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  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭hotrodder


    I know the first round of Acres is full. Is it to Kate to apply for next trench now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,239 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    All applicants to hear from the Dept by mid February. There is still no definite if the additional 16k applicants will get into the scheme this year - “If we can secure all 46,000 and find a pathway for that, then that addresses the issue, in terms of the payment. If we’re not able to, obviously the issue around gap payments is something we’ll have to consider,” he told the ICSA AGM."

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/acres-all-applicants-to-hear-from-department-by-mid-february/



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Normally we submit our SFP/BFP plan online ourselves. Will things be more difficult now with BISS



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,929 ✭✭✭893bet


    I don’t think so. Should be just a few clicks. Maybe a few extra tick boxes.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,472 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    It will be much the same just you will have to tock boxes for Criss, and the other different parts of the SFP AFAIK.

    They definitely want everything to remain online

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭tanko


    I’d say so, got a letter from my consultant a few weeks ago saying that the fee for BPS will be about €100 more than last year due to the extra work involved.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,929 ✭✭✭893bet


    Tell them get fucked. If you are savvy enough to post on boards then then applications are a doddle.


    Off topic but I did a passport application online during the week. Monday I think. Took my own photo on phone and uploaded. Passport came yesterday. Great service compared to old one. We are slow getting there with online applications but ingeneral when they do go online they are straightforward



  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭FREDNISMO


    Bill of 500e here, on the back of 400e for reap.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Jaysus advisors know well how to charge lads these days.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭tanko


    I won’t be telling the relatives to do that, i get all that stuff done for peanuts. I got the letter the same as all his clients. Its going to be more complicated this year for sure, how much more remains to be seen i suppose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,472 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    That is because lads are seen as an easy target. Just to compare Teagasc club contract starts at 170 euro and it is better value

    Most lads would get in at the basic charge. Filling out the SFP is fairly easy anyway. The department do open days in most counties AFAIK and will definitely do them this year.

    I imagine there is YouTube videos as well. I could not believe what lads were charge for acres last year.

    This is income units


    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭kerrysoul


    Did anyone receive correspondence re ACRES. It is now passed mid Feb and the only letter I got recently was a bill for €500 from my Advisor for submitting my application. He will have to wait his turn for payment and if I don't get into the first tranche, he might be waiting for a long time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,472 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    How's is the coppiceing of hedges going to work after first of March when no one has got info that they are accepted to scheme. Wait till September is it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭kerrysoul


    ACRES needs ‘additional budget’ for all applicants – McConalogue


    Francess McDonnell

    Feb 21, 2023 8:00am


    Key issues around “capacity, infrastructure and budget” remain on the table in relation to the Agri Climate Rural Environment Scheme (ACRES) according to the Minister for Agriculture.

    The clock is ticking for Minister Charlie McConalogue and the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (DAFM) to meet the minister’s own deadline of informing ACRES applicants of their status “before the end of February”.

    The minister has told members of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine that his “objective, if possible, is to be in a position to accept all 46,000 applicants to the current tranche of the scheme”.

    But he also warned TDs and senators that there “are operational considerations” for his department and if all applicants cannot be accommodated in Tranche 1 then he will “assess issues relating to gap years, etc”.

    During a recent committee meeting Minister McConalogue said:

    “I want to be certain any next steps do not compromise the integrity of the scheme or our ability to make timely payments to applicants accepted into it.

    “It is important to move as quickly as possible on this and I plan to announce next steps very soon. I intend all ACRES applicants will hear from us before the end of February.” 

    ACRES applicants

    But the Fianna Fáil TD for Longford-Westmeath, Joe Flaherty, told the minister that he has been contacted by a large number of farmers in his area who were “marginal farmers” and who are “staring at the possibility of being excluded from ACRES”.

    Deputy Flaherty said most of these farmers were dependent on an off-farm income but were also “hugely important both to the local economy but, more importantly, to the local ecology”. 

    ” Is there any way or means to accommodate those farmers, particularly ones who are exiting existing environmental schemes in order that they will not experience a fall-off in income and supports that will most likely force them to make a draconian decision and exit the sector?” Deputy Flaherty asked.

    According to Minister McConalogue to take in all 46,000 applicants to ACRES in Tranche 1 will require “budgetary adjustment”.

    “I have been engaging across government, particularly with the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform but also with other ministers and party leaders.

    “There is a very strong appetite if we can do it. It would require additional budget as well as making sure we have the logistical capacity,” he added.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Good enough for them, could have just rolled over all willing glas participants. They did it 2 years running. What odds would a third have made.until they got their s hit in oder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭kerrysoul


    ACRES: ‘We are looking under the hood and pushing to the limit’


    Stella Meehan

    Feb 24, 2023 2:37pm


    Minister of the State at the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (DAFM), Martin Heydon has said that he and his colleague, agriculture minister, Charlie McConalogue are “pushing to the limit” to ensure more than 46,000 farmers are included in the new Agri Climate Rural Environment Scheme (ACRES).

    The junior minister was responding to questions from farmers at a conference on the future of agriculture which was hosted by Fine Gael in Tuam, Co. Galway last night (Thursday, February 23).

    Irish Farmers’ Association (IFA) Rural Development chair, Michael Biggins spoke from the audience and said: “We have a scheme… I’m talking about ACRES… 46,600 people don’t fit into 30,000 places and we have a serious problem with it.

    “There are 16 and a half thousand farmers out there that need to get into a scheme. I think it’s vital that you [Minister Heydon] ensure that those families are looked after.

    “They are people who cannot afford a gap scheme,” he added.

    ‘Pushing to the limit’ in ACRES

    In response, Minister Heydon asked farmers not to underestimate the challenge it has been to provide extra spaces in a brand new scheme.


    Minister Martin Heydon speaking at the Fine Gael conference on agriculture in Tuam, Co. Galway

    Minister Heydon said: “I’m delighted that 46,000 farmers applied for this. We were told by some people ACRES would be a disaster and that we wouldn’t get 30,000 to apply. This is a nice problem to have.

    “It is a challenge for us. Normally, if you remember AEOS [Agri-Environment Options Scheme] and REPS [Rural Environmental Protection Scheme]… the change-over… there was two or three REPS, not all farmers came out at the one time and AEOS was the same.

    “It is not how you would want it that all farmers end, and it’s just the nature of the two-year transition period you have in the extended CAP [Common Agricultural Policy], that we ended up that every farmer finished in the agri-environmental scheme at the end of last year,” Minister Heydon added.

    The minister of state added that despite it not being ideal, the DAFM is at the “cliff edge” and that it his ambition to “get as many farmers as possible” into the scheme.

    He said the government wants to implement an agri-environment scheme that delivers more for the environment and more money than Green, Low-Carbon, Agri-Environment Scheme (GLAS).

    “We are looking at every possibility inside [DAFM] to make sure that we can facilitate as many of those 46,000 farmers as possible,” Heydon continued.

    “The last thing we want to do is be turning farmers away. Don’t underestimate how challenging that is in a year where we have all new computer schemes set up for everything.

    “We just have to try and manage that and push our officials as hard as we can, and we are. I can reassure you that we are looking under the hood here and making sure that we are pushing this thing to the limit.”

    The minister concluded by telling the gathering of farmers that the department is “very close” to making an announcement on ACRES.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Yes it was rolled over and a large number of non compliant farmers left knowing that the money they got was safe



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭tanko


    Must be the thousandth time you’ve said that, did you get an inspection and lose money or something?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    No never had an inspectio n. Just annoyed that I kept the rules when others got paid for .doing nothing



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Probably best not to worry about what the neighbours are doing



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    I agree but it was what the neighbours were not doing was the problem. must admit I enjoyed storing a bit of sh1t



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭endainoz


    This has been discussed here before, glas was from the old CAP, rolled over or not, it was still part of the old CAP. This new CAP for 2023 doesn't have money allocated for GLAS, it's allocated for ACRES.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Time to let go chief, build a bridge, move on. Holding grudges isn't good for the heart or the head.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    I agree new scheme now let's see what it brings. Imagine Co-Operation among hill farmers will bring it's own fun



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Yeah agreed, if we could start by actually finding out if we got in or not we'd be doing well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭Diarmuid B


    Let’s hope all our planners done the applications correctly!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Good news, one less thing to worry about anyway.

    Full link to the article here:

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/minister-all-valid-acres-applicants-to-be-accepted/



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,453 ✭✭✭✭fits


    big time. There was a mistake in ours but they looked for clarification. Hope that’s it now.



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