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growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122667384#Comment_122667384

Curtis Jackson, unlike others, isn't just complaining about his Combs' predatory and violent tendencies though.

He is ridiculing him as a homosexual.

Suckler

Anything Christmas related sold before late November should have a 150% tax applied to it.

Anything Christmas related sold before Halloween should have a 250% tax applied to it.

Tesco had Christmas stuff out in mid September FFS.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122668038#Comment_122668038

When aisling Murphy was murdered, media here were making up stories about the new bogeyman imported from the States, the incel. Not a "cuddly" married man with kids.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122668213#Comment_122668213

Homophobia and misogyny was always part of the hip hop "culture", I don't see anything special here.

89897

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122670923#Comment_122670923

There are world wide examples of where these incel types are dangerous to women but it doest take away from the fact the majority of dangers to women come from men they already know.

z80CPU

Growing number of Millenials and Gen Z who, rather than create and foster business and family / friend relationships think like this

The other party's face is mentally thought of as another " button " on a console

( like a hashtag ) which is pressed when they need to talk to or do business with.

CliffHangeroner

Happy clappy family types who set up a YouTube channel and then put every other thing they do on it should be tarred and feathered.

Oasis are absolutely sh it.

FG and FF have actually done an outstanding job of running the country over the last decade or so and i say that as someone who used to vote SF for years.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122671059#Comment_122671059

Yeah both things are probably true. Bit like noting that people who drive cars are way more likely to be in a traffic accident than those who don't.

It's the difference between total and relative numbers. There are a small percentage of men who harm their partner, but that's a small percentage of a large set of all men in relationships.

The incel lads are sad and some are dangerous. But they're a small set of people. I'd believe that the incels are a greater risk on an individual level, but men in relationships are a bigger group so a small percentage of them would cause far more harm.

I feel sorry for the incel lads*. Miserable life, not being able to find friendship and relationships.

*Not to excuse any of the harm some of them cause.

89897

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122671749#Comment_122671749

Im not saying your wrong and I certainly dont know of any stats that specifially call out incels or those identifying as incels however id argue in terms of whos more dangerous to women it has to be looked at in terms of exposure. Its much easier to never be around an incel than it is a partner, ex or man known to you.

The numbers on abuse are there, 1 in 4 women in Ireland and 1 in 3 women worldwide will experience some sort of abuse from a current or former partner.

I do also feel sorry for some of these people as it often coming from poor mental health or an unaccommodated neurodiversity.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672627#Comment_122672627

1 in 4 is a huge proportion. Presumably that's a smaller proportion of men who abuse multiple partners over their life than 1 in 4 men. But even if it's 1 in 10 or 15 men (finger in the air stats) then it's still a high proportion.

The incel lads are a sad case. Lots of it is probably neuro divergence. Whatever the cause, if the result is them being unpleasant to be around, then that's it.

I listened to a few podcasts interviewing them and it sounds like they're horrible to each other too. Even in their 'community' they're not at all supportive. They're generally not a likeable bunch.

KeithKelly1992

My elderly and frail neighbour was intimidated by travellers. They offered a power wash and forced their way into the hall door when he refused.

Luckily his son, a very formidable man, was in the house who sent them packing. His son luckily lives with his wife and his equally formidable sons who are late teens / early 20’s.

Travellers are a blight on society and nothing is being done. My parents live less than 1 km from me. I will do a Nally job if they even set foot in the garden.

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672882#Comment_122672882

Well that's a strange post.

How many partners do you have and what does their proximity to your house got to do with the fact that you claim you would kill a traveller if they stepped into your garden?

For someone who wants to be a teacher, it mightn't be the greatest look.

Would you class yourself as "formidable"?

KeithKelly1992

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672963#Comment_122672963

Read my post again.

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672978#Comment_122672978

I did.

"My partners live less than 1 km from me. I will do a Nally job if they even set foot in the garden"

What has the fact that your (multiple?) partners live less than a kilometer from you got to do with you inferring you would shoot a traveller for setting foot in your garden?

KeithKelly1992

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672992#Comment_122672992

I meant to say parents. Autocorrect typo. I would’ve thought it was obvious from context, but whatever.

And yes, I will wipe out anyone trying to rob my parents. Esp knackers.

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122673029#Comment_122673029

I remember my first beer….

cms88

Personally i'm delighted to see the ''Irish'' club Celtic getting their arses handed to them tonight. A very unlikable fan base who'll have very little to say for themselves.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672992#Comment_122672992

Usual Internet hard man poster. 99.9% certain he has nothing to shoot anyone with.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122673913#Comment_122673913

I've very little interest in the soccerball but I'm from Donegal and caught quite a bit of flak growing up for not supporting my "local team". It's not local if you've to get on a plane or a boat, ffs.

ThePentagon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122582685#Comment_122582685

Punishing kids for being left-handed was a pretty common practice worldwide back in the day, not just an Irish thing. Crazy when you think about it

L Grey

Country people are basically travellers.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122678675#Comment_122678675

Was it common in other religions or mostly a Catholic or Christian practice?

Charlo30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122678831#Comment_122678831

In parts of the Sub Continent it was deemed unlucky to be left handed. So kids were often forced to use their right hands. But I think that was more for cultural reasons then religious

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122678715#Comment_122678715

Funny, I'd have said urban dwellers would be closer in character.

cms88

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122676782#Comment_122676782

Irish Celtic fans are the worst. They justify Celtic as an ''Irish'' club because they were set up to help Irish people etc Yet Hibs were set up for something long the same lines yet we don't see huge support for them in Ireland.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122678715#Comment_122678715

They’d be a subset of country folk, like townie etc, but they’re not necessarily the same.

Jack Daw

I've been travelling around europe for the last couple of weeks and one thing I noticed (much more than I would in Ireland as I don't be walking around cities in Ireland) is the amount of Muslim men who wear modern clothes like I do (jeans and t-shirt) and they're walking beside their wives who are covered with long clothing and a hijab.

It really is disgraceful the lack of respect this shows to these women and it's quite clear that if there wasn't social and familial pressure to be like this that those women would clearly dress the way most women dress.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122679552#Comment_122679552

Better marketing?

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689570#Comment_122689570

More success I would argue.

The clubs that Irish people support in big numbers tend to be Celtic, Man Utd and Liverpool.

It is not a coincidence that those clubs tended to win all the time.

If people want to support them that's absolutely fine just don't be pretending it's out of some sort of patriotism.

You always hear gobshites arguing "they're the catholic/Irish club in the city that's why I support them"

A guy I work with in his early 20's supports Man City which means coincidentally he would have started supporting them when they started becoming successful , which is absolutely fine just don't be pretending that isn't the reason people support these clubs.

spacetweek

Most of these women don’t feel oppressed. When something is your culture you usually see it as normal and go along with it.

Even more so when you’ve moved abroad and are living in Europe or somewhere non-Muslim. Then, you feel the need to assert your culture even more, due to a perception that you might lose it.

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689922#Comment_122689922

Which is even worse as it's means they've essentially been brainwashed into thinking this is normal.

When women from a Muslim background become secular they tend to dress like other Western women, they never seem to end up choosing 100% by themselves to cover up.

It's also the power imbalance that is wrong, Muslim man can dress as he wants, muslim woman must conform to old fashioned backward ideas.

Photobox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689565#Comment_122689565

See it in my local park all the time in Ireland. In the summer time, men are in t-shirts and shorts and the women are all covered up..

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689922#Comment_122689922

It's like Irish people emigrating to the US years ago, they didn't magically become integrated liberal minded people. They were clannish, banded together, used the existing Irish American networks, and like back home, did whatever the priest told them to, get married, make babies and mind the house. To some extent that still happens though not as important as they once were.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690157#Comment_122690157

Another thing is that as societies/cultures modernize one of the first places it becomes more noticeable is with women; how they dress, having a role outside of being a stay at home mother etc.

Enforcing old traditions can be seen as a way of halting this progress.

Joe286

I really think people who are badly dressed should be turned away more from public places.

Joe286

Multiple sexualties are a ton of manure. You have homosexuality, hetro sexuality, bisexuality. No interest (perhaps)

Beyond that **** off. Get a life

gormdubhgorm

I don't know am I allowed to say this (mod can delete if so).

But I think Irish people should be supporting Israel. Ireland had a vibrant Jewish community historically. Some of the Israel PM's had Irish connections, and I believe at least one was born in Dublin. Opressed people discriminated against, who are rightly fighting back. I honestly don't understand how many Irish people wrap the Palestine flag around them at matches etc as it it some how makes them more "Irish". Such people need to learn the history between Ireland and Israel.

Joe286

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690777#Comment_122690777

I tend to agree. You'd think the Palestinians are the only oppressed people on the planet. Nobody gives a flying **** about the Chinese Muslims or Syrians

Joe286

Muslim women should be banned from wearing the full face covering. I saw one last week. With just the slits. Ridiculous.

In Ireland

Greyfox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690777#Comment_122690777

Sounds like you know very little about what's actually happening over there

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690825#Comment_122690825

Oh on the contrary I do. You should read this.

https://www.irishacademicpress.ie/product/ireland-and-the-palestine-question-1948-2004/

A lot of uncomfortable truths for you. I would say.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690777#Comment_122690777

Or maybe it’s not as simplistic as taking sides. It’s one thing to have people having a homeland after suffering oppression everywhere they went, but to expand based on old stories is another.

Maybe Ireland can claim the the land. After all the Milesians were descended from Noah’s grandson. Ancestral claim here we come.

cms88

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689642#Comment_122689642

The ironic thing is Liverpool were founded by a member of the Orange Order! But of course many have this Liverpool isn't England idea as a way to justify it.

castletownman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689565#Comment_122689565

Its the Irish/British, general western society women that marry into that culture and conform to it that are worse.

They know what they are signing up to, the signs are there, yet are so oppressed that they can't open their front door without applying their hijab first. Mental jobs as far as I'm concerned.

At least those born into that culture have no other choice more or less.

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690965#Comment_122690965

One thing that always annoys me about Liverpool is the media here almost have an expectation that people should be sympathetic to them as a club (by virtue of their being loads of Irish people emigrating there, although I imagine far more emigrated to Birmingham and London over the years) and then they blab on about how "Liverpool isn't really England , look at how they don't sing the national anthem" as if people in Ireland should give a toss about English internal matters.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689642#Comment_122689642

Very few Irish man united fans around these days. They all claim to no longer follow “the English premier league” now, too commercial and soulless.

This has been a boon for the League of Ireland as most of these fickle, fair weather, ex-fans have taken up supporting Bohs, or Shamrock Rovers. Not sure Bohs will keep them if they continue in the form they’re in but maybe the sideshow of “crowd trouble” will keep them entertained.

PTH2009

How is Ice Hockey so big in the UK ?

Saw a pic of Belfasts Arena and was wondering it. Surely it's semi professional ?

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122691366#Comment_122691366

I have friends in Belfast who say its a new sport so it doesn't have a sectarian history. So that's one reason why it attracts people in Belfast.

I went to Whitley Bay Warriors a few times and it's a good evening out. I don't begrudge the fans who actually understand and follow it.

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122691366#Comment_122691366

Average salary appears to be around 40k per annum.

Be great if they added a team in Dublin , you'd think there would be a market for it with Dublin and the surrounding areas having a population of around 2 million they'd surely be able to get 3 or 4 thousand per match if it was marketed properly.

It's a good sport to watch live, fun fast and exciting.

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690891#Comment_122690891

Fair point but there has been a lot more Jewish connection historically to Ireland than the Arabs. It is only in very recent history that it has become trendy for Irish people to do a 180 degree on it.

The Jewish history in Ireland goes back 100's of years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIopK1YC6Y

I just feel that logically looking at history future back than the last 50 years Irish people should have more connection with Israel than Palestinian's. Personally I would not wrap a foreign flag around me to show support of another nation. I find it odd. But I think Irish people who wrap the Palestinian flag around them, should at least learn Irish/Jewish history.

There was a bit in the above video which states that Lionel de Rothschild (A Jew) donated handsomely for Relief in an Gorta Mór.

How many Irish people are aware of that today?

https://historyireland.com/lionel-de-rothschild-and-the-great-irish-famine/

That is before we get into the Jews in Ireland role in Irish independence and politics etc.