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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I don't know why anyone would bother their arse being an Admin or Mod volunteering for free and having to put up with whinging and crying from middle aged men acting like toddlers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    I was gobsmacked when I heard they don’t get paid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


     is a thoroughly decent and genuine bloke, 

    I have no doubt he is.

    I don't know Beasty from Adam and don't frequent forums he posts in.

    I'm sure he a grand fella...but there are issues here that need addressing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Yes, how much time you and the sock-puppet master are taking of Beasty’s time.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭DaveCliftonAP


    ...in your opinion. In my opinion, the issues have been addressed with the banning of the 2 biggest troublemakers in CA.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Day 47 in the Big brother House -

    Two housemates are hiding under a duvet together saying don't worry they can't see us therefore were not actually here ,

    In the bathroom one housemate is still looking in the mirror asking mirror , mirror who's the most paranoid poster of them all ,

    House mate beastly is sitting on the couch rocking back and forth mumbling why ,why ,why ,

    House mate Niamh is still hiding in the closet with the light turned off ,

    House mates think there's problems but refuse to recognize they are the actual problem.

    Tune in tomorrow to see more of the madness inside the big brother House



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    One of them appears to be in “Dispute Resolution” diary room trying a different plan of attack.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,727 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No idea. I suggest you ask him.

    We're now at 40 pages of your persecution complex.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,727 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I was tempted to respond with a snappy comment but, seriously, most of the mods here are contributors to specific fora and have been for years and good contributors at that. They clearly care about the forum in question so it makes sense they'd want to care for it and keep it going.

    Not all fora feature the aforementioned middle aged men crying like toddlers but of course some do, namely the political fora, soccer, AH and a few others. It's part of the gig. I wanted to mod Politics because I thought it was important to have a space on the internet that was open to anyone willing to post constructively and honestly instead of the social media habit of dumping memes and soapboxing for likes.

    The manchildren do wear one down though. I've had no end of scripted responses accusing me of being a libertarian, a communist, a racist, a member of the far right, a Nazi, a socialist and the son of whoever murdered Jean McConville. This tedium is part of the territory as stated. The problem now is that virtually all modding tools are gone so modding feels like an exercise in futility now. We've had a year and there's been no improvement on the modding front whatsoever. I've had to siteban specific trolls but there's no record of who did that so I ended up stepping on an admin's toes. To be fair, it was my fault but it's also what convinced me that it's not worth it anymore.

    A shame but one's time is precious. If the powers that be are going to dump everything on a few unpaid volunteers while doing very little if anything to restore features that were here 18 months ago then I'm honestly surprised that any mods remain.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    I am getting a headache from reading this thread, you can imagine how the mods feel..


    I think we should all buy Beasty a couple of pints!!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭blackbox


    This a great thread. It is occupying people who could be wasting their time elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,305 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    It's possible to acknowledge the wildly inconsistent ad biased modding of the site and also the existence of a group of shinnerbots and sock-puppets that have been let away with gaslighting the site and ruining threads for years



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    And the wagons circle a bit tighter.

    It may be a persecution complex but here is what I think happened.

    I think there is some facility in Boards where PM traffic can be seen. That Beasty etc has a way to see who is talking to who. He may not be able to access the content of those PM's or maybe has decided that is a step too far.

    But somehow he knew there was contact and he assumed it was for the purpose that he has made his allegations on.

    Oh, and it's pretty clear that some of you are discussing things behind the scenes

    In what was a heated exchange he let that slip and is trying to cover by dog whistling in a mob(who are as responsible for the '40 pages' as anyone else) whom he knows will put two and two together as well (they already have) and rally to his support. Look at his first two posts here...for whose benefit were they?

    He is directing those posts, not to the OP or me, but to those who have been piling on since. These are 'defensive posts' and his dogwhistling later in the thread over the 'evidence' should also be noted.

    It is clear to me that a number of posters have been discussing how to challenge moderation behind the scenes. And yes the prime culprits have already posted in this thread backing each other up. I'm pretty confident the pair of them agreed to start this thread in Feedback


    And just to add, whenever either of them do pick up a sanction or even a nil point warning the Pm exchanges are very lengthy. Typically running to over a dozen messages. They are complete timesinks who believe only their views matter

    He isn't a government shill or in cahoots with this mob, he just needs them at the moment. In fairness, you have to admit they are doing a stellar job at trying to bully a lot of posters experiencing issues with moderation, off the thread.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,727 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Except this is nonsense. I've seen far too many threads where the same suspects pile in with their nonsense and their victimhood narratives. There's no conspiracy. It's as prosaic as some people lacking maturity.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    you haven't a clue. They were given a six week siteban because it happened years ago but was only discovered recently. There are plenty here than can confirm it. There was a whole thread about it in helpdesk. The ones who thanked your post @Dempo1 @Quantum Erasure and @skimpydoo are equally as uninformed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nice one...job done with the insinuations and stereotyping.

    I assume you are lumping me in as a 'manchild'. Fine, have at it.

    But can you confirm here please that I have had no hand, part or act in doing the following:

    The manchildren do wear one down though. I've had no end of scripted responses accusing me of being a libertarian, a communist, a racist, a member of the far right, a Nazi, a socialist and the son of whoever murdered Jean McConville. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    "circle the wagons" is one of the catch phrases used

    Along with "kite flying"

    Seemingly a new one this week is "dog whistling"

    Once a new catch phrase is deployed all posters involved have to use at every situation possible, relevant or not



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    when the value of a click is exceeded by the cost of moderating that click then you are no longer a valued customer but a nuisance. a timesink if you will.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Sounds like you have too much time on your hands to come up with conspiracies

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    In fairness, there have been some fair amount of 'conspiracies' coming my way over the years. Beasty's allegations being the latest.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Or maybe he just surmised there was coordination because you were the first poster to respond to the thread.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,727 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I've 4-5 posts on this 40-page abomination. Wonder if I'm one of them.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I'm afraid the allegation came long before the thread opened.

    Beasty made his allegation by PM on Aug 22th

    The thread opened on the 26th.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    that's fair enough. the stuff about beasty reading PMs is just paranoia. He has already confirmed he does not have access to PMs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What do you mean 'it's fair enough'?

    You were wrong, totally wrong in your view. That suggests to me you don't have enough information to make any judgements.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Can you address the clarification I sought there Ancap, before you go?



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    by "Its fair enough" I meant that beasty could not have surmised you were coordinating with Brucie because you posted the first reply on the thread. I was acknowledging that I was incorrect in what I said. But you stuck to the paranoia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,842 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What paranoia?

    You were wrong and you need to realise you may be wrong about other stuff. So stop making quasi factual statements about what may or may not have happened here?

    Is that a reasonable unparanoid request or not?



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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A commonality in approach

    In August alone I was engaged with the pair of you extensively via PM. The tones of those PMs was telling. In one case the total number of PMs (including my own responses) was 58, in the other case 39. To put if frankly, I suspected something was brewing between the pair of you



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