Attempting to destroy famous paintings because fossil fuels

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790667#Comment_119790667

So you're blaming the Green party for Ireland having no nuclear power because Just Stop Oil are defacing art? Hard to follow you.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790693#Comment_119790693

Acceptance of the planet being finite is not unscientific.

Energy mostly comes from co2 producing fossil fuels but it doesn’t have to, especially since we have thousands of years of fissionable materials

Yet the greens are on a **** crusade against nuclear power and think outsourcing and greenwashing energy use to China and other countries with whom we share planet will solve climate change

This is what you said - are you blaming the Green party in Ireland for us not having nuclear power? Would you not be better off blaming the people who were actually in charge?

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790628#Comment_119790628

I am sure that you are not suggesting that people are prioritising potential damage to glass covering a painting to the destruction of the plannet we are living on?

That would be to suggest that they are beyond stupid.

are you suggesting that they are climate deniers?????

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790663#Comment_119790663

Have you heard of capacators or electricity storage technology - Maybe you should get on to the people who did the studies and ask them if they factored in everything or they forgot about that particular technology🤣

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790741#Comment_119790741

Are you suggesting that we destroy all art?

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790739#Comment_119790739

if nuclear is such a panacea why wasn't it built years ago? why aren't SF promising nuclear? surely you can't be blaming lack of nuclear on Eamon Ryan being minister for 2 years?

and yeah, it's a proper cult because they think more should be invested in public transport and active travel instead of designing the whole country around the private car.

Get your f**king head checked man.

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790751#Comment_119790751

Eh No - I am not suggesting that?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790757#Comment_119790757

And yet you're happy to pretend posters here are part of the fossil fuel lobby.

AckwelFoley

I think it's a great idea. Draws attention to the problem. But I just think it's misdirected. Europe are turning the screw and cutting emissions.

I think they should go to China and throw paint on some paintings in their galleries.

Report back lads. Let me know what the food in prison is like.

We're well aware of the climate issues. Idle little pricks like these aren't helping the cause

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790768#Comment_119790768

I am not sure how you "pretend" someone else is part of something?

If you wish to be their spokesman maybe you could suggest why people appear to be standing up for fossil fuel companies

remembering that on one side of the arguement you have the proven slow destruction of the plannet we live on for no good reason

and on the other side you have potential damage to glass?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790784#Comment_119790784

That didn't stop you doing it above.

How has this advanced the green agenda? With proof please.

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790787#Comment_119790787

Please take the time to read the link to the studdies conducted

They DO appear to have taken everything into account

again if they are wrong and you are an expert of equal standing and conducted research

please contact them and get the conclusions adjusted

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790741#Comment_119790741

Where did I say any of that?

You can be abhorred by people defacing artwork and also have a problem with the world's consumption of CO2.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790798#Comment_119790798

I see that you have avoided my question

however - This is how it has advanced the green agenda

people are talking about it , people are discussing the issues, people are questioning things that were taken for granted

like for example Many presumed that sticking with fossel fuels would save money and did not realise that renewables are cheaper and that we dont need to destroy the plannet to keep the lights on

Now its your turn.

How do you suggest that the problem of the destruction of the plannet would be better addressed?????

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790794#Comment_119790794

You're blaming Greenpeace for ireland not having nuclear? Will you get a f#cking grip!

Why is ireland so influenced by Greenpeace but not our Euro neighbours who have nuclear?

Dear oh dear...

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790829#Comment_119790829

You're suggesting that nobody was discussing climate change before the Sunflowers incident. Seriously.

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790808#Comment_119790808

These people are potentially damaging the glass in front of the paintings in order to draw attention to the destruction of the plannet - they are doing it because they feel that people are not addressing the impending disaster (have you seen Dont Look up) similar thing.

What would you suggest as a better way to address this impending disaster other than these methods being used?

assuming that you agree that it is important to protect the plannet for future generations?

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790842#Comment_119790842

I am suggesting that you are contributing nothing to the topic but questions

last time

How do you suggest that the impending disaster be better addressed? - with examples please

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790860#Comment_119790860

Answer my question first, please.

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119788963#Comment_119788963

How many die in China and Japan where the real problems are? How many paintings have been targeted in either country?

I'm all for protecting the planet and having a better future for our grandchildren but I find some of these protests just childish and people trying to show that they're woke really annoying.

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790865#Comment_119790865

I have done - with an example

You are starting to look stupid

now answer mine

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790894#Comment_119790894

No, you didn't. You suggested that nobody was discussing climate change until the Sunflowers incident. That's beyond stupid.

Let's leave it there. This is pointless.

mufflets2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790897#Comment_119790897

🤣😂 Ya - That probably best🤣😂

B.A._Baracus

Just attention seekers. Probably oddballs or living in their head.

One thing that does annoy me is where is the connection? Like if people who are against fur target a store that sells fur or a factory that makes it, ok I get the connection. You're still dumb but ok. Throwing mash potato on a painting is just pure attention seeking. But they spin it as you have to get peoples attention. Urgh

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790877#Comment_119790877

The real problems are here though, in Europe. Half a billion of the largest consumers in the world contributing greatly to climate change by being heavy fossil fuel users.

Why wouldn't they protest in their own countries if they want to see change? People marched worldwide against various wars the US was involved in, they didn't have to go to Washington to do it.

Anyway as you know you'd be thrown in jail if you attempted anything in China so why would they go there to do that? If you're concerned about China, don't buy anything that has been made there in one of their factories.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790926#Comment_119790926

they sprayed down an oil lobby building in London today with paint, is that ok?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790926#Comment_119790926

Oil --> oil paintings.

Flawed logic, i know, but they aren't known for their intellectual prowess.

redoctober

What about this: I think those who are involved in such protests should start closer to home. Stop using all products that damage the environment with immediate effect. Clothes - jeans for example made using cheap labour and tonnes of water. Plastic clothing. All oil based products - plastic of any kind. Mobile phones - straight in the bin. Electric cars - all components made using oil - and large wasteful manufacturing processes must be binned. All factory processed foods....on and on it goes. Once those protestors have made the necessary adjustments to their own lives, then and only then get back to us with their views on whether it's right to throw stuff at priceless art which can't be re-created. Same goes for all who support them.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790969#Comment_119790969

I said we are among the biggest consumers in the world, are we not? China has almost 3 times the EU's population so that graph makes sense.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790981#Comment_119790981

What an original take! Like no one ever says this in every bloody discussion on climate change and consumption! Like you'd take them more seriously if they only lived in mudhuts and rejected all technology?

And yet again we have to churn out the same bloody comic...