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Pubs and Clubs to get longer opening hours

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    #392
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Find it funny that the same people who are arguing that this will lead to doomsday, are providing anecdotes from people who believe there isn’t a market for it

    If there’s no market for it, then there won’t be any issues



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    #393
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848382#Comment_119848382

    A consultative process where only one lobby group/side gets listened to - as per usual in Ireland.

    If you believe that the measures posed will help the nighttime economy then it means you believe it will lead to an overall increase in consumption.

    If you believe that it means consumption will remain flat and be consumed over a longer period of time, then the changes will result in increased overhead and losses for publicans. So that there is obviously the big lie. Operators need an increase in overall consumption to offset the higher cost of operating longer.

    So if very late bars become part of the expectation, it will be a necessity to operate into the early hours. That will mean fewer venues, rather ironically will survive.

    The economics of the change are very questionable and the health grounds do not hold water - at all.



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    #394
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848197#Comment_119848197

    Others have responded to most of these points. But, serious question, why do you hate nightclubs so much?



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    #395
    L1011
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849143#Comment_119849143

    Displacement of consumption (from after parties etc) does not increase consumption.



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    #396
    MrMusician18
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849189#Comment_119849189

    It won't result in displacement of home consumption. That bag of cans will just be drunk at another time - either before, with longer later pre-parties or the following day.

    I just don't see how it makes clubs and bars more viable without it increasing the consumption of the shrinking demographics they serve. Which is obviously contrary to public health goals.



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    #397
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 29,513 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849273#Comment_119849273

    The nightclubs would have to start charging more in for entry, treat it as a mini gig, rather than trying to make everything from the bar.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #398
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    It's funny how most people who have issues with this are not exactly the target demographic for nightclubs at all...


    It's not going to effect them either!



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    #399
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849742#Comment_119849742

    What is the target demographic?



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    #400
    Dodge
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849816#Comment_119849816

    People who have better things to be be doing than post on boards.ie



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    #401
    growleaves
    Registered Users Posts: 7,857 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849816#Comment_119849816

    People who go out? Tourists and anyone under 40.

    They have late night places all over Europe. Why must Ireland be a 'sleepy town'?

    Concerned citizens like yourself must have other issues to worry about.



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    #402
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849816#Comment_119849816

    I would have thought a musician such as yourself would have an idea?


    I'm guessing 20 - 50 mainly?


    You are never too old to stay out late the odd time here and there....



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    #403
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Shur most of the daycent nightclubs are closed now anyway.



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    #404
    Jackben75
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    lived in many places where this is the norm. It is the way to go, easier to get a taxi too. Novelty at first of course but that will soon wear off. Not all pubs and even clubs will avail of it but the choice is also theirs. Less people on the street together. Good move



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    #405
    Beechwoodspark
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    I suppose all the trendy arrsehole DJs think ppl will be oohing and aahing over their impeccable taste dj sets with oh so rare cologne accordion trance

    rather than temple bar style super pubs blasting out Venga Boys and packed to the rafters with extremely drunk and disorderly idiots until 6 Am.

    Madness.

    Post edited by Beechwoodspark on


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    #406
    Thelonious Monk
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    This website is just become a cliche of itself. Yet here I am :(



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    #407
    Gusser09
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    FFS. Vinters and Publicans are a cartel.

    Firstly they help impose MUP and now they can sell drink at above the odds for longer.



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    #408
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    I think the major problem for most with be antisocial behavior later into the night and the majority of pubs during Covid extended outdoors into beer gardens and the streets. The pub near us was an old mans pub in a residential area, they turned the outside into a beer garden with a DJ booth and now we have loud music until 12:30 most nights and if the opening hours are extended I'm sure we will have it later into the night. I have no problem with somebody enjoying a drink later into the night if that's what people want but greater controls over noise and antisocial issues need to be implemented at the same time.



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    #409
    Allinall
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574098#Comment_120574098

    There’s one big issue they have.

    They are relying on people to buy drink at above the odds.



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    #410
    elperello
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    Funny how Alcohol Action Ireland and the publicans were on the same page when it came Minimum Unit Pricing.

    They succeeded in making our home drinks more expensive, I wonder who will win this one ?

    My money is on the publicans.



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    #411
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574181#Comment_120574181

    Have you and/or others in the area objected to their licence?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #412
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    When is the change coming in?



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    #413
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120575175#Comment_120575175

    A neighbour with young children who's property backs onto the pub has. He attends court every time the licence is up for renewal.

    All the neighbours provided evidence of the ongoing disturbance in court. That wasn't enough for the judge. Professional sound monitoring was performed by the neighbour that shows the sound levels in his back garden are damaging to hearing. The beer garden is not covered by the licence and they serve drink there, the pub has noise limits accociated with it planning that are exceeded. According to the judge that's not enough to suspend or place restrictions on the licence. The publican installed sound monitoring equipment in a private estate and hug sound monitoring equipment over the pubs wall into people's back gardens without permission.

    The beer garden doesn't meet fire safety standards as there is no fire escape and they built a large covered structure in the beer garden without planning permission. Council and fire department are not interested in enforcement.

    It's an expensive process that has been ongoing since just before covid. The owner is on the local council and acts with impunity. The neighbour had to hire a barrister from Dublin as nobody in the county or neighbouring counties would go up against a Councillor.



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    #414
    munsterdevil
    Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭munsterdevil


    Anyone know when this is coming into law?

    it doesn’t seem to have been spoken about since.



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    #415
    Pauliedragon
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    I can only speak for Cork but I can't see many places if any opting to stay open that late. They can hardley get staff to work as it stands with 2am closing. 6am forget it. That means finishing work at 7am. No chance. I did those hours when I managed pubs abroad but the money made it worth it. No chance here.



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    #416
    Strumms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574181#Comment_120574181

    That’s a problem

    my local has a mix of younger and older folks with slightly more of an older demographic and is at a small gathering of retail and food establishments and embedded in a residential area.

    is a nice clientele but who knows now… I’ve a feeling that they might keep hours as they are with maybe Thursday just extended.

    the bar is full of older regulars, be empty by midnight and always close to being on Saturday.



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    #417
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574235#Comment_120574235

    Exactly wheres the outcry and rage from our betters on this one.

    Alcohol is bad mmmmmmkayyy



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    #418
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,691 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585643#Comment_120585643

    So you don't want it therefore nobody in Ireland should have it.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #419
    munsterdevil
    Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭munsterdevil


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120586126#Comment_120586126

    Not everyone works Monday to Friday



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    #420
    BagofWeed
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    The land o' no craic claims another victim. Dublin nightclub announces closure due to ‘unviable’ night-time economy | Independent.ie



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    #421
    munsterdevil
    Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭munsterdevil


    Finally a bit of movement: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/taoiseach-pushes-mcentee-to-get-pub-and-club-late-night-opening-bill-moving/a604415103.html#:~:text=The%20bill%20will%20enable%20bars,this%20area%20were%20%E2%80%9Carchaic%E2%80%9D.



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