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Ploughing 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭tanko


    Not if everyone else does the same.

    Sure don’t you know how Irish people have to drive at 2mph when the slightest drop of rain falls, i predict traffic chaos tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,775 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Contrary to earlier post we’re going tomorrow no matter the weather. Bringing wet gear and boots.


    disappointed to hear the cattle stands are down in numbers, always like them.

    Be looking at slurry additives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭eastie17


    Rip off for food, drinks and the hurdy gurdys, Tenner a go for some rides!

    I dont think its worth the hassle or the price anymore, like everything else its turned into an opportunity to extract as much cash from the punters as possible. Pity as it used to be a highlight of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭White Clover


    How much for the bord bia steak sandwich this year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Traffic from M6 Tullamore turn-off was slow going all the way past the Tullamore ring road. Better to go back roads.

    Always enjoy the ploughing, but it's losing a lot of the farming aspect of it, trade stands are generic companies more so now. Ploughing itself was good though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Went today to the ploughing, traffic was great with no delays. I thought it was very poor, machinery well back and talking to a few lads in the game that were there, there will be less there next year with a few more going to pull out

    livestock was very small, a part I used to really enjoy,

    I don’t think I’ll bother with it next year, I think it’s a show that is on a down road spiral which is sad as it was once the highlight of the year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Sounds very poor this year if reports are anything to go by. Usually go but not bothered this year. I find the way politicians, media and huge businesses have kind of taken over the Ploughing more than a little nauseating.

    Im in my late 30s and can remember as a kid it being a very farmer oriented event. Now all the “city slickers” dominate it.

    Not surprised to hear many big companies not bothered- work in Agricultural Related trade and there’s no way we’d bother- we have had the conversation and concluded money and time much better spent specifically targeting our own customers and their base. Cast a net too wide and you end up with a lot of tyre kickers!



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    I thought the day was good on Tuesday, mind you I had specific things to see. Didn't find the traffic much of an issue, crowd was manageable compared to other years, even found a good toilet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    In recent years there’s been WAY too many gangs of school teens (prob last 15 years) just there for the doss and tbh make it very uncomfortable for people that genuinely might want to do business. The cynic in me concludes this is to bunk up the ticket gate sales and food sales. I don’t see what else they add?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Gudstock


    For the first time in 24 times going to the Ploughing, I was disappointed with the whole event today.

    Traffic wise coming from Limerick I was supposed to turn off at 17 according to all press and plan but the Video signs on road said to continue to 16, I did and it kept moving ok all the way to field. At 17 there was a massive queue on to motorway and not moving at all.

    Was in around 10.30 am to a huge crowd on every row. Very uncomfortable. Just way too many, especially the bus loads of kids on the doss. Came across the oneills and aldi tent queues early on and i thought it was just the daftest sights ever, must have genuinely been 500-1000 easy waiting to get into the aldi tent and hundreds more kids at the other one.

    And to think about what the state and taxpayer is paying the npa with every government dept or quango paying for prime real estate and massive tents in the prime locations centre of the site. The centre of the site with all this rubbish was probably one of the two quieter areas along with row 1, which was the last one i had to see as i came to it.

    Hardly any cattle, salers, aubrac, AA x2 and Holstein. Really disappointing, it used be my favourite part, seeing the best of the best and each breed trying to sell their values. No AI companies either and this was usually the event where they would launch catalogue with next years offering.

    Hardly any tractors really but a lot of irish machinery on display.

    Tullamore is a much much better day in my opinion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Gudstock


    From what i have heard the bigger state tents, or perhaps better described as structures are costing anywhere from 250-500k between npa fees and structure hire plus personnel and their expenses costs, just madness.

    Shameless politicians too, nothing new there i know! But how ambivalent and not interested in except to bash it they are towards farming for the other 362 days of the year just gets me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Always enjoyed the car stands, is it true some of the big names are missing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    Seem steak sandwich for €15



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭duffysfarm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    I think i bumped into every single one of them...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    The cattle societies all were in tullamore, the prices for the ploughing has gone crazy and the cattle breeds pulled out and the Ai companies and machinery done the same, the cost for the sheep tent has doubled, our kids ag teacher didn’t send the class as too much cost and hardship. The ploughing is going to go backwards after this year with covid over and people experience the greed this year, Tullamore away better day for stock farmers and more chance to talk to people. Social media is an easier way to promote livestock and products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,332 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Be alot less school kids at Tullamore too which would help things too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭leoch


    Me either tullamore a million times better



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Had to go yesterday and man a stand/tent for the off-farm job.

    Only had a quick walk-around but it’s not really a day out in my book. Maybe if going is a tradition in your house or you always go with a few lads. Other than that, it’s crammed with groups of teenagers, machinery salesmen in branded jackets, and politicians smirking at the fact there’s still some country people around

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Went yesterday and brought one of the kids for their first time. Junction 17 was a mess with big signs to say take it and then a big queue for it along the hard shoulder of the motorway and when we got there 2 guards waving lads on down the road - no sign then at junction 16 even if it was the obvious one to take next! Left early so no issue coming home with traffic.

    Enjoyed some bits of it. I'm looking into getting a few bits for the farm and alternative fertilizing options so there was a good selection there and had a few good chats. The livestock area was very disappointing with so few breeds - really disappointing. The likes of McHale and major still had a big presence but a lot others missing. The top half of the show was just a disaster from a crowds point of view. Regular bottlenecks and the queues for the likes of O'Neills, Aldi, RTE, McKeevers etc were ridiculous. It's definitely losing it's 'soul' - and probably had a long time ago. Might go once or twice more to give the younger kids who haven't been one visit each but will be Tullamore from now on. It's a real pity as I used to love it but came away yesterday afternoon really disappointed with the direction it's taken. Lack of toilets in the busy areas was a serious let down as well - some people queueing 30 mins and more - although there were more then at the back of the O'Neills tent and no queues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭davidk1394




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Don't want to come across as "old man yells at crowd" but have to agree with this. This year was my first ploughing in roughly 10 years, and I thought that there was definitely a noticeable change in demographics - to the detriment of the event I would say. Too many secondary school students, and more worryingly, stands aimed at them. I know they add something (carnival atmosphere?) to the event, but too many cooks spoil the broth and all that. Maybe the event would be better served by having one day dedicated to secondary school tours, and the remaining days for the regulars.

    Also agree with the general sentiment on here that the show was poor enough quality overall. Especially for what once-was/should be the target audience - farmers. And I think that's the issue. In trying to be all things to all people, the ploughing has gone from a farmer-oriented event, to a celebration of rural life, to what it is now - a commercial sell-out. Less cattle, less machinery, and more commercial stalls from behemoths like Aldi, RTE, and political parties. Which can all be visited for the princely sum of €25. It will be another 10 years before I'm there I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭Jimbo789


    I went yesterday. I have gone around once every 8-10 years. Weather was good and no issue with traffic. Like most people have said, the Tullamore show is better from the farmers perspective.


    I might go again in another 8-10 years, the only thing that might persuade me to go sooner would be if there was an over 18s day with no children allowed so it would be much easier to walk around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I went yesterday as I had 3 items I wanted to see with the intention of buying.

    Got there at 11, what would normally be an hours drive from here took about an hour and 10 minutes, the same on the way home after leaving it at 6.30pm. Definitely could have no complaints about the traffic.

    The food is always going to be overpriced at the ploughing but I don’t mind that as it’s to be expected. Although I went to one of the rumbles “sit down” restaurants at half 3, only a handful in the queue, loads of spare seating and a good dinner for €15. A choice of beef, chicken and a few other items. Potatoes and veg with them. I thought that was great value considering it was €12.50 for a burger and chips at the takeaway tents and the food was good quality too.

    The exhibitors area was a disaster. For once it was well laid out with all similar items grouped together, but there was one end up near the funfair and it was just jammed solid. They had all the stalls that kids would be interested in grouped together, Grassmen, O’Neills, Aldi, TikTok, Hurley makers, etc and it was mayhem with 1000’s queueing in the walkways to get into them all. We were parked in car park 1 and the entrance from there was in that corner and it was some job trying to get through all of that crowd to the remaining stalls. Although once you got through that corner the rest of the walkways were ok so maybe it was a good thing to keep all that stuff up in one corner.

    The machinery and livestock tents were very disappointing. From talking to people I know that were on stands the price hikes for the space have been crazy so it’s not a bit surprising to see so many big names gone. Condells in Portlaoise are only a stones throw from there and had no stand at it with the Massey tractors so that tells you enough. Atkins normally have one of the best stands with Fendt and Bredal and this is the first time they weren’t there. McHales, Major, Malone, Samco and Abbey had the most impressive stands from what I remember. I think all of the machinery and livestock exhibitors should get together and tell the NPA they’re all pulling out together if they don’t do something about the setup and pricing.

    The 3 items I wanted to see were a silage rake, a generator and a gps for one of the tractors. I think Malone, McHales and the JF centre were the only stands with rakes there, none of the more common manufacturers. The few stalls selling generators were all crazy busy so I just got brochures and will contact them again. I saw no one there with gps systems so that was a dead duck too!

    A sure sign of the way it has changed into a show for tat rather than agriculture when you can’t even view what would be very common agricultural items at it any more. 10 years ago I’d have been able to do a deal on all of them items I wanted there on the day, you can’t even see them there any more now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Was that the junction with 3 guards but one was jumping up and down like a child not getting his way swinging both arms. We actually commented he would be fun to work with.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Toilet blocks down at the end of the vintage display area tend to be quiet and no queues either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Tileman


    I think tullamore needs to go to two day event. Much nicer aimed at farmers rather than anything associated with rural Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Anyone know the results of international classes from yesterday, or have they been announced? Not carried on the NPA website as yet. A small crowd had gathered around Eamon Treacy yesterday as he completed his plot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    No you’re right I despise the teen mobs that have become a feature of it. They get in the way and cause mayhem. I can only imagine what they are like today with the wet day. 20 years ago we didn’t go, it wasn’t the done thing and there’s no way the school would have approved of bus loads taking a day off for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I didn't go this year and it sounds like I missed nothing.

    Watching Agriland Live here and Alice Doyle from IFA was just speaking.

    Have to say every time I hear her speak, I'm in awe of her. A real intelligent and competent speaker.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,182 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I've been to Tullamore but found I planked myself at the Limousin Ring and didn't move for the day. I don't think I got to see any machinery. Going to the ploughing has always been a tradition for a lot of country folk. Sad that they messed it up with exorbitant stand prices.

    Imagine the biggest farming event of the year and the largest machinery manufacturers and cattle breed societies not being there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    That was it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭farmerphil135


    We got in there at 7:40 Tuesday morning and had 3/4 of it seen by 10:30 including pricing a few bits and stopping for pictures. I reckon only for we were to be at Herdwatch from 12 we’d of had it all seen and done, dinner ate and ready for home by 2. Far cry from what it used to be like where you’d hardly see it in the day.

    if they don’t cut stand prices it’ll dwindle into a small show in years to come



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Is the size of the thing noticeably reduced?

    I get the impression that apart from the State stands, media and the likes of Oneills selling tat you can buy in any sports shop or online there’s not a lot to see this year?

    I remember good stuff like the Land Rover off-road area or Husqvarna chainsaws- pure marketing of course but really good displays and entertaining. Sounds like there’s nothing like that now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭tanko


    Two days isn’t practical for the livestock exhibitors tho, they don’t go to the ploughing because they’re stuck there for three days.



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    I'll take a punt on which stand and say our young lad had a great time moving the robotic lamp in the opposite corner of that stand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I’m just after being travelling around the Tullamore bypass and there’s a lot of very dirty cars coming from the Portlaoise road. Judging by some of them where all toy can see of the windscreen is the section cleaned by the wipers I’d say the car parks are great fun today!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    It's a tradition in my house. The excitement of looking forward to going to the ploughing and the day out weeks in advance is almost better than being there itself I think.

    Have to laugh at the young lads of 15 or 16 walking around with hats they bought that had the cannabis plant design on it.

    Less laughing at kids of 9 or 10 with hates saying TikTok on them. Sad that young kids who technically aren't even allowed to have accounts are actively wanting gear with a social media sites name on it.

    Prams and buggies shouldn't be allowed either. People taking up too much space with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Have we reached 'Peak Ploughing'? Yesterday felt like it. Full of TY students and college kids which is fair enough but it does change the feel of the day. Spoke to on 75 year old ploughing veteran competitor who got landed into a bin by a group of lads in blue Aldi cowboy hats - classy lads. Plenty of straw hats and spare tyres wandering about.

    Livestock display was non-existent except for a few Angus runners. An AI company rep told me that the companies had agreed to sign up for one combined marquee which NPA didn't allow so they all gave it a miss. No new tech or machinery worth seeing either. Expected things like the Agriland tent to be full but they had very little going on. Big push from left wing and fringe parties for the farmer vote- they will get it up north and west.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,775 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Back home in Cavan now.

    we were in the parking at 8:45, straight run in, light traffic at that time so hard to judge how the set up was.

    crossed a large stubble field, aluminium track half way, two cars in front of us bogged down as soon as we left it, one a silly lowered bora with a big back pipe and the bumper pulled off it, we did laugh. Very sticky coming out, good few stuck cars and cans in our corner but they were driving into a wet hollow like lemmings rather than looking at the field and taking to the high ground.

    disappointed less stock on show.

    down the funfair end was total rubbish, tat stalls and young kids hanging about. But in general I’d say the large groups of teenagers were less and possibly better behaved than in the past,

    rain always woefull when we arrived and it kept the crowd small, we got to the few stands we wanted and there was plenty of time to talk to reps, made our purchase. Spoke to department rep about ACRES scheme which was very helpful, she wasn’t that confident about uptake among intensive farmers, but agreed that not all Tier2 farmers would ever get in. Spoke to her about plan carrying over to use in second year and she said there would need to be an additional payment to the advisor no matter what but that would be up for negotiation with them.

    young lass had a great day. Mrs came and hadn’t been in 25years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    I think wheeling out the old lady every year isn't the type of image we want . also I believe the personal enrichment of the few and the greed involved will finish it off unfortunately.

    it's a pity the industry doesn't come together and organise an alternative that exhibitors could afford in a good location that would be more focused. hold it around the 10th of September.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    There’s probably an opportunity for a more farmer-focused, smaller event alright. Maybe Punchestown, which seems to host a few events like this already.

    Let the ploughing continue to be a media circus for everyone else who sells to farmers.

    And you’re right, it’s a bit leprechaun-ie to wheel out the elderly lady every year to sing her song. It lets the city folk look down on the simple oul country people and our culchie accents

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    especially when you know there's nothing simple about the people who own that show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    There's a few saying this end of the country they're getting more enjoyment from Tullow, Tinahealy, Bannow and Iverk shows than this years event.

    Haven't gone to any of those this year either.

    But thank the committees they're still going ..strong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    I saw the old lady being driven around the site in a big lump of a top of the range Mercedes jeep today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Cran


    Was talking to a large exhibitor last week, said when turned up on site they had 30metre frontage instead of 23 they’d booked. Obviously a tactic to cover up the gaps in the show, he did also say Royal Highland was same this year though load of large machinery missing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    did anyone see tv3 news a few mins ago

    ...Anna May getting her retaliation in first, talking about how much it costs to put on the ploughing and all the effort and work that goes into it....I was there yesterday and like a lot of the previous comments I couldn’t but be disappointed with the low turnout from both the cattle associations and also the machinery dealers. I heard from good sources that the charges this year were bordering on price gouging (maybe to make up a few quid after the pandemic??) and a lot of dealers said...thanks but no thanks.

    The machinery dealers are gone to the specialist events now.

    Ploughing has turned more into a secondary school tour type of event and the amount of hawkers selling rubbish was shocking altogether. Or the card trick lads FFS like.

    Add to this the rip off prices for Tae and coffee not to even talk about food.

    The ploughing has got progressively less enjoyable over the years. It’s sad but it was a victim of its own success and greed really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    if they want It to survive long term they would identify the shortcomings and rectify them pronto so that it doesn't slip any further but I doubt they will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭youllbemine


    Just back from the ploughing now. Drifted in at 1:30, missed the traffic and the rain thankfully. Thought the show was lacking in livestock and demonstrations. But enjoyed Teagasc, Organic Village and Innovation Centre stands. Left around 6pm, very light traffic. Went down the fun fair end and Christ it was some kip, all the crap clothes stands and tat being sold was incredible. Don't remember it being that bad last time I was there in 2015. I remember a proper robotic demonstration from Lely with cows there for the three days, and other demonstrations aswell. Was some big names missing today for sure. As said on here, sounds like they're putting the hand in for the fees.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Positives of the show was that the stands were grouped according to their business. And all the rubbish was in one corner. Some people treat the ploughing like a shopping trip Kildare Village or Dublin. Walked into one stand and was half thinking of buying something, saw the queue of people waiting to pay for stuff, turned around and left.

    Realistically what business has any company bringing big 300hp tractor to the place with the hope of generating a sale. Most companies already have enough orders on their books or else are struggling to get raw materials. TFM had one of the biggest stands at Tullamore but not there, wonder why? I would say a lot of big machinery companies write the ploughing off as a business expense as I doubt they turn a profit. A 2500gal tanker with a dribble bar/trailing shoe costing over 45k, people are not spending.

    Only one supermarket stand this year. The government and political parties filled up a large hole in the middle of the ploughing. After leaving the ploughing in 2019 I was looking to go a second day. This year, I wouldn't be bothered.

    I'd like to know are there committee meetings where people voice their concerns or is it a dictatorship? No sign of Mchugh jr this year?



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