Administrative Officer (graduate) (general) 2022 civil service

Sinradler · 29-03-2023 1:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120415680#Comment_120415680

I'm 95% sure that 'primary' refers to the degree, ie a primary degree being a Bachelor's rather than a Master's, so a 2.2 would be fine. You can always ring or email graduate@publicjobs.ie and check. Until you are actually being pre-checked for a job, PAS don't check qualifications, so the onus is on you to make sure you ARE qualified.

On another note (and I know this is unasked for advice so I'm going to apologise and do it anyway), unless your mental health is suffering terribly, or you are certain you're going to fail, I would suggest not dropping out of your Master's - it's only another six months (with presumably only another couple of months of classes) and you can always defer things if you are struggling - I deferred my Master's thesis for six months and graduated the following year without detriment. It'll fly in either way. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

Cocopup · 29-03-2023 2:28pm

Has anyone applied for the 2023 AO in civil service? Is there a thread for it

I just got email to say my OOM for it, said the first batch of 28 will be caled for interview and presentation next month

BigElmo · 29-03-2023 2:48pm

Which stream

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120416144#Comment_120416144

Which streams?

madbeanman · 29-03-2023 4:50pm

Had an interview for AO a couple of weeks back and I was really thrown by it.

I’ve had lots of interviews in the past and I am a huuuuge talker, super energetic, lots of examples and a certain person on a certain day could consider my presentation to be a little too much. But I’ve never had a bad interview experience. I can get nervous and I of course I have not been chosen for one position before (after interview 5!) but I generally feel like I perform well.

Let me tell you that this was not my experience a couple of weeks back. One of the interviewers was borderline hostile. I gave what I thought was a fairly good response to a question and he cut over me and said that he was asking a different question. I apologised and rephrased and then I had barely three words out of my mouth and he shouted me down and said “An example!” He then seemed to understand he’d overstepped the mark and said “We aren’t given a lot of time. We don’t have time” (it was the longest interview of my life fyi) I revised all my answers to short sentences very targeted and home boy still wasn’t having it, jumping in, sighing and being gross.

If I was waffling and hanging myself , let me and have it as a reason not to hire me but I think modelling toxic work practices in an interview is not a good idea. I think he could tell I was pissed off by the end because he seemed to back off kind of but a smile never graced his face.

All in all I think you count me out of the running :D

29-03-2023 7:59pm

I applied for the 2023 AO competition myself, I finished less than 5 spots outside the number of people they are calling forward in batch 1 for the HR stream. Here’s hoping they’ll be calling a second batch. A new thread mightn’t be a bad idea. Does anyone know how many people they called forward last year for each stream?

Juggler101 · 29-03-2023 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120416757#Comment_120416757

OMG, that sounds desperate! Some people have zero interview skills and it really bugs me how much power they have in an interview :-(

OKDublin · 30-03-2023 1:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120416757#Comment_120416757

It's actually unfair unless all panels do this - which I doubt they do. The interviews are time limited and people have to get as many KPIs into their answers as possible. If someone interrupts and puts you off, you'll lose marks. However, as I said, if other people get panels who let them talk without interruption they can demonstrate their KPIs without hindrance and therefore get higher marks.

OKDublin · 30-03-2023 1:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120416757#Comment_120416757

The whole purpose of a competency interview is that it is supposed to be fair.

Leyendecker · 02-04-2023 4:29pm

How long is the wait between interviewing and hearing how you faired in your interviewed does anyone know?

OrangeOctopus · 03-04-2023 11:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431936#Comment_120431936

I got my results two weeks after my interview. Your mileage may vary, since it would probably depend on how long it takes the interview board members to return their results and documents relevant to the interviews to PAS.

05-04-2023 2:08pm

I’ve been called for interview/presentation for the 2023 HR Stream. Anyone have any tips in relation to the presentation?

madbeanman · 05-04-2023 2:18pm

Got my results from the interview back (Batch 3) and I passed but my score from the section of the interview with the unfortunate interviewer was much worse that the other sections.

Anyways between 10 and 20 on OOM. Dunno what that means or if I would be called.

Stoptheworldandletmeoff · 05-04-2023 3:40pm

Stay in your masters do the interview, you won't be assigned until late September at the earliest I belive, by then send on your masters degree and not your B.A

OKDublin · 05-04-2023 7:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120444134#Comment_120444134

I think you need to create a new thread for that or it will be removed. This is a thread for "general".

madbeanman · 06-04-2023 12:27pm

Im a bit concerned about the skills assessment. I dont really have experience in any of the fields listed on it.

newbie18892 · 06-04-2023 3:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120447663#Comment_120447663

I was honest on mine that none of the areas really applied and i got placed regardless in a department i'm happy with.

mcg_philip · 08-04-2023 10:12am

Would anyone be able to give an indication of presentation topics? Also, how is the competency-based interview overall? Does it follow a similar pattern to standard?

OrangeOctopus · 08-04-2023 11:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120454013#Comment_120454013

For the competency based interview, read through the 6 AO competencies in the link at the bottom of my comment. Look at page 3, think of an example you have from your own experience for each of the 6 competencies that touches on each of the performance indicators mentioned. If you've done any competency based interviews for the civil service before, the interview didn't feel any different from any other one I've done.

Hope this advice helps.

https://www.publicjobs.ie/documents/Administrative_Officer_Competencies.pdf)

mcg_philip · 11-04-2023 6:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120454170#Comment_120454170

Thanks for this. Yes, I have done multiple competency based interviews before so happy to hear the AO interview is similar. Would be grateful if anyone has an indication as to how the presentation element works (and how it interacts with the interview) as part of the overall process.

apkmbarry · 11-04-2023 10:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120466326#Comment_120466326

The presentation is seperate in terms of marking, but your interview will take place directly after it.

OKDublin · 11-04-2023 10:13pm

OOM: where are they at?

Any information on how far they have got up to in interviewing for Dublin? Last mention of this was that they'd got up to 233. Has this moved on now?

mcg_philip · 13-04-2023 11:22am

I emailed PAS yesterday and they are still at 233 in terms of overall numbers called.

truespark · 14-04-2023 3:13pm

Hello, just wondering does anyone on here have any idea of approx. how high up the OOM list they call for AO competitions? Or how long this competition is open for before the next one starts? Thanks 😊

aqwerty · 14-04-2023 4:06pm

Have an interview coming up for the 2023 AO Business and Finance stream. Different competition I know, but there will be a section asking specialist questions on my knowledge of business and finance. In the 2022 interviews did anything similar come up? Would be very helpful if anyone here has some examples of what was asked, thanks.

OKDublin · 14-04-2023 4:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478053#Comment_120478053

It would be better to set up your own thread. I know it's related, but it's just that there is no search functionality within threads (that I know of). I'm sure I am not the only one who tries to read back previous posts before asking a question. When people post off-topic it makes the job of reading through all the old posts more time consuming.

PhoenixParker · 14-04-2023 7:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478053#Comment_120478053

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478251#Comment_120478251

There's another thread already here:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058291282/administrative-officer-specialist-streams-2023

aqwerty · 14-04-2023 7:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478251#Comment_120478251

Fair enough, I'll add to the 2023 specialist thread. I figured it's unlikely anyone with prior experience from the 2022 competition would be clicking into the 2023 thread.

apkmbarry · 15-04-2023 4:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120478709#Comment_120478709

I'm sure there will be people from the last specialist AO thread competing this time around too.

the5th · 17-04-2023 9:04am

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mcg_philip · 17-04-2023 2:14pm

Thanks again. Just wondering if anyone can give a sense of the presentation topics assigned.

madbeanman · 20-04-2023 12:14pm

Was asked to prove educational qualification. I really find the whole process a bit opaque. Just offer me a job already :D

kb1234 · 21-04-2023 3:23am

Hello,

I have been placed on a panel for batch 3, my order of merit is 25. I was wondering if anyone has any idea of when I might be called? I currently live in Japan and am hoping to stay here til early next year. I understand you can't defer if they offer you something, so I'm hoping that they won't offer me anything for a long time...

any insight would be appreciated!

kb1234 · 21-04-2023 3:24am

The topics I was given a choice from were on the environment, on rural Irish tourism and on AI. You've to pick one

Wolfskuil · 24-04-2023 4:51pm

Just got EOI for interviews in late May - early June. Was in early 300s on panel.

timetime21 · 24-04-2023 7:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120362788#Comment_120362788

I just want to say that I have read a few of your comments and those experiences you outline are awful, I am so sorry you went through that.

However, you have made some frankly ridiculous and sweeping statements about the CS that are quite frankly insulting. Your experiences are not the sweeping experiences of the CS as a whole, and your insults to some of the most talented people I have ever met are really and truly unfounded.

To be honest, your attitude would be really jarring to be with on a team. Not justifying your experiences but you really shouldn't be making these sweeping negative statements in a place where many are very excited to get this role.

mcg_philip · 24-04-2023 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120516194#Comment_120516194

Yes, I'm the same. Would be grateful for any updates you hear over the course of the next few weeks.

elfie123 · 25-04-2023 10:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120516194#Comment_120516194

same here! Early 300’s too, hoping we get called ! Anybody have any tips for the presentation ?

the5th · 25-04-2023 4:41pm

Does anhyone have the information booklet for this comp saved that they could share? Thanks

minersrepite · 25-04-2023 4:58pm

Hi All. Update for anyone interested. All of batch 2 have been called for clearance and they are apparently starting to call batch 3 ‘shortly’. God speed to all involved.

OKDublin · 25-04-2023 4:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120516194#Comment_120516194

Me too.

madbeanman · 25-04-2023 6:01pm

Batch 3, have been called for clearance.

karenob1 · 28-04-2023 5:12pm

Make sure you get employment status from you job that says what grade and salary you are on .And make sure you get a job description and job roll so they can see that it is angolous. Don't wait for them to ask get it all before hand cause you will be waiting from the public service hr to do it.then you are waiting for the civil service to see if you are angolous.