MSM

meathman1225 · 20-08-2022 9:32pm #1

Lack of MSM (Men who have sex with men) conversations here. Looking to hear other opinions and experiences

Pissy Missy · 20-08-2022 9:35pm

Lack of sex in general if you ask me

meathman1225 · 20-08-2022 9:41pm

Not in my experience but a distinct lack of open conversations about orientation. Lots seem to not identify as Gay or Bi but just see MSM as something they do occasionally. Like no attraction or emotion. Curious to know others thoughts

L1011 · 20-08-2022 9:54pm

I don't think there's a lot of conversation likely to happen - most MSM that don't identify as gay or bi are unlikely to talk about it much surely?

There would be a value in countering the argument that MSM=closet case, which isn't the case for many; but that's not something that will pop up often.

Beyond that, is there likely to be any conversation?

meathman1225 · 20-08-2022 10:10pm

Well that's what I'm trying to see. Thanks for your input 👍

Liberty_Bear · 22-08-2022 11:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058259682/msm

Its a nice label I think that just ends up stratifying the whole community. Men who have sx with men dont have to have an emotional bond, if you have sex with men and women its bi, if its just men its gay, if its trans and men and women its pansexual etc. My own personal thoughts, minute a bloke says he is straight and has been with lots of other blokes its a roll eyes from me .

AllForIt · 23-08-2022 11:33pm

It was only recently I became aware of the term MSM. I understood it's a catch all term, not an identity. I.e to cover homosexuals, bisexuals and male prostitutes who aren't necessarily gay. Have I left anyone out?

meathman1225 · 24-08-2022 12:25am

Think that's accurate enough in fairness . The not necessarily gay part is the key in the MSM identity if it is an identity at all

meathman1225 · 24-08-2022 12:28am

Is the sex with men and women necessarily bi? That's the crux here . MSM have sex with both but don't identify as gay or bi. We can judge but they can't all be wrong ?

Annasopra · 24-08-2022 7:11pm

To me its a clinical term used by health professionals.

I completely accept though that some self identified cis straight men do have sex with other men

brownej · 31-08-2022 11:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119513375#Comment_119513375

Good luck with that one... There is enough stigma in the LGBTQ community about the legitimacy of identifying as Bi never mind straight but have sex with men.