received any bans on this site?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121925398#Comment_121925398

Yes.

Clo-Clo

Interesting another of the new accounts on boards started a thread about creating a new political party.

The entire post was about how great Sinn Fein was but poor Sinn Fein the only reason people are not voting for them is because of their history.

Needless to say the thread is crashing and burning, as Sinn Fein policies are pulled to pieces

Unfortunately for Sinn Fein as people get closer to an election it would seem they are reading the parties policies and strangely enough the incompetent ones from Sinn Fein are falling to pieces.

Nobody has yet to say they are not voting for them because of the "fear" and other waffle we get fired out on these threads.

So to answer the original thread title "Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma"? well looks like they won't need to 😂

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927510#Comment_121927510

Had a read of the thread there and even though the poster clarified that he/she was not interested in voting for SF you and a few others insisted on talking about SF. When your own not much older account got found out on taxes you immediately deflected to Paddy Cosgrove who isn't in any political party nor setting up one.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928101#Comment_121928101

🤣

Attack the poster as usual Francie, it will never change will it?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928337#Comment_121928337

Were you, a relatively new account, not attacking a poster too? Is there anything I said not true?

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928347#Comment_121928347

No I didn't, but then again you know that and off down the same rabbit hole

The interesting part of the thread which as I posted is clear from the posters on the thread the policies of Sinn Fein have been found out.

Instead of responding about that you try to attack me. As I said, it will never change.

P.S I have no interest in 100 responses trying to bait me into saying something so you can run to the mods. As usual you attack the poster instead of the topic

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928357#Comment_121928357

You certainly kept saying they were found out when the OP repeatedly was saying they were not advocating voting for SF. Then when you were found out yourself you deflected to Paddy Cosgrove. About right? I think I have described the course of that thread quite accurately.

P.S. Policies will only be 'found out' when they are implemented.

adubintipp2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928384#Comment_121928384

"Policies will only be 'found out' when they are implemented." or when they are scrutinised?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928492#Comment_121928492

Well Clo Clo did a bit of scrutinising on that thread and got it wrong...then tried to divert to something else. People have opinions on policy, no doubt.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928492#Comment_121928492

Policies must be found out when they are scrutinised. Imagine Sinn Fein go into an election campaign promising to raise Corporation Tax to 30% to raise money for doubling of social welfare rates. If we adopted Francie's policy of no scrutiny, people could actually vote for something like that.

The outcome would be corporation tax receipts collapsing as multinationals left the country and SMEs went out of business. Unemployment and emigration would soar.

Actually, now that I think about it, Sinn Fein do have the solution to immigration, implement Pearse's mad economic policies and the population will drop by 2 million as everyone runs for the door. Gets rid of the housing problem and queues in hospitals too.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928732#Comment_121928732

All sorts of policies have been proposed and weren’t found out by scrutiny over the years. Some worked others didn’t. And all of them had naysayers and yehsayers before they were implemented. The recent referendums are just one example.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928558#Comment_121928558

See this is standard you, you make something up to attack the poster and not discuss the topic. Will it ever change?

As expected you have nothing to add to the discussion about Sinn Fein policies. That's not a surprise

But post away how many times about me? 🤣

Dont bother quoting me again. I have zero interest in the usual 100 posts of nonsense

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121929119#Comment_121929119

YOU brought an attack on another poster into this thread. When challenged on your own performance on that thread you get all huffy.

Since the dawn of this state policies have been proposed, implemented and failed as well as succeeded. I’m trying to think of a proposed policy which hasn’t had it’s detractors but can’t think of a single one.

SF’s are no different.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121929164#Comment_121929164

I suggest you report the claimed attack on another poster. Im sure the mods will be in contact with me if this issue did occur

Now you have nothing as usual to add to anything topic so adieu

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121929202#Comment_121929202

You attacked the ‘new’ poster on a completely spurious basis when that poster with an account (which is only a few months younger than yours) repeatedly said they were not advocating for or intending to vote for SF.

That was the only ‘topic’ in your post.

blackwhite

John Brady leaving a bit of an open goal - maybe he’s not familiar with who his party leader is?

Although we are now in an odd situation where all 3 leaders of the largest parties have been members of FF.

https://twitter.com/damienwlr/status/1771910399190786507?s=46&t=nCQ2zYUI_IYJ_l6bQ4J4vQ

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121934435#Comment_121934435

Is he still living in a council house paying minimal rent on his salary of 100k?

pureza

At the AGM of the Association of Garda sergeants and inspector's,There was a very large endorsement of Simon Haris's condemnation of the draping of the tricolour over the coffin of someone convicted of killing a Garda

It's bound to be a problem for Sinn Féin in coalition negotiations

There's one pirouette Sinn Féin won't be doing and that's in celebrating the IRA so I'm not sure how they're going to navigate things like that

It's one thing to say it's time to move on

But when the Son of a slain Garda is still alive and a Garda himself, its awkward when such displays the police force of this State regard as deeply hurtful are involved

blanch152

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/ira-victims-solicitor-facing-defamation-claim-by-firm-representing-gerry-adams/a683170563.html

Sinn Fein taking SLAPPS to a new level, suing the solicitor for victims.

Have they no shame? Have they no decorum?

I don't think Sinn Fein have any understanding of the meaning of reconciliation.